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  • Start date Jul 29, 2024
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pusbccfc

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 AM
  • #4,236
Ccfcisparks said:
Well this is what I'm saying. How do you fix it? Scanners before getting on a train?

What I'm saying though is this idea that we were a lovely civilised society before this argument around immigration really flared up though is nonsense.
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You can't really.

Even if you took a zero tolerance approach, people would still commit these crimes.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #4,237
Marty said:
It wasn't perfect but it was far nicer.
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Was it?
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #4,238
Marty said:
I'd suggest you're too young to have a clue.
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Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #4,239
Sick Boy said:
When was this?
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It was much nicer when Raoul Moat was running round the country and everyone was worried he was gonna pop up in there town.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:34 AM
  • #4,240
Ccfcisparks said:
Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.
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Probably a load of bores like yourself. Stick to your shit wind up routine.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 10:35 AM
  • #4,241
Ccfcisparks said:
Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.
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20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 AM
  • #4,242
Marty said:
Probably a load of bores like yourself. Stick to your shit wind up routine.
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And thats where your argument ends. total drip.
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 10:36 AM
  • #4,243
Ccfcisparks said:
And thats where your argument ends. total drip.
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Bit rich coming from you.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:36 AM
  • #4,244
Sick Boy said:
20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.
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and those in Windrush before that.

Its just cyclical and repeats itself generation after generation.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:36 AM
  • #4,245
Marty said:
Bit rich coming from you.
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another zinger

get your reaction score up
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:46 AM
  • #4,246
Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 AM
  • #4,247
Ccfcisparks said:
It was much nicer when Raoul Moat was running round the country and everyone was worried he was gonna pop up in there town.
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Nice to have a catchup with Gazza
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:58 AM
  • #4,248
Some good news:

Of the nine people believed to have life-threatening injuries, four have been discharged, police say in an update - two remain in a life-threatening condition


Hopefully those two are able to make it through.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:59 AM
  • #4,249
PVA said:
Some good news:

Of the nine people believed to have life-threatening injuries, four have been discharged, police say in an update - two remain in a life-threatening condition


Hopefully those two are able to make it through.
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so was it just the 9 affected, or have any died
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:09 AM
  • #4,250
xcraigx said:
Hungerford, Michael Ryan.

For Sky Blue Pete. Quote function didn't work again.
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So not Huntingdon at all thanks awful of course
Not sure it matters where or who but it clearly does to Nigel and his supporters
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:11 AM
  • #4,251
Sick Boy said:
20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.
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Yep
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:12 AM
  • #4,252
Sick Boy said:
20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.
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That’s right
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:12 AM
  • #4,253
pusbccfc said:
Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.
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Wankers
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 11:13 AM
  • #4,254
Sky Blue Pete said:
So not Huntingdon at all thanks awful of course
Not sure it matters where or who but it clearly does to Nigel and his supporters
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Does it? It happened on a train it wasn’t even going to Huntingdon
 

David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 11:14 AM
  • #4,255
Marty said:
I'd suggest you're too young to have a clue.
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There's some good books on criminality in the UK and how violent society has always been. So how far are you going back as you can trace this all the way back to the 19th and maybe 18th centuries.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 11:17 AM
  • #4,256
pusbccfc said:
People have been stabbing people for decades.

Let's not forget, hooligans used to go round using weapons.

Not to downplay this incident or any. We hear about them more and they are horrific.
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Knife crime has risen 80% in the last 10 years
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 11:20 AM
  • #4,257
pusbccfc said:
Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.
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Both born in the UK. So nothing to do with a recent influx of immigrants as many were suggesting earlier.
 
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Joy Division

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  • Yesterday at 11:22 AM
  • #4,258
Awful news and really hope everyone pulls through.

Thoughts and prayers to the Reformers suffering right now with the news the perpetrators are actually British.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:22 AM
  • #4,259
Grendel said:
Knife crime has risen 80% in the last 10 years
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The figures and reasons for that are interesting

Is knife crime at a record high?

In order to address knife crime effectively, we need to understand the full extent of the problem. View our latest stats, & Toolkit evidence.
youthendowmentfund.org.uk
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Yesterday at 11:22 AM
  • #4,260
PVA said:
Both born in the UK. So nothing to do with a recent influx of immigrants as many were suggesting earlier.
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Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:23 AM
  • #4,261
The eyewitness reports sounded absolutely horrendous, it’s fortunate that so many of the victims are out of hospital, and that there isn’t a broader security threat involved.

Do any of this country’s political parties have a convincing plan for tackling knife crime?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 11:24 AM
  • #4,262
Gynnsthetonic said:
Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers
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The police have said there's nothing to indicate it was a terrorist incident haven't they?
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:26 AM
  • #4,263
David O'Day said:
The police have said there's nothing to indicate it was a terrorist incident haven't they?
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Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 11:27 AM
  • #4,264
Gynnsthetonic said:
Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers
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But I thought the problem was immigration?

So what's the answer, deport everyone with foreign parents, even those born in the UK?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:28 AM
  • #4,265
PVA said:
But I thought the problem was immigration?

So what's the answer, deport everyone with foreign parents, even those born in the UK?
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It’s interesting you were saying people were more interested in the politics of the argument than the victims and now are doing exactly the same
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 11:29 AM
  • #4,266
Gynnsthetonic said:
Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?
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So you know better than the police? Ok, I know you gutted it's a couple British people but take your vile poison and go away.

I'll wait until the police tell us why it happened.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 11:29 AM
  • #4,267
Gynnsthetonic said:
Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?
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Well it has to meet this criteria:

The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

You just described it as 'random' - by definition that means it is not terrorism.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:30 AM
  • #4,268
Grendel said:
It’s interesting you were saying people were more interested in the politics of the argument than the victims and now are doing exactly the same
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No my point was that people were more concerned with the background of the attackers and didn't once mention the victims. It was quite clear which was more important to them.

Nice try though.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:30 AM
  • #4,269
David O'Day said:
So you know better than the police? Ok, I know you gutted it's a couple British people but take your vile poison and go away.

I'll wait until the police tell us why it happened.
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You can't answer can you Mr IRA
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 11:31 AM
  • #4,270
PVA said:
Well it has to meet this criteria:

The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

You just described it as 'random' - that means it is not terrorism.
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Facts and the truth don't mean anything anymore.
 
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