Er NoYou’re just gutted it wasn’t one of the small boat people. I bet you are seething about that
I could get behind this more if there weren't 2 of them.Sometimes spree killers are just random, there's no real reason behind the actions of a lot of killers. Sometimes people are just bad.
There's a lot of good studies on these mostly by fbi profilers
Killers do work in pairs, it's actually quite common.I could get behind this more if there weren't 2 of them.
Killers yes, eg Fred and Rose types, but this random spree seems unusual, certainly in the UK.Killers do work in pairs, it's actually quite common.
you dont wanna listen to the victims familys at all do youIts shocking just how many terrorist sympathisers we have on this platform!
Let's just put it all down to mental health problems and carry on letting people get brutally murdered because of it! If only Mind Charity had been watching Rudibicana instead of MI5 it would never of happened!
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Where was i wrong? I suggested they were "probably" middle Eastern. Yes, in that I was wrong. Where else was I wrong? People jump to the defence of murderers all too quickly to deny them as terrorists (were people on that train last night terrified for their lives?)Oh fuck right off old man.
People have nicely explained the situation and where you are wrong and you start with personal attacks.
Who has said they can't be terrorists if they are those things? The 7/11 killers were terrorists and so was the killer of Lee Rigby. Also why do you keep bringing up Lee Rigby to justify things that his family have begged people to not bring him up for?Where was i wrong? I suggested they were "probably" middle Eastern. Yes, in that I was wrong. Where else was I wrong? People jump to the defence of murderers all too quickly to deny them as terrorists (were people on that train last night terrified for their lives?)
Using every trick up their sleeve. They cant be terrorist because they're:
•British born - so have MANY others before them been.
•Christian - so were Lee Rigbys killers.
•Caribbean - as was one of the 7/7 attackers.
•Theyre a good member of society/a choir boy and harmless - like Rudibicana.
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does happen though, I mentioned the Starkweather Homicides and there were Harris and Klebold at Columbine amongst other examples.Killers yes, eg Fred and Rose types, but this random spree seems unusual, certainly in the UK.
I think the issue Rob is that it is terror if it furthers a religious or political cause etcWhat I'm failing to understand is if it wasn't terror, then what the hell was it? Can't really be mental health as two perpetrators not one, so must have been planned and it was random not targeted, so I can't see any clear reason. Really confusing.
It isn't a terrorist attack because it doesn't meet the definition for it, not because of whatever identities the attackers had.Where was i wrong? I suggested they were "probably" middle Eastern. Yes, in that I was wrong. Where else was I wrong? People jump to the defence of murderers all too quickly to deny them as terrorists (were people on that train last night terrified for their lives?)
Using every trick up their sleeve. They cant be terrorist because they're:
•British born - so have MANY others before them been.
•Christian - so were Lee Rigbys killers.
•Caribbean - as was one of the 7/7 attackers.
•Theyre a good member of society/a choir boy and harmless - like Rudibicana.
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Must be first UK though ever if that's the case? Certainly I've never heard of any before.does happen though, I mentioned the Starkweather Homicides and there were Harris and Klebold at Columbine amongst other examples.
Yes most killer duos go down the serial killer "route" spree killer/mass murderer duos are not unheard of.
Realise that Pete and I quoted the terror definition for others further down, but my question was if it's not terror then what was it? Makes it even more strange and inexplicable.I think the issue Rob is that it is terror if it furthers a religious or political cause etc
The danger of referring to all things terrible as terror related is you can’t keep your eye on it all and if you are focused on something here and there is a greater risk there it’s a big issue
They weren't spree killers but obviously Fred/Rose West, the Moors murderers are two notorious examples which come to mind.Must be first UK though ever if that's the case? Certainly I've never heard of any before.
Ive already mentioned those types above, completely different MO though.They weren't spree killers but obviously Fred/Rose West, the Moors murderers are two notorious examples which come to mind.
Read the room, numerous people are claiming they cant be terrorists because of the said things mentioned!Who has said they can't be terrorists if they are those things? The 7/11 killers were terrorists and so was the killer of Lee Rigby. Also why do you keep bringing up Lee Rigby to justify things that his family have begged people to not bring him up for?
All people have explained is that while yes the Southport killer downloads a AQ training manual it was not because he was into jihad. It was just a book he read about killing people.
I saw and it was really helpful to put it there in black and white (irony intended).Realise that Pete and I quoted the terror definition for others further down, but my question was if it's not terror then what was it? Makes it even more strange and inexplicable.
Ah I see. I remember about 15 years ago a taxi driver went and shot a lot of people in one day in the Lake District, then did himself.Ive already mentioned those types above, completely different MO though.
I thought that was the one who shot taxi drivers and blinded that policeman not a taxi driver? Could be wrong of course. Also again on his own. We've certainly had UK spree killers but usually on their own.Ah I see. I remember about 15 years ago a taxi driver went and shot a lot of people in one day in the Lake District, then did himself.
Yes Moat was a different case, this one killed over a dozen people and it was a mix of people he knew and others he shot randomly. You asked how yesterday's crime gets classified if it isn't a terror attack, it's an attempted killing spree.I thought that was the one who shot taxi drivers and blinded that policeman not a taxi driver? Could be wrong of course. Also again on his own. We've certainly had UK spree killers but usually on their own.
Edit, think im confusing him with Moat
fairI could get behind this more if there weren't 2 of them.
Care to elaborate?The fatigue with this country is real
People have had fucking enough. You can't walk the dog, go to the bank, jump on a train without being stabbed to death by fucking fanaticsCare to elaborate?
‘Fatigue’ was an interesting choice of phrase - I’m sure the poster involved would be horrified to hear of the racist connotations attached to that word in regards to black people recently, obviously a coincidence of course.People have had fucking enough. You can't walk the dog, go to the bank, jump on a train without being stabbed to death by fucking fanatics
it’s so obvious and totally totally disgusting‘Fatigue’ was an interesting choice of phrase - I’m sure the poster involved would be horrified to hear of the racist connotations attached to that word in regards to black people recently, obviously a coincidence of course.
Your literally putting words into people's mouths. By fatigue I'm sure he's tired and fed up of it all like the majority‘Fatigue’ was an interesting choice of phrase - I’m sure the poster involved would be horrified to hear of the racist connotations attached to that word in regards to black people recently, obviously a coincidence of course.
Is it?it’s so obvious and totally totally disgusting
Yes a total coincidence like I said!Your literally putting words into people's mouths. By fatigue I'm sure he's tired and fed up of it all like the majority
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