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Sky sports to stream every EFL game (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 22, 2020
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jordan210

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #36
You would think they need to get thing announced pretty soon. Wasn't the ifollow subscription renewal around now.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #37
Does the Sky way average out the return across clubs .
Or am I not getting this ?
 

Kubrick

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #38
Need a proper announcement on this, ifollow auto renews on 25 August.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #39
jamboy said:
Need a proper announcement on this, ifollow auto renews on 25 August.
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My Car insurance today robbing f**"ers .
I haven't used it for six months and it needs a new battery, possibly steering rack or power steering pump .
Ouch not much change from a grand.
 

Kubrick

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #40
Thinking about this, I reckon the deal the EFL have reached with Sky is to allow the clubs to stream using ifollow. So will save the cost of a VPN.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #41
So what are iFollow taking my money for now?
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #42
wingy said:
Does the Sky way average out the return across clubs .
Or am I not getting this ?
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Said the clubs keep the revenue in the tweet above, which I read as from their own home games.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #43
shmmeee said:
So what are iFollow taking my money for now?
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It’s all a bit confusing.
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #44
Already paid for ifollow i think? Prob works out cheaper

If it works that is
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #45
shmmeee said:
So what are iFollow taking my money for now?
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They will still be showing games for "overseas" customers?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #46
covcity4life said:
They will still be showing games for "overseas" customers?
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So am I best off cancelling my iFollow sub and buying a UK one so I can watch home and away games?

I want the shirt and maybe the ST if we get back into games (though I'm happy to wait until it's 50% allowed and buy tickets), and want to watch all away games all season on iFollow. I do not want to pay £490 (£260 ST + £230 in away games) for the pleasure.

Help me SBT my family is starving!
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #47
shmmeee said:
So am I best off cancelling my iFollow sub and buying a UK one so I can watch home and away games?

I want the shirt and maybe the ST if we get back into games (though I'm happy to wait until it's 50% allowed and buy tickets), and want to watch all away games all season on iFollow. I do not want to pay £480 for the pleasure.

Help me SBT my family is starving!
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Erm dunno bro lol

I imagine ifollow season pass works our cheaper than sky sports which also isnt designed to be there all season long it seems

Ifollow rights have not changed at all right?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #48
shmmeee said:
So am I best off cancelling my iFollow sub and buying a UK one so I can watch home and away games?

I want the shirt and maybe the ST if we get back into games (though I'm happy to wait until it's 50% allowed and buy tickets), and want to watch all away games all season on iFollow. I do not want to pay £490 (£260 ST + £230 in away games) for the pleasure.

Help me SBT my family is starving!
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The season ticket thing they've annouced is home games only on ifollow. You'll need to pay another £10 for every away game. If ifollow is as before its home and away (although not all championship teams are signed up). Would make ifollow the cheaper option for those 'overseas'.

I'm tempted to get the shirt, its a gamble on if you think the streaming will last all season. Suspect the ifollow pricing in the UK will be higher than for those living 'overseas'. Surprised they haven't jacked the overseas price up as well to be honest.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #49
Hopefully this doesn’t impact ifollow for those of us who actually live abroad
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #50
Sick Boy said:
Hopefully this doesn’t impact ifollow for those of us who actually live abroad
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If the overseas ifollow is the same as previous seasons that's a pretty big difference compared to the cost in the UK which, if it runs all season, will end up being £460.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #51
I think fans may be back sooner than anticipated.

Scottish football fans to be allowed back into stadiums from September

SCOTTISH football fans could be allowed to return to stadiums from SEPTEMBER. Nicola Sturgeon announced plans to reopen stadiums for a limited number of spectators from September 14 at today’…
www.thescottishsun.co.uk
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #52
I read it that ifollow will broadcast all games, including those that will be shown on sky. So sky’s “favour” to the clubs is not refusing them permission to screen the games they are also broadcasting. No official suggestion that ALL EFL games will be shown on sky, yet. £10 a game will work out dear in the long run but in isolation you’ve gotta be happy with £10 a game, especially if they pull their finger out and make an ifollow app for smart tv/fire stick etc.

A pure UK season ticket for ifollow seems tricky as the 3pm blackout is likely to be reintroduced when more fans are allowed in, so wouldn’t surprise me if there is only an option to pay per game, VPN aside.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #53
chiefdave said:
The season ticket thing they've annouced is home games only on ifollow. You'll need to pay another £10 for every away game. If ifollow is as before its home and away (although not all championship teams are signed up). Would make ifollow the cheaper option for those 'overseas'.

I'm tempted to get the shirt, its a gamble on if you think the streaming will last all season. Suspect the ifollow pricing in the UK will be higher than for those living 'overseas'. Surprised they haven't jacked the overseas price up as well to be honest.
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This is what I'm saying. It's probably cheaper to buy the overseas iFollow just for away games anyway, then get the ST so you get the shirt (and the ST itself) on top?
 

skybluepm2

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #54
I suspect the club will clarify this in due course but I’d hope that when I purchase my ST/membership I’ll have the option of watching via my sky package at no extra charge instead of the shitty and temperamental ifollow stream. Maybe I’ve not read this correctly?
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #55
skybluepm2 said:
I suspect the club will clarify this in due course but I’d hope that when I purchase my ST/membership I’ll have the option of watching via my sky package at no extra charge instead of the shitty and temperamental ifollow stream. Maybe I’ve not read this correctly?
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I think its sky allowing ifollow uk to show all games including televised so that club a can sell season tickets in a different way

Not sure sky will be doing ppv on their box
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #56
shmmeee said:
This is what I'm saying. It's probably cheaper to buy the overseas iFollow just for away games anyway, then get the ST so you get the shirt (and the ST itself) on top?
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I’m a bit worried that they might be better at spotting VPNs following the ‘large update’ they did over the summer. I had issues with a couple of games last year and gave up. Be annoying to spend money on a pass and it not work, and I’m not sure how the request for a refund would work - although I suppose you could say you’d been moved back to the UK unexpectedly or something.

If you want to watch in the ground at any point though, a ST has to be one of your options I’d have thought.

Think I’m going to stick with Sky and ST for now and see how it works out.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #57
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
I’m a bit worried that they might be better at spotting VPNs following the ‘large update’ they did over the summer. I had issues with a couple of games last year and gave up. Be annoying to spend money on a pass and it not work, and I’m not sure how the request for a refund would work - although I suppose you could say you’d been moved back to the UK unexpectedly or something.

If you want to watch in the ground at any point though, a ST has to be one of your options I’d have thought.

Think I’m going to stick with Sky and ST for now and see how it works out.
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This is a good point. I weirdly had access without a VPN all last season and now it doesn’t work.

Are all the games on Sky? I’m thinking at this rate it’s best to go £10/game away then as I won’t watch anything else on Sky and I assume it’s more expensive on average than 2-3 games a month?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #58
Think people are overcomplicating this.

You can buy a season ticket which will give you access to a stream of all home games while playing behind BCD, even games being shown live on Sky.

If you don't have a season ticket you can buy the stream for a single match for £10. All home games will be streamed and away games for teams who are part of the EFL Digital agreement (while BCD). Would guess that clubs that aren't part of the agreement will also offer streams on their own platforms.

Sky will continue with the same EFL coverage they usually have but games being shown live on Sky will no longer mean clubs can't stream them.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #59
mrtrench said:
FWIW, if this is correct I hope it sticks after COVID - I think the EFL is missing a huge revenue stream by denying ppl to watch on TV. I doubt that live attendance would be affected much - it's a much better experience for those that live close and can attend easily.
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It would massively affect attendances, particularly for away fans.
 

speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #60
Well I’m well confused by all this. Had 5 season tickets last season in family. Due to family members shielding and generally having to more careful than most I can’t see us being able / wanting to go to games next season.

Was thinking of just renewing one season ticket as a membership to get the free games whilst still bcd, however if they let fans in after a couple of games might only get a couple of free games, and a shirt doing that.

Will games still be able to be purchased after fans are allowed in, now suggesting yes until 50% are allowed back then we don’t know is how I’ve read it.
Then I’ve got sky sports already but will that cover games our games for free or not, will it be in he or not?

Bit of minefield this.. just want to be able to watch all the games, don’tfeel like I could end of forking out for membership, ifollow pass and sky sports!
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #61
mrtrench said:
FWIW, if this is correct I hope it sticks after COVID - I think the EFL is missing a huge revenue stream by denying ppl to watch on TV. I doubt that live attendance would be affected much - it's a much better experience for those that live close and can attend easily.
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The genie is out the bottle now, might be hard to go back. Even if they open grounds up completely there will still be people who are nervous about going and prefer to stay at home. Are they going to turn down their money?

Once things are back to normal I've never been convinced streaming has that much of an impact on attendance. Sure on a freezing cold Wednesday in December you might not go to trek all the way to Middlesborough but maybe the EFL could take that as a hint to ensure they schedule longer trips for weekend games.

How many of the dedicated chaps that head off to every away game would stay at home because they could stream it? Not many IMO. Same at home, going to a game is very different to watching a stream.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #62
I just wish they’d bite the bullet and do a U.K. all season pass. It’s the gamble between VPN vs games back quickly vs WTF happens if we’re on Sky that’s hard to balance.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #63
wingy said:
Whatever way gives the Club the most here.
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unless of illegal streams
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #64
pusbccfc said:
It would massively affect attendances, particularly for away fans.
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I don’t think you’ll see away fans for a long time yet!
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #65
shmmeee said:
This is a good point. I weirdly had access without a VPN all last season and now it doesn’t work.

Are all the games on Sky? I’m thinking at this rate it’s best to go £10/game away then as I won’t watch anything else on Sky and I assume it’s more expensive on average than 2-3 games a month?
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I think all of the non 3pm Saturday games are on Sky (second hand info from a forest fan) or certainly the midweek ones.

It’s just the away games I’m undecided about, probably wait and see how other ‘foreign’ fans get on. If we can, I’d quite like to go to as many as possible, another uncertainty that prevents me buying a season pass on iFollow. Would be worth it if I knew I couldn’t go to away games and I knew there was no other way to access the few that don’t end up on Sky, but I don’t.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #66
chiefdave said:
Think people are overcomplicating this.

You can buy a season ticket which will give you access to a stream of all home games while playing behind BCD, even games being shown live on Sky.

If you don't have a season ticket you can buy the stream for a single match for £10. All home games will be streamed and away games for teams who are part of the EFL Digital agreement (while BCD). Would guess that clubs that aren't part of the agreement will also offer streams on their own platforms.

Sky will continue with the same EFL coverage they usually have but games being shown live on Sky will no longer mean clubs can't stream them.
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Yeah, I guess - probably me being thick, but the complicated bit for me is away games and overlap (I’ll be paying Sky and CCFC for access to the same games). An iFollow season pass (to make sure I’ve got away games covered) on top of that would mean I was paying 3 times in some cases.

Away games - how many won’t be available through my Sky subscription (bearing in mind we don’t know what’s going to happen about BCD or away fans yet)? I guess I’ll just pay per game for any I’m not covered for, if possible.
 

samccov1987

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #67
This sounds pretty reasonable given the circumstances. £10 a game on ifollow so £230 for a full season of home games VS season ticket £260 plus a free shirt and chance to attend games when allowed.

Think with our ticket pricing it causes few problems but with a lot of teams season tickets run far higher - £350 to £500 easily in the championship. Going to pose a question for those fans whether they renew or not.

Obviously no one knows when fans will be back in but I still feel October optimistic and would be surprised if attendances are allowed above 50% at all next season.

VPN and Ifolllow for £140 is the cheapest way but do wonder if they’ll be more robust on VPN’s next year. Gets you away games too.

Just hoping that ifollow launch a smart tv app, with coverage already a bit glitchy air dropping to the tv seems to increase the lag. Although should probably invest in an extra hdmi cable.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #68
mrtrench said:
FWIW, if this is correct I hope it sticks after COVID - I think the EFL is missing a huge revenue stream by denying ppl to watch on TV. I doubt that live attendance would be affected much - it's a much better experience for those that live close and can attend easily.
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Completely disagree with this. As soon as COVID is over, 3pm KO should be off TV. There's already too many reasons for people not to go to the game, there shouldn't be another.

It will affect attendances, can't see how it won't. I'm hoping that the powers that be understand this.

Its a great stop gap in the mean time though and probably the only way I'm going to get to see them this season.

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Otis

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  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #69
hamil99 said:
im hoping they will do team packages, £460 to watch all the games seems a bit steep.
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Why not just go for an extreme titanium stream app.

£80 a year and you get all the Sky Sports, all Sky Movies, all films that haven't even been made yet and to sleep with Jennifer Lawrence, her sister and all her cousins. You also get a free Fortnum and Mason hamper pack and a luxury yacht thrown in for good measure.

Taylor Swift also comes round and empties your bins every other Tuesday.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2020
  • #70
Otis said:
Why not just go for an extreme titanium stream app.

£80 a year and you get all the Sky Sports, all Sky Movies, all films that haven't even been made yet and to sleep with Jennifer Lawrence, her sister and all her cousins. You also get a free Fortnum and Mason hamper pack and a luxury yacht thrown in for good measure.

Taylor Swift also comes round and empties your bins every other Tuesday.
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Is 'empties your bins' a euphemism?
 
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