It publishes what people say in parliament. So…..
Starmer lost control of borders (9 Viewers)
- Thread starter MalcSB
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So you agree with everything said by Keir Starmer as long as its recorded in Hansard?
That's quite a turn up for the books.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Surely more of a hope than expectation.
Given that their entire campaign and manifesto basically said 'more of the same Tory thinking' I don't see why you had an expectation of change.
Sure, them coming in and saying "there's no money" and continuing along austerity lines was disappointing, but given the manifesto not a huge shock.
fernandopartridge
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Hansard publishes a record of what was said on the day. Given who said it, that probably would incude "any old shit". I have provided you with the original source of her information and shown that she has deliberately misrepresented it.
ms639
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Starmer has ‘lost control of borders’ after record small-boat crossings
Over 650 migrants reach UK via Channel on Saturday, taking this year’s total to more than 8,000www.telegraph.co.uk
Why let facts get in the way of a bullshit telegraph headline hey Malc
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Grendel
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It is factually accurate that this year is likely to see record crossings.
It’s also the case Starmer himself pledged this was an issue and he would “smash the gangs and stop the boats”
MalcSB
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Nope.
Losing control of the borders is the number of people arriving, not the cost consequence of them arriving
i didn’t say I agreed with any of Starmer’s utterances published in Hansard. I’m suggesting it may be a more reliable and impartial information source than, say, Geebeebies. Other than for reporting the time, obviously.
I had offered it up as a potential source for an approximation of cost of immigration from a source drawing parallels between cost of supporting indigenous citizens who will have paid UK tax and others who probably haven’t.
In the absence of a list of services the latter group are ineligible for, it seems a reasonable starting point. To which needs to be added the housing costs.
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MalcSB
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The detail is all false? On what basis can you be so sure?
Must be weird living in a world where you believe nothing but the Labour Party and others like yourself.
MalcSB
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Britain's booming housing markets: 10 areas where sales have spiked
Areas in Manchester and West Yorkshire have seen agreed property sales jump by more than 80% thanks to their 'affordability and value'.
Is something stirring?
Of course, it will be viewed as bullshit. Too much to ask for any green shoots of recovery after 10 months of a Labour government who have a programme of change.
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skybluetony176
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Ahh okay. So if that’s your metric the trend under Labour (although there’s yet to be a full year with Labour in government) is down. Considerably. So based on that shouldn’t the thread title be Conservatives lost control of borders.
Gynnsthetonic
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This guy cracks me up, but he does have a point!
Your source isn't Hansard, your source is Andrea Jenkyns. How are you so bad at this?
fernandopartridge
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The problem we've got in the UK is viewing rising property prices as evidence of a healthy economy, despite the damage it has already causedBritain's booming housing markets: 10 areas where sales have spiked
Areas in Manchester and West Yorkshire have seen agreed property sales jump by more than 80% thanks to their 'affordability and value'.www.thisismoney.co.uk
Is something stirring?
Of course, it will be viewed as bullshit. Too much to ask for any green shoots of recovery after 10 months of a Labour government who have a programme of change.
mmttww
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It is sickens me when I see episodes of home's under the hammer with it's sexed up presentation style!
