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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #491
Several top flight clubs in Europe share the same stadium. How would we feel about sharing a new stadium with Birmingham at say the NEC ?
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #492
You can read all the statements and it is all smoke and mirrors. The bottom line is SISU and the Wasps owners deserve each others. The losers are the fans; neither care about the fans along with CCC.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #493
Timperley said:
From Manchester or Stockport.
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Is it? Never seen tickets that cheap
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #494
fernandopartridge said:
Is it? Never seen tickets that cheap
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Yeah, thought that seemed really cheap.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #495
Hobo said:
You can read all the statements and it is all smoke and mirrors. The bottom line is SISU and the Wasps owners deserve each others. The losers are the fans; neither care about the fans along with CCC.
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Yup.

It's not right, that's the end of it.
 
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Spud mm

Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #496
The situation is mad. It doesn’t make sense. Now I might be naive but think about it. It’s in Sisu’s interest to make as much money as possible from the club. We were promoted last season and just missed out this season. I just don’t get, never have understood the council. Why on earth sell your home ground to a London rugby club. Utter madness. Sisu have made massive mistakes, but for gods sakes our council and wasps are a disgrace.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #497
Otis said:
I would just appeal to everyone who says they won't go to at least now wait and see what the club offer in terms of ST and ticket prices before making a final decision.

I don't think I will be going, but am happy to wait to see what concessions the club offer first before coming to a final conclusion.
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Come on Otis. We'll take you to one game as a 'special guest' Didn't you attend one of the l&wcccfc meetings (somebody told me afterwards, and I was gutted I hadn't been able to say hi)
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #498
Spud mm said:
The situation is mad. It doesn’t make sense. Now I might be naive but think about it. It’s in Sisu’s interest to make as much money as possible from the club. We were promoted last season and just missed out this season. I just don’t get, never have understood the council. Why on earth sell your home ground to a London rugby club. Utter madness. Sisu have made massive mistakes, but for gods sakes our council and wasps are a disgrace.
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SISU take £x out of the club regardless (in terms of balance sheet). Drop in income = drop in ££££s available to CCFC. Extra income = extra for CCFC. SISU have tried to make us self sustaining, which is a good thing (about the only good thing they have done)
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #499
Spud mm said:
The situation is mad. It doesn’t make sense. Now I might be naive but think about it. It’s in Sisu’s interest to make as much money as possible from the club. We were promoted last season and just missed out this season. I just don’t get, never have understood the council. Why on earth sell your home ground to a London rugby club. Utter madness. Sisu have made massive mistakes, but for gods sakes our council and wasps are a disgrace.
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I think when it came down to it one hedge fund threatened to have them all in court........and the other slimy shits slithered in charming them with a way to be able to stick two fingers up to the aggressive crowd. Result CCFC fucked over and even worse. ..still owned by that bitch of all bitches Seppala !
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #500
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Come on Otis. We'll take you to one game as a 'special guest' Didn't you attend one of the l&wcccfc meetings (somebody told me afterwards, and I was gutted I hadn't been able to say hi)
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I think I would go to the odd game. Just no ST.

Let's see what the club say though and what the price structure is first.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #501
Otis said:
I think I would go to the odd game. Just no ST.
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The 21 of us could hold a reunion!
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #502
Deleted member 5849 said:
The 21 of us could hold a reunion!
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20 because Grendel would surely not turn up again.

In fact, last time I think he sent his butler anyway.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #503
Otis said:
20 because Grendel would surely not turn up again.

In fact, last time I think he sent his butler anyway.
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None of us are real anyway.

Tell you what, there's a danger the Jasper Carrott gag about turning to the fan next to him in St Andrews and shouting OI may just come true if we're not careful.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #504
Sky Blue Harry H said:
just realised that all the car park places will take a hit in terms of lost revenue near the Ricoh. Pubs and local businesses will take huge hits.
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If only there was some sort of organisation whose job it was to represent the city and its residents and ensure things like that didn't happen.
 
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skybluegod

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #505
Efl have said that there has been a 1 million bond provided by the club to ensure we return to the city. As well as legal guarantees it can't be permanent
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #506
Deleted member 5849 said:
None of us are real anyway.

Tell you what, there's a danger the Jasper Carrott gag about turning to the fan next to him in St Andrews and shouting OI may just come true if we're not careful.
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Ha. Yes.
 

Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #507
fernandopartridge said:
Is it? Never seen tickets that cheap
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£40 for open return.
 

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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #508
chiefdave said:
If only there was some sort of organisation whose job it was to represent the city and its residents and ensure things like that didn't happen.
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The PSB?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #509
skybluegod said:
Efl have said that there has been a 1 million bond provided by the club to ensure we return to the city. As well as legal guarantees it can't be permanent
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Has it been paid or is it the same as last time where it was payable if we didn't return which was of no use whatsoever.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #510
skybluegod said:
Efl have said that there has been a 1 million bond provided by the club to ensure we return to the city. As well as legal guarantees it can't be permanent
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But it will be at least 5 years for a new stadium,if ever at all.

Then what? The EFL cannot force Wasps to take us back.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #511
Voice_of_Reason said:
Several top flight clubs in Europe share the same stadium. How would we feel about sharing a new stadium with Birmingham at say the NEC ?
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If they had built a new stadium for the commonwealth games there I could have easily seen that happening. its only slightly over the mileage allowed by the EFL so bound to have been allowed.

However the stadium is going to be in Brum so thats the end of that.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #512
Not read the 15 pages but if this is true count me out.
SISU Out.
 

skybluegod

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #513
Otis said:
But it will be at least 5 years for a new stadium,if ever at all.

Then what? The EFL cannot force Wasps to take us back.
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chiefdave said:
Has it been paid or is it the same as last time where it was payable if we didn't return which was of no use whatsoever.
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EFL statement: Coventry City

No idea... I read it as it's been paid... But who knows...
 

fellatio_Martinez

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #514
Hobo said:
Yes great when it is free. Why didnt he go to Coventry Rugby? A club with a great history and older than Coventry City.
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Free tickets and he liked the fan village. He's one of these people that suddenly became a rugby fan over night.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #515
fellatio_Martinez said:
Free tickets and he liked the fan village. He's one of these people that suddenly became a rugby fan over night.
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Bad habits can still be trained out of him
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #516
Timperley said:
£40 for open return.
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24 quid is decent enough, more frequent direct trains from Brum as well
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #517
chiefdave said:
If only there was some sort of organisation whose job it was to represent the city and its residents and ensure things like that didn't happen.
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Its profit v fans v ordinary people.
 

fellatio_Martinez

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #518
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bad habits can still be trained out of him
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I have considered knee capping him but my gun is on the blink again.
 

skybluebeast

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #519
jordan210 said:
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These nobs don’t represent me or my opinions so they can crawl into the same cave that the Wasps came out of.
 

davebart

Active Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #520
I haven't read the entire thread but I haven't seen anyone mention that even if Wasps do go bust they don't have to sell the ground to SISU. They will make far more selling it for housing like at Highfield Road.
And of course even if SISU did prove the council were wrong to sell to Wasps it doesn't mean they will be entitled to compensation. State Aid affects everyone not just the owners of a football club.
I can't see a scenario where the Sky Blues own their own ground unless they build it for themselves, and that will never happen under SISU. They are not in the business of building things.
 
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Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #521
What's the point of all the anger, blame and recriminations?
If we had to move out of the city, Birmingham is the best possible place.
Only 20 miles away, easy to reach by car, bus or train.
Probably superior pitch (although smaller) and facilities.
Transport
The nearest railway station to the stadium is Bordesley, on the Birmingham to Stratford Line between Moor Street and Small Heath stations, which has regular services only on match days. The stadium is a 20-minute walk from New Street station, which is served by direct trains from most parts of the country, and slightly less far from Moor Street, which is served by Chiltern Railways trains from London Marylebone. Birmingham Coach Station, served by National Express coaches, is a 15-minute walk away, and buses run from the city centre past the ground. There is very limited parking at the stadium itself, but a secure outdoor car park is available at Birmingham Wheels Park, less than 15 minutes walk away, and parking is permitted in the streets surrounding the ground.[54][2]
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #522
davebart said:
I haven't read the entire thread but I haven't seen anyone mention that even if Wasps do go bust they don't have to sell the ground to SISU. They will make far more selling it for housing like at Highfield Road.
And of course even if SISU did prove the council were wrong to sell to Wasps it doesn't mean they will be entitled to compensation. State Aid affects everyone not just the owners of a football club.
I can't see a scenario where the Sky Blues own their own ground unless they build it for themselves, and that will never happen under SISU. They are not in the business of building things.
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Absolutely. Some supporters seem to think that SISU did the right thing in pursuing the EU option, that somehow if SISU are proven to be correct then all our troubles are over. Naïve unfortunately.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #523
Ashdown said:
Quite Otis and the impact on local business around CV6 and further afield is awful. There are plenty of clowns here talking up St Andrews but the reality is despite the blame game it's Cov people's jobs that will be affected and Cov business losing revenue.
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I suggested this should have been the approach a few weeks back. We needed to get people who don't give a flying about CCFC onside and to do that show how much we bring to the community. Speak to the casino, pizza hut, pub landlords, chip shop owners etc and get them to estimate the loss of earnings and loss of jobs in the event of a groundshare. Splash the findings all over. You then have an angle of attack against Council/SISU/Wasps.
Shame the Trust would rather just shout SISU out.
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #524
Otis said:
I wonder if anew club now night be formed. Cov United always said they didn't see themselves as a phoenix club.

Just very concerned that some bright spark might now start a new CCFC AFC.

I have always said if the City went bust I would consider following a new club, but not while Coventry City FC still exist.

I sincerely hope it doesn't happen, but have a feeling it might.
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Maybe they could be called "West Midlands Wanderers".
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 7, 2019
  • #525
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Absolutely. Some supporters seem to think that SISU did the right thing in pursuing the EU option, that somehow if SISU are proven to be correct then all our troubles are over. Naïve unfortunately.
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What ever happens to the football club and the EU it stlll seems likely we are stuck with this ruinous Council !
 
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