Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were saying lets pretend it's real for a minute (I realised you don't belive it is) what things do we actually care about them putting in the stadium. Which is a reasonable tact to take
My point was more, where's the boundary cases where we can complain without it being shut down as out of the remit of the forum?
I don't believe it'll be built. I don't believe we have any say in anything more than a small sanitised "fans zone" concourse with a few pictures.
However that doesn't mean we should just ignore it. We tried that when they threatened to leave the Ricoh and they called everyone's bluff.
Tonight is another chance to chip away at some info. It may be nothing comes but the same could've been said about numerous meetings with fans and it's almost always been wrong.
I'd like to see something constructive those who are going can use rather than "don't bother" or "it should be in Cov".
Well if last Sunday is anything to go by, then SISU may have a long wait. Not sure what was on ,but both Car Park A and B were virtually full, and Car Park C had the circus top, although that Car Park was mostly empty. Don't go past the Ricoh that often, but generally it always seems reasonably busy. As far as I'm aware the £14m loan is being repaid on time, and ACL have always filed their accounts on time.The council will fold by the time we actually have to think about building a new ground-yes the land can be bought, designers can be brought in, but bricks will only start to be laid when Sepalla runs out of patience or is convinced that the council have replaced the lost business. The e-mail sent to Torch said that opinions could be fed back to architects yet designs have already been released-the club is doing this off the back of a fag packet.
CCC cannot hold out for too long with no business and £14m standing unpaid by ACL. Joy has both time and gullible investors in abundance to see this out-the council don't.
Well if last Sunday is anything to go by, then SISU may have a long wait. Not sure what was on ,but both Car Park A and B were virtually full, and Car Park C had the circus top, although that Car Park was mostly empty. Don't go past the Ricoh that often, but generally it always seems reasonably busy. As far as I'm aware the £14m loan is being repaid on time, and ACL have always filed their accounts on time.
Just catching up on everything.
What a fecking joke this is
Just dividing support even more, ST holders will go regardless that's been proven at shitfield, the people they should talk to are those ho do not go.
If ACL really can turn a profit without needing to have the stadium in use, then surely there is a deal to be done that allows for use of the stadium and access to all F+B & other revenues? i.e. splitting the Ricoh into stadium and arena. I mean the car park is not making money if not in use, and the F&B company is not making money without bums on seats...
Now I know the club is spouting about wanting to have access to non matchday revenues, but surely if the price was right it could potentially suit both parties....
Of course ACL and CCFC won't work together, and I am skeptical about just how tight things are without the club playing there - just sayin.
ACL have been making offers, they appear to be very open to a fair deal, probably less open to deals where their future profits are effectively gifted away.
I believe ACL are happy to work with the club, to me the problems always come from the clubs current owners.
ACL have been making offers, they appear to be very open to a fair deal, probably less open to deals where their future profits are effectively gifted away.
I believe ACL are happy to work with the club, to me the problems always come from the clubs current owners.
The club has stated time and again that they need access to all the revenue streams... whether or not I truly believe this or not is another issue but as soon as ACL make an offer that includes access to all the revenue streams then the club will have no option but to get round the table, or they will be caught out in another lie.
I realise that ACL has sold the F&B to Compass for £4m but they should renegotiate their 4m contract to not include revenue from football to allow that to be part of any rental deal.
Alternatively a good chunk of that 4m plus ACLs share of the match day F&B profits should be offered to the club. Bottom line Compass doesn't make any stadium related profits without fans in the ground. The club brings the possibility of the F&B revenue and car park profits to the stadium but gets nothing but a 1.3m rent bill in return? They were getting screwed and I think we all accept that, but the problem is the burnt bridges CVA rejection etc ... There is a deal to be done here if all the bad feelings could just be put aside... I need to stop now it is making me angry!
The club has stated time and again that they need access to all the revenue streams... whether or not I truly believe this or not is another issue but as soon as ACL make an offer that includes access to all the revenue streams then the club will have no option but to get round the table, or they will be caught out in another lie.
I realise that ACL has sold the F&B to Compass for £4m but they should renegotiate their 4m contract to not include revenue from football to allow that to be part of any rental deal.
Alternatively a good chunk of that 4m plus ACLs share of the match day F&B profits should be offered to the club. Bottom line Compass doesn't make any stadium related profits without fans in the ground. The club brings the possibility of the F&B revenue and car park profits to the stadium but gets nothing but a 1.3m rent bill in return? They were getting screwed and I think we all accept that, but the problem is the burnt bridges CVA rejection etc ... There is a deal to be done here if all the bad feelings could just be put aside... I need to stop now it is making me angry!
The club has stated time and again that they need access to all the revenue streams... whether or not I truly believe this or not is another issue but as soon as ACL make an offer that includes access to all the revenue streams then the club will have no option but to get round the table, or they will be caught out in another lie.
Why should a company who doesn't need to sell something valuable go around making ever smaller offers to sell that very thing. If the club needs the access, they need to come up with a tempting offer.
I'd like access to revenue streams from all my competitors customers but they are not just going to hand them over for nothing are they !!
she'll be ok the car parks very big at the venue. They never say anything else apart from comments about parking.not sure I would want to be chairing tonights meeting even if it is with ST holders at Sixfields (who might be less vehement?)............. I do not envy her one bit
Quite right, it shouldn't be down to ACL to chase SISU to make them buy the share back. We had a right to buy back 50% of ACL (and I belive that deal included CCFC getting all matchday revenues), it was believed to be a cost of around £10m. SISU put in a much lower offer to Higgs which was accepted and then SISU never followed through with the sale!
I'm not sure what people expect CCC / Higgs / ACL to do? They've made offer after offer to SISU all dismissed out of hand.
not sure I would want to be chairing tonights meeting even if it is with ST holders at Sixfields (who might be less vehement?)............. I do not envy her one bit
All good points. With the benefit of hindsight... the club has probably already lost more or close to what they could have paid to Higgs for half of ACL. I guess that is more depressing than anything else - this entire situation need not have happened but for the stupidity of some suits...
All good points. With the benefit of hindsight... the club has probably already lost more or close to what they could have paid to Higgs for half of ACL. I guess that is more depressing than anything else - this entire situation need not have happened but for the stupidity of some suits...
That's the frustrating thing.
I don't think any fan thought the rent was fair any more or that we didn't need to gain access to match day revenues.
The tide turned when it became clear it wasn't about the rent or the revenues.
Were we sitting here discussing how Sisu had negotiated the price down to what was agreed previously and bought ACL, I think public opinion (and the clubs finances) would be very different.
not sure I would want to be chairing tonights meeting even if it is with ST holders at Sixfields (who might be less vehement?)............. I do not envy her one bit
And I now can't see another forum for the non season ticket holders.
I'm sure you're just reading too much into the fact that absolutly no details have been released about the meeting for non season ticket holders!!
They will be without doubt how angry our STH's are about the lies. Would they be happy to do the same with people that won't follow them to Northampton?
We want our stadium IN Coventry, not in the Coventry area. Anything shirt if that is another SISU failing.
Secondly, it's despicable that this forum is only open to the SISU apologists that have compromised their principles for 90 minutes of football every other Sunday.
How the hell are you going to get the broad opinion from City fans if you only invite the 'yes' men?
Well here is the opinion of a long standing Coventry fan who won't be getting a season ticket, won't be joining you at sixfields or any other 'home' ground OUTSIDE Coventry.
You can shove your new stadium.
Season ticket holders get certain privileges and types or priority at every football club don't they? Given there's one for non season ticket holders towards the end of the month I see no problem with it.
I'm sure you're just reading too much into the fact that absolutly no details have been released about the meeting for non season ticket holders!!
The forum, chaired by city businesswoman and lifelong City fan Sandra Garlick, will hold an open meeting on Monday, January 20 at the Village Hotel in Coventry.
I wish I could share your confidence. However I expect she will simply refuse to talk about the location, claiming it isn't in her remit. They will spin this out ad infinitum, to be fair they can hardly admit the truth can they.This could be a very interesting meeting! Surely SISU are going to have to try and put some sort of statement out before this meeting given what's been revealed in the last couple of days.
How long can they keep the pretence up. They need to either get on with the new stadium or come clean and say there is no new stadium.
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