So who's going to be our new manager then? (1 Viewer)

[skybluefred]

He'd have got us promoted out of this awful division that's for sure. He wouldn't struggle to get results against teams which have budgets half of ours.

What exactly is our budget? because none of it has been spent on buying decent players. I also doubt the young Fergie would have had any more success
with our squad than any other manager.

 

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[Senior Vick from Alicante]

I don't think that with our current owners we can attract any one of a high calibre. If Elvis was replaced we would probably end up with the usual mercenaries looking for one last pay day. Added to this most would want a change of playing staff so Sisu would not want to support this. Elvis has a thankless task, he is always shopping for cast offs, OBrian being the exception. Until you can get the players you want and not what you are given, even if they are in that mould, you are always fighting a loosing battle. It's a change of owner or investment that is needed, then and only then can you judge a manager. It must be a hard job trying to make a silk purse from a sows ear. Building a team needs stability, not short term loans and short journeyman contracts, these players are available for a reason and it's not because their the best at what they do. At least Pressley wants to be here and wants to do right by the club and the fans, it's Sisu that doesn't.

 

[Grendel]

He'd have got us promoted out of this awful division that's for sure. He wouldn't struggle to get results against teams which have budgets half of ours.

People should look at some of the squads of teams who are doing better.

Look at Rochdale - strikers are Jack Muldoon a 25 year old who played previously for north ferriby united and Worksop town and Reuben Noble-Lazarus a loan (heaven forbid) with 4 career goals. Yes Pressley has his hands tied he only has nouble Madine Mcquiod Jackson and Tudgay to pick from.

 

[skybluefred]

He would have fared a lot better as he is a better manager obviously.

He was no different to Pressley when he first came to England, a wet behind the ears young recruit.
the major difference being he was able to throw money around like confetti, a luxury that CCFC's managers have not had.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

What exactly is our budget? because none of it has been spent on buying decent players. I also doubt the young Fergie would have had any more success
with our squad than any other manager.

No Pressley has blown it on players that currently look like overpaid crap (although that may be due to the managers poor tactics)

And if you doubt that Ferguson couldn't have done any better (young or not), then I have nothing else to say to you. It's not worth my time.

 

[wingy]

He was no different to Pressley when he first came to England, a wet behind the ears young recruit.
the major difference being he was able to throw money around like confetti, a luxury that CCFC's managers have not had.

Didn't he manage and have some success with Aberdeen first ?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

He was no different to Pressley when he first came to England, a wet behind the ears young recruit.
the major difference being he was able to throw money around like confetti, a luxury that CCFC's managers have not had.

Yea you know, there was only those three league titles he won and the European cup he won with Aberdeen.

Pressleys greatest success is getting Falkirk relegated from the scottish top tier.

 

[skybluetony176]

I don't think that with our current owners we can attract any one of a high calibre. If Elvis was replaced we would probably end up with the usual mercenaries looking for one last pay day. Added to this most would want a change of playing staff so Sisu would not want to support this. Elvis has a thankless task, he is always shopping for cast offs, OBrian being the exception. Until you can get the players you want and not what you are given, even if they are in that mould, you are always fighting a loosing battle. It's a change of owner or investment that is needed, then and only then can you judge a manager. It must be a hard job trying to make a silk purse from a sows ear. Building a team needs stability, not short term loans and short journeyman contracts, these players are available for a reason and it's not because their the best at what they do. At least Pressley wants to be here and wants to do right by the club and the fans, it's Sisu that doesn't.

Correct.

 

[Grendel]

He was no different to Pressley when he first came to England, a wet behind the ears young recruit.
the major difference being he was able to throw money around like confetti, a luxury that CCFC's managers have not had.

Yes so wet behind the ears he'd managed a team that won a European trophy beating Bayern Munjch and Real Madrid.

Oh dear.

 

[Paxman II]

Fergie was a game away from being fired at UTD. A terrible beginning but they let it ride and gave him some time during a period when managers were not such throw away commodities! The rest is history.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Didn't he manage and have some success with Aberdeen first ?

Alex ferguson

Aberdeen

• Scottish Premier Division (3): 1979–80, 1983–84, 1984–85
• Scottish Cup (4): 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86
• Scottish League Cup (1): 1985–86
• Drybrough Cup (1): 1980
• UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1982–83
• UEFA Super Cup (1): 1983

Steven Pressley
Falkirk

• Scottish Challenge Cup (1): 2011-12 (JPT equivalent)

 

[Paxman II]

The only way you could change things in the short term is by endangering the long term Quick fixes do not work out well.

 

[Grendel]

The only way you could change things in the short term is by endangering the long term Quick fixes do not work out well.

So you'd have stuck with Andy Thorn then?

 

[skybluetony176]

So you'd have stuck with Andy Thorn then?

Surely AT was a quick fix?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Frankly the idea the SP is similar to when Ferguson arrived in England is the most ludicrous thing I've read since it was suggested that Marlon King should play for England or that Andy Thorn is the best manager since Jimmy Hill.

 

[Paxman II]

Andy Thorn was always a 'quick fix' gamble was he not that merely suited the moment and out pouring of the fans to give him a go?

 

[Grendel]

Frankly the idea the SP is similar to when Ferguson arrived in England is the most ludicrous thing I've read since it was suggested that Marlon King should play for England or that Andy Thorn is the best manager since Jimmy Hill.

Sky blue John did once say thorn was ahead of his time and ferguson was copying his diamond formation.

 

[Grendel]

Andy Thorn was always a 'quick fix' gamble was he not?

No he was given a long term contract. Boothroyd - stuck with him would you?

 

[Flying Fokker]

No Pressley has blown it on players that currently look like overpaid crap (although that may be due to the managers poor tactics)

And if you doubt that Ferguson couldn't have done any better (young or not), then I have nothing else to say to you. It's not worth my time.

Are they really overpaid? Or is the going rate for a crap player. Trouble is we have a few too many on the pitch at the same time.

 

[Paxman II]

Actually yes I would have stuck with Boothroyd yes. We keep changing managers like the weather. Boothroyd had good form at our level and I'm glad you mentioned him because that's a classic example. SISU have and always will be the major problem. They get into a situation where they need another quick fix....I hope they hold their nerve this time and give the man time. We have nothing to lose at the moment to build for the future.
Those that advocate a change are in hope of a rally and promotion. That would probably bring immediate relegation again. We need to build.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

PMSL And it's Gradi.

Many thanks for correcting my spelling of Gradi, and I'd try either Pampers or Huggies for your Bladder problem. Have a nice evening

 

[skybluetony176]

Actually yes I would have stuck with Boothroyd yes. We keep changing managers like the weather. Boothroyd had good form at our level and I'm glad you mentioned him because that's a classic example. SISU have and always will be the major problem. They get into a situation where they need another quick fix....I hope they hold their nerve this time and give the man time. We have nothing to lose at the moment to build for the future.
Those that advocate a change are in hope of a rally and promotion. That would probably bring immediate relegation again. We need to build.

You're not allowed to blame SISU. They're going to get SP's replacement right then its Premier League here we come. Woooo Hoooo!

 

[spider_ricoh]

So you'd have stuck with Andy Thorn then?

Yes and I would bring him back if SP is sacked.

Frankly the idea the SP is similar to when Ferguson arrived in England is the most ludicrous thing I've read since it was suggested that Marlon King should play for England or that Andy Thorn is the best manager since Jimmy Hill.

Both comments by me - the first in error not realising he had ludicrously played for Jamaica. The second is fair enough really.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Grendel...Sorry mate but you're wrong. Thorne was given a 12 month rolling contract.

 

[ajsccfc]

I'm all for the idea of Pressley being given adequate time and all, but the notion that he's doing as well as anyone else possibly could with the same players is ludicrous. We were on the cusp of the top six at one point with the same players who now are flirting with relegation. At some point he has to be responsible for managing a football team regardless of circumstance.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Actually yes I would have stuck with Boothroyd yes. We keep changing managers like the weather. Boothroyd had good form at our level and I'm glad you mentioned him because that's a classic example. SISU have and always will be the major problem. They get into a situation where they need another quick fix....I hope they hold their nerve this time and give the man time. We have nothing to lose at the moment to build for the future.
Those that advocate a change are in hope of a rally and promotion. That would probably bring immediate relegation again. We need to build.

If I could see flashes of a good team, or a steady improvement under Pressley I'd agree but I personally can't see it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I'm all for the idea of Pressley being given adequate time and all, but the notion that he's doing as well as anyone else possibly could with the same players is ludicrous. We were on the cusp of the top six at one point with the same players who now are flirting with relegation. At some point he has to be responsible for managing a football team regardless of circumstance.

Yeah, it's safe to say the first team is underperforming, badly.

Now if that's balanced by him sorting out the club structure, academy, and setting out a well-drilled progression then that's probably a case for him staying.

You could also make a case that employees can't help but notice the turmoil behind the scenes, and that rubs off. That too could be a case for keeping him.

But... the first team is underperforming, no doubt.

 

[covmark]

Many thanks for correcting my spelling of Gradi, and I'd try either Pampers or Huggies for your Bladder problem. Have a nice evening

I don't like this new and improved Sky Blue Kid. Can we have the old one back that can't quote and hurls abuse at any given moment.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Many thanks for correcting my spelling of Gradi, and I'd try either Pampers or Huggies for your Bladder problem. Have a nice evening

Tbh I'm sure Dario Gradi would uproot himself from his position at Crewe, where he is a God-like figure to come to Coventry. Great shout.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Fergie was a game away from being fired at UTD. A terrible beginning but they let it ride and gave him some time during a period when managers were not such throw away commodities! The rest is history.

And the player credited with saving Fergies Utd career? None other than Mark Robins. He scored the winner in the 91 Cup Final replay with suggestions that Fergie was on his way out if he didn't win the cup.


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[johnniericoh]

SP is the most dedicated and passionate manager around - as seen once again yesterday in the tunnel area being physically held after a bust up with the Walsall player's manset being his main target -he does really care and demands 100%- everyone has an opinion but SP is working with what he has got - changing managers will not solve any problems as i am sure he would be rather working with last years players top of the league and playing in front of 25,000 + than having to manage average players and playing in front of 8,000- is this really his fault

Let us not forget the great Fergie went over three years before first Man U trophy - FA cup win against C Palace in 1989/90 season

 

[Grendel]

Yes and I would bring him back if SP is sacked.



Both comments by me - the first in error not realising he had ludicrously played for Jamaica. The second is fair enough really.

Ha ha ha ha - I knew it CJ Parker - ha ha ha ha!!!!

 

[Paxman II]

I'm all for the idea of Pressley being given adequate time and all, but the notion that he's doing as well as anyone else possibly could with the same players is ludicrous. We were on the cusp of the top six at one point with the same players who now are flirting with relegation. At some point he has to be responsible for managing a football team regardless of circumstance.

The same players...are you sure?

 

[Grendel]

The same players...are you sure?

After the first 7 games yes and without Madine.

 

[stupot07]

Yes and I would bring him back if SP is sacked.

I literally haven't laughed so much in ages...


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