Ccfcisparks
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Welbeck and Dunk would be good, but both have had good years and I'd imagine they will be retained by Brighton
Statement signings if we go up? (8 Viewers)
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Jesse Carver
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My worry is it could be a similar situation to when Leeds went up with Ben White on loan from Brighton. They thought they would keep him upon promotion but Brighton ended up keeping him for a year before selling him to Arsenal for a much higher fee.
Diehard Si
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Best time to sell them, they could get a few ££ for them knowing they've seen the best of them.
SleepyGinger
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Yeah and we can’t afford to wait for a decision all summer. Brighton will be very aware of how well he is performing, can’t say I’ve paid much attention to Verbruggen but it would be very Brighton to sell him for a decent fee and promote Rushworth.
Ipad Boro
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Though the change of league was a Hoodoo canceller for the one we had over Brentford.
Would I hell bank on that though!
Ipad Boro
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We got a 1-1 draw with them at our place and had twice as many shots on target, so their low block wasn't as efficient as Charlton's, or Oxford's for that matter.
As for at theirs, they're open so we'd have a good chance of a win there. Providing Hellberg started with a back 5
and used wing backs for width, I'd be confident.I'd fully expect Hackney to go if we weren't promoted and he'd go with our gratitude and thanks for the memories as he's a passionate local lad who was a ballboy when we last went up and has been at Boro since he was eight. That would at least leave us an estimated 25M in the coffers and we'd probably look to reinvest it, looking to spend around 10M on his replacement and 12-15M on a striker who knows where the net is.
If we manage to get someone at the level of Vipotnik at the Swans for under 15M, you would think he would score an absolute torrent of goals with the sheer volume of chances and shots we get compared to Swansea. If that gives us an extra 10 - 15 points over the season in the multitude of games where we can't buy a goal for love nor money, you'd have to imagine we'd be joining you up there in another 12 months time.
Plus you wouldn't be in the champo either, so that's another potential 6 points even on top of that!
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Ccfcisparks
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If we were to go up and you lot not. How much do you think Hackney would cost us? £25m?We got a 1-1 draw with them at our place and had twice as many shots on target, so their low block wasn't as efficient as Charlton's, or Oxford's for that matter.
As for at theirs, they're open so we'd have a good chance of a win there. Providing Hellberg started with a back 5
Ipad Boro
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That's a decent estimate.
Hopefully we'd chuck 10M of it on his replacement and 15M on a Vipotnik. With the volume of shots we create compared to Swamsea, you'd have to imagine we'd be raining goals in.
All those games where we're getting 20-35 shots in and only recording a single goal at best or nothing at all would be turned into a fair few hammerings, add 10-15 points to our end of season total. Plus up to 6 points extra for you not being in the champo, you'd have to fancy us to be joining you in 12 months.
Ccfcisparks
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Not sure on that. If you dont go up this year be difficult next year.That's a decent estimate.
Hopefully we'd chuck 10M of it on his replacement and 15M on a Vipotnik. With the volume of shots we create compared to Swamsea, you'd have to imagine we'd be raining goals in.
All those games where we're getting 20-35 shots in and only recording a single goal at best or nothing at all would be turned into a fair few hammerings, add 10-15 points to our end of season total. Plus up to 6 points extra for you not being in the champo, you'd have to fancy us to be joining you in 12 months.
Southampton, Wrexham, Blues, Wolves, Burnley, Forest/West Ham. Youd do well for a top 6 place.
Ipad Boro
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You say that, but look at the amount of goals Vipotnik gets in relation to Swansea's chance creation. We as a rough estimate get twice as many chances created and shots away as they do?
It's not an exact science granted, but that would have him on 34 goals for us at this point, with a good chance of hitting the 40 mark come season end?
It would be like having another prime Mitrovic in our ranks, added to all the stuff that we do do right?
One of those 6 may well even go up, there's always one that comes down and underperforms. Plus Saints and Blues are further from the finished article than we are now and any players they get in would likely take time to get used to the league etc. Chuck one of the championships biggest returns strikers into our side now amd we'd outgun Brum.
If we get an estimated 84-85 points this year and don't go up. chuck all the points extra from 20 more goals, plus the up to 6 from you not being here?
We could well be another Leeds from last season.
And I can't for the life of me see 3 sides getting around the 100 point mark.
Don't get me wrong, of course I want to go up and I'd love HH to be with us, he loves the club, is one of our own and has been here for 15 years. But in a way it would be like a parting gift from him for us to become as close to the "perfect" championship side as possible. Take our goals conceded from this campaign, add another 20 goals our goals scored and there's only one place we'd be going. I'd be pretty hopeful anyway.
Ccfcisparks
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That is a very simplistic view of it IMO.
Ipad Boro
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Of course, football isn't an exact science, we all know that.
But what do think we'd have been like this season with a prime Miitrovic up top to bury anything that came this way? Which there'd have been a lot of.
Ccfcisparks
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why stop at Mitrovic, go for Haaland or R9!
lord_garrincha
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The old 'look at the scorer table & spunk a load of cash on who is top'!
Jordan Rhodes... Ross McCormack... Chopra!!!
Jordan Rhodes... Ross McCormack... Chopra!!!
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Everyone's entitled their opinion but I can see why you've been in Exile for 12 years.
TomRad85
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Chuba Akpom! Absolute cart horse.
Jamesimus
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I really hope this isn’t Dean Austin’s login on here.
Ipad Boro
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Like they'd come to the champo for 15M
But Vipotnik would. And we'd create twice as many chances to score for him as Swamsea would, ergo turning him into a Mitrovic.
Ccfcisparks
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so say you finish on 84 you think if you had Vipotnik you’d have finished on 104Like they'd come to the champo for 15M
But Vipotnik would. And we'd create twice as many chances to score for him as Swamsea would, ergo turning him into a Mitrovic.
Vipotnik is running incredibly hot. Screams of a player who reverts to the mean next season after Boro/a parachute payment team splash 15m on him
34 shots but xG of 1.81 suggests you're not very good at creating good chances against low-blocks & take too many pot-shots. A striker doesn't even solve that
34 shots but xG of 1.81 suggests you're not very good at creating good chances against low-blocks & take too many pot-shots. A striker doesn't even solve that
Ccfcisparks
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Wrong! They’d make him have a 45 goal mitrovic season
Jamesimus
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This is to do with how they play. Struggle to create really good quality / clear cut chances but create a lot of lesser quality ones. Perhaps having a focal point will mean they are less likely to shoot from distance etc?
Personally I think it’s more about how their midfield play stylistically. I think they need a different profile of midfielder alongside Hackney.
TomRad85
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I would absolutely have to see another season of this kind of form from Vipotnik to trust it.
skybluecam
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Just had a brainwave, we’ll give you Ellis Simms for £10m. One of the most efficient strikers in the division.Like they'd come to the champo for 15M
But Vipotnik would. And we'd create twice as many chances to score for him as Swamsea would, ergo turning him into a Mitrovic.
Winny the Bish
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Mykolenko on a free would be a great signing.
Proper statement of intent would be getting a wonderkid like Caleb Yirenkyi. A highly rated youngster who’s probably the best player in his league and would cost like £25m max. And he follows “the model”.
Maybe try for a high profile loan from City or Arsenal. Lewis-Skelly, Nwaneri, Echeverri etc.
Proper statement of intent would be getting a wonderkid like Caleb Yirenkyi. A highly rated youngster who’s probably the best player in his league and would cost like £25m max. And he follows “the model”.
Maybe try for a high profile loan from City or Arsenal. Lewis-Skelly, Nwaneri, Echeverri etc.
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oneofourown
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Please forgive me if i am wrong but when we are promoted, not if anymore, when, we possibly have the most English coaching team in the Premiership and they have experience of working with young players. I know FL has public said he like coaching and I believe the route we will go down is bring in players that are from the top 10 clubs and coming to the end of their contracts or are being let go, players like Esse. Of course he will bring in a few older heads but I believe we can tap into the younger players.
Ccfcisparks
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Id imagine we will sign Eric Martel
Sky Blue Goblin
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This lad
TomRad85
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Was that a @Saddlebrains leak?
Winny the Bish
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Forgot about this guy. Gimme gimme gimme.
