Evo1883
Well-Known Member
We know the only way we would ever get there is a Brentford type model... Could take years and a huge slice of luck
the gamblers charter !!
Mark Robins if he gains promotion would be the clubs most successful manager since Hill absolutely no question
Well there is a question but anyway
I disagree, and I would imagine most city fans would too
I don’t think those who enjoyed 35 years of top flight would disagree to be honest
I witnessed from 89 and again... I disagree and firmly believe most people would too
I don't measure success in how often you can struggle and survive
I do measure an FA Cup win, a League Cup Semi Final, and numerous top 10 finishes in the top flight as being, well... moderately successful.I witnessed from 89 and again... I disagree and firmly believe most people would too
I don't measure success in how often you can struggle and survive
I witnessed from 89 and again... I disagree and firmly believe most people would too
I don't measure success in how often you can struggle and survive
Yeah but other than that, mediocrity and survival.
I agree - it was also a fact that we were about to go bust the day before they bought us too remember!Sisu would have to leave us in a better place than they found us for it to be a fact. Thus far they’re rebuilding the very jenga tower they knocked down. That is a fact.
You have to remember though that we didn’t avoid administration and in fact SISU were the ones that put us into administration.I agree - it was also a fact that we were about to go bust the day before they bought us too remember!
It wasn’t all coming up roses before Sisu - if they get us our own stadium and consolidate us in the Championship or dare I say it The Premier League then we should be in a better position than when they came in.
They’re are going in the right direction though!
Granted.You have to remember though that we didn’t avoid administration and in fact SISU were the ones that put us into administration.
Need a sure tenancy and Championship football and an improvement in the finances to be ahead of where we were when they picked us up. Doesn’t look likely from here but you never know.
We didn’t have a sure tenancy when they arrived and that’s the problem
My point exactly mate, I've swallowed by pride and I was very vocal about how much I hated SISU. When we dropped to League Two it looked like the end, they've turned our fortunes around on the pitch under Robin's, they deserve credit.Out of business
I don't actually disagree with you it's just the painful way they've gone about it that keeps most fans from saying it.
We've suffered tremendously as supporters to get where we are now, it's hard for Alot of people to forget
We did. It was just a terrible deal. We also had the option to buy half the ground. Our own ground would be a definite improvement on that. A five year deal at the Ricoh not so much.
The way I see it there were two interlinked issues when Sisu took over that you could argue the last ten years of shit can be outweighed by: the ground situation and the fact the club was a financial basket case. Sort those and get us to the Championship and Id be on board. Hell, sort those and have us competitive in L1 and I’d consider it.
We didn’t have an opportunity to buy half the ground. We had a stupid formula price to buy a charity share for around £10 million of a sub 50 year lease and would still have had to pay the full rental that had already made the club on the brink - any other council would have worked with the club not against it
If you look at the stadium situation from a financial perspective from when SISU came in and compare it to the deal Wasps got its staggering.That’s a lot of words to say we had an option to buy half of ACL
If you look at the stadium situation from a financial perspective from when SISU came in and compare it to the deal Wasps got its staggering.
We would have paid £60m in rent over the course of the 50 year lease, another £10m to buy Highs share which doesn’t actually gain you much and we were offered access to our own match day revenues for £24m. That’s £94m to play matches at the Ricoh for 50 years and match day only revenues.
Wasps got the whole thing on a 250 year lease for £7m.
If you look at the stadium situation from a financial perspective from when SISU came in and compare it to the deal Wasps got its staggering.
We would have paid £60m in rent over the course of the 50 year lease, another £10m to buy Highs share which doesn’t actually gain you much and we were offered access to our own match day revenues for £24m. That’s £94m to play matches at the Ricoh for 50 years and match day only revenues.
Wasps got the whole thing on a 250 year lease for £7m.
In my early days that what the Sky Blues was about. Looking at the bottom of the table and wondering where the points were coming from. But also, might I add, total optimism that we would stay up...I witnessed from 89 and again... I disagree and firmly believe most people would too
I don't measure success in how often you can struggle and survive
The Fish has said a number of times in the past that our business model can't support championship football, but now we are on the cusp of getting back there. If we get promoted MR will take the credit, rightly, but we can't deny that he has been given the funds to get where we are today. In the first season under Sisu, they had a real go at funding us to get back to the premiership. Maybe they will fund another go if we get promoted, who knows? or maybe we will come straight back down. We shall see (hopefully) next season.
That’s a lot of words to say we had an option to buy half of ACL.
Look this is about when I personally would consider us further forward. You’re welcome to your own views.
I know we’re in these roles where we argue with each other. But I just said we had a shit deal that needed sorting out and I’d forgive Sisu if they can sort it. But as of right now they haven’t and don’t look like either doing so or making it moot with a new ground.
Whether the ACL deal was worth it or not, it did exist and had a value to the club as we sold it for £4m or whatever. I used to half own a shit tip two up two down in foleshill. I now rent a better house but I was still more secure then no matter how shit my house. Right now we seem an awfully long way from any kind of security.
Fair enough if that's right. Do we know what our budget was with any accuracy? But in the context of having to play at St Andrews we seemed to have managed OK, and In that case we seem to have found some magic formula to attract players like Morosi, Allen, Dabo, Godden, McFaz, and the 2 loaned lads, if it wasn't money.We can deny it because there are several teams in this league with much bigger wage bills and other teams have spent too.
He was given the funds to compete
We are over achieving currently
Where were we heading if they didnt acquire us?
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