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  • Start date Feb 11, 2024
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #211
Hobo said:
The Sumo contest between about eight players at every corner is another thing that is spoiling the game.
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Even more so when the refs wait until the corner to be taken then blow up.

The other week we took a corner, he blew up and booked their player. Surely a pen?
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #212
He’s been suspended.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #213
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s been suspended.
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Got a link?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #214
Three match ban.
 
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ptr

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #215
Glad that’s been sorted.

Now they need to sort out the absolutely ridiculous rule that they can only step in and sanction if they deem the referee hasn’t seen it. How the Sheffield weds player hasn’t been done is a joke.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #216
EFL are a sound bunch of lads, always said so.
 
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Noble

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #217
Nick said:
Got a link?
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Joe Bryan receives three-game suspension for violent conduct

Left-back charged by The FA...
www.millwallfc.co.uk
 
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skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #218

‘It obviously doesn’t look good’ – Joe Edwards says Millwall won’t contest Joe Bryan ban but offer

JOE BRYAN has said he did not deliberately try to hurt Tatsuhiro Sakamoto, according to Millwall boss Joe Edwards. Bryan
southwarknews.co.uk

Apparently he didn't mean to elbow him in the face, just an accident...
 
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Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #219
Good to see he's got what he deserved.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #220
Wonder whose spine the FA borrowed
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #221
Noble said:

Joe Bryan receives three-game suspension for violent conduct

Left-back charged by The FA...
www.millwallfc.co.uk
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Fucking annoying when we should’ve been playing against 10 men for an hour then.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #222
skyblueelephant76 said:

‘It obviously doesn’t look good’ – Joe Edwards says Millwall won’t contest Joe Bryan ban but offer

JOE BRYAN has said he did not deliberately try to hurt Tatsuhiro Sakamoto, according to Millwall boss Joe Edwards. Bryan
southwarknews.co.uk

Apparently he didn't mean to elbow him in the face, just an accident...
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That explanation is a load of bollocks.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #223
Some of the comments on x

He barely touched him
 

Mr Panda

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #224
Still find it so strange Joe Allen walks away with a sunken face but because it was a recorded foul it’s all ok
 
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steve cooper

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  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #225
Should have fined him as well. He still gets paid whether he plays or not.
 

Ricketts

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #226
Mr Panda said:
Still find it so strange Joe Allen walks away with a sunken face but because it was a recorded foul it’s all ok
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You’re knowledge of CCFC players is amazing
 
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Frostie

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  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #227
 

jordan210

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  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #228
Frostie said:
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Words are easy once you've been caught
 
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Calista

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #229
robbiekeane said:
I’ll play along and pretend you don’t know why it’s different and I’ll explain it to you

Obviously derogatory terms at any groups, including Welsh people as per your example, are offensive and unacceptable, but comparing that to the racial stereotyping of Asians isnt valid. The (obvious) key difference lies in the systemic nature and historical context of racism. Stereotypes against racialized communities contribute to much broader patterns of discrimination and prejudice, affecting those peoples lives pretty significantly

In short, it’s a shit comparison that ignores historic marginalisation, power dynamics, and general global context

but you know this of course
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Not sure you can have a league table that grades the effects of ignorance or abuse according to the nationality of the sufferer? There are plenty of ‘power dynamics’ between England and its neighbours, and real life effects on people.

In my mind though, the level of offence always depends on the context e.g. attempted humour vs. intentional nastiness. On this forum there’s often the former, very rarely the latter.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Feb 14, 2024
  • #230
Frostie said:
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Tosser.
 
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HadjiChippo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #231
He’s lucky it was just 3 matches.

Hopefully refs will take a bit more notice to the over the top targeting Saka is getting at the minute.
 
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hamertime

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #232
What I can’t get my head around is if a fan did that that outside the stadium he would be looking at a year inside. What he did, was criminal, nothing to do with sport.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #233
hamertime said:
What I can’t get my head around is if a fan did that that outside the stadium he would be looking at a year inside. What he did, was criminal, nothing to do with sport.
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Don't be daft. It was an accident. The bloke said so. Why would he lie?
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #234
Is it cos he's racist?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #235
Weird reaction to the apology on here imo. If he’s just going to get abuse for it then may as well not bother to offer an apology in the first place.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #236
SBT said:
Weird reaction to the apology on here imo. If he’s just going to get abuse for it then may as well not bother to offer an apology in the first place.
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To be fair I agree, I admire him for saying it
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #237
robbiekeane said:
I’ll play along and pretend you don’t know why it’s different and I’ll explain it to you

Obviously derogatory terms at any groups, including Welsh people as per your example, are offensive and unacceptable, but comparing that to the racial stereotyping of Asians isnt valid. The (obvious) key difference lies in the systemic nature and historical context of racism. Stereotypes against racialized communities contribute to much broader patterns of discrimination and prejudice, affecting those peoples lives pretty significantly

In short, it’s a shit comparison that ignores historic marginalisation, power dynamics, and general global context

but you know this of course
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I am pretty certain - and I will check - that someone was once prosecuted for this and it was identified as a hate speech.
 
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skybluericoh

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #238
Terry Gibson's perm said:
For these sort of incidents it would be fairer and better to ban the player from two future games against us so we get a benefit.
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If the team was only allowed to field 10 from kick off? Or they could have a replacement who might be better- could backfire
 
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skybluericoh

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #239
TewkesburySkyBlue said:
.It seems to me the assaults on Jamie Allen and Sakamoto are being brushed under the carpet for what ever reason
'The ref gave a free kick so that's the end of it?' What total cobblers.
Personally if it were me I'd bring a private prosecution against Bernard for ABH and see him in court.
Thug.
The Saka incident is potentially just as bad.
The player, whoever it was should be made to face to consequences of his thuggery .
Far be it from me to tell Doug King what to do ( well OK then I will ) but I'd talk to the chairman /owner of both the Sheff W and Millwall and tell them we intend to make a big deal of both incidents unless they take appropriate action against the respective players and manager/ coach if they encouraged such behaviour .
If they would not then full steam ahead and see them in court .
This is supposed to be the beautiful game not Saturday night in Glasgow city centre.( Apologies to my Scottish friends)
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Please be careful there maybe a Cobbler on here that takes offence
 

Old Warwickshire lad

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #240
I suppose the only thing we might gain from this is, that it has been brought to the attention of the powers that be.
Referees are human beings, and hopefully this will put it in the back of their minds.
And sub consciously they just might be on the lookout for it, we can only live in hope.
 
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skybluericoh

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #241
Have they taken swift action because it was a Millwall player?

or is it 3rd time lucky appeal turned down, review then turned down then this?
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #242
The trouble is, that to some teams it's just accepted now that it's fair game to target certain players without regard for the rules.
This was an extract from a report on the Norwich game.

"Mark Robins was angered at the lack of protection Tatsuhiro Sakamoto received as he was clearly targeted by Norwich enforcers Marcelino Nunez and Kenny McLean, both of whom were booked for cynical tackles on the Japanese winger inside the first 45 minutes."

“You’ll have to ask him (David Wagner) whether it was a tactic to kick him out of the game, because that’s what it looked like to me,” Robins said. “He gets absolutely zero protection from the referee and then he ends up coming off, and probably bruised and battered for the next few days"

This was Wagner's response.
"CoventryLive duly asked Wagner if it was part of his game plan to target Sakamoto, to which he made no apologies, admitting: “Yes, obviously Sakamoto and O’Hare are two of the standout players in the Championship and good players for Coventry, and if you want to be successful you have to try to get them calm. I can only praise my whole team because it was a team effort to keep them calm, so big credit to my players"
 
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Bidda

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  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #243
steve cooper said:
The trouble is, that to some teams it's just accepted now that it's fair game to target certain players without regard for the rules.
This was an extract from a report on the Norwich game.

"Mark Robins was angered at the lack of protection Tatsuhiro Sakamoto received as he was clearly targeted by Norwich enforcers Marcelino Nunez and Kenny McLean, both of whom were booked for cynical tackles on the Japanese winger inside the first 45 minutes."

“You’ll have to ask him (David Wagner) whether it was a tactic to kick him out of the game, because that’s what it looked like to me,” Robins said. “He gets absolutely zero protection from the referee and then he ends up coming off, and probably bruised and battered for the next few days"

This was Wagner's response.
"CoventryLive duly asked Wagner if it was part of his game plan to target Sakamoto, to which he made no apologies, admitting: “Yes, obviously Sakamoto and O’Hare are two of the standout players in the Championship and good players for Coventry, and if you want to be successful you have to try to get them calm. I can only praise my whole team because it was a team effort to keep them calm, so big credit to my players"
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Isn’t that sort of comment bringing the game into disrepute?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #244
Bidda said:
Isn’t that sort of comment bringing the game into disrepute?
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‘Big credit to my players for hacking theirs to bits’

No punishment of course
 
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Bidda

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  • Feb 15, 2024
  • #245
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘Big credit to my players for hacking theirs to bits’

No punishment of course
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It’s been mentioned several times before on this forum that we’re too complacent when it comes to defending teammates who are getting roughed up by the opposition. Should our management team be encouraging the players to be more proactive in complaining to the ref about this? Perhaps a Micky Doyle coaching session is required?
 
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