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SISU ready to sell? (10 Viewers)

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #351
skyblue93 said:
They wouldn't be allowed to in England - FA rejects Hull City application to change club’s name to Hull Tigers
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So that makes the type of organisation who rides roughshod over culture of clubs ideal for us now then.

And there never try and change that, nope.

It's like some don't learn from SISU or Wasps, and want to hear no evil
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #352
skyblue93 said:
They wouldn't be allowed to in England - FA rejects Hull City application to change club’s name to Hull Tigers
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Leipzig aren’t Red Bull Leipzig either. The name has changed to RasenBallsport.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #353
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Leipzig aren’t Red Bull Leipzig either. The name has changed to RasenBallsport.
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Great, that's alright then.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #354
Deleted member 5849 said:
So that makes the type of organisation who rides roughshod over culture of clubs ideal for us now then.

And there never try and change that, nope.

It's like some don't learn from SISU or Wasps, and want to hear no evil
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What would change? The badge, stadium name and colour of our away kit?
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #355
Skybluedownunder said:
Salzburg and Leipzig seem to be doing quite well for themselves


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RB Leipzig are one of the most hated clubs in Germany
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #356
procdoc said:
RB Leipzig are one of the most hated clubs in Germany
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But quite successful
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #357
procdoc said:
RB Leipzig are one of the most hated clubs in Germany
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I mean why do we need to be liked by other fans? I’m not sure MK Dons fans really care about anyone else’s opinion
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #358
Grendel said:
Well ideally the Brentford owner I guess. Someone who is rich and only interested in the club
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He is only interested in the club if it is making money. Watch what happens when they are relegated.
There model is not sustainable long term. Brentford is another Bournemouth (in terms of fanbase and opportunity to increase revenue) albeit with a different cash injection and investment approach.
Whist you have to admire there success and agree there "ownership model" is a big step up from SISU it is sadly not sustainable in the PL.
The model only works with TV revenues
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #359
Deleted member 5849 said:
So that makes the type of organisation who rides roughshod over culture of clubs ideal for us now then.

And there never try and change that, nope.

It's like some don't learn from SISU or Wasps, and want to hear no evil
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In fairness Jimmy Hill tried to change this club's name to Coventry Talbot in the 80s

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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #360
bawtryneal said:
He is only interested in the club if it is making money. Watch what happens when they are relegated.
There model is not sustainable long term. Brentford is another Bournemouth (in terms of fanbase and opportunity to increase revenue) albeit with a different cash injection and investment approach.
Whist you have to admire there success and agree there "ownership model" is a big step up from SISU it is sadly not sustainable in the PL.
The model only works with TV revenues
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Every club in the PL to some extent is reliant on the TV deal

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AOM

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #361
But don't Red Bull completely rebrand their football teams in their own image including the team names, kits and club badges?



Not sure if the above is completely up to date, but the only resemblance to what we were would be we have 'Coventry' in the team name.

I can understand fans wanting more success and top flight football again, but I'd not want that at the cost of losing the clubs identity as well
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #362
Skybluebeliever said:
Think the can might have started to be kicked
It could be a fishing exercise though , to see if anything comes from this.
O’hare injury couldn’t have come at a worse time though
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So you don’t think much will come of this? Shame.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #363
Deleted member 5849 said:
Red Bull have at every club they've taken over.
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They have a team in Brazil as well that they have done it with, it removes our identity and culture. I would hate a red bull take over unless, they kept all culture and sponsored only, invest their money in taking us up the ranks, but that will never happen so they can fuck off
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #364
I would hate for RB to take us over and rebrand us but do feel the need to remind people that’s essentially what Jimmy Hill did when he arrived.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #365
skybluetony176 said:
I would hate for RB to take us over and rebrand us but do feel the need to remind people that’s essentially what Jimmy Hill did when he arrived.
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He may have rebranded us, but we still had our identity and culture, not a fucking shitty energy drink and F1 brand all over us. I would fucking hate that, tastes like cat piss
 
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Travs

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #366
Yeah trying to justify a takeover by Red Bull is bullshit. Would be me done with it i'm afraid.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #367
I would rather have Mike Ashley than Red Bull
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #368
Yes I want success but there are limits that cannot be overstepped
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #369
skyblue93 said:
What would change? The badge, stadium name and colour of our away kit?
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All of the above?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #370
I want a Saudi so we can have people beheaded in the centre circle at half time.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #371
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
He may have rebranded us, but we still had our identity and culture, not a fucking shitty energy drink and F1 brand all over us. I would fucking hate that, tastes like cat piss
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Agree with your comments on RB, horrible stuff. I think our current identity is all Jimmy Hill though, he introduced the sky blue shirt, the sky blues nickname and indeed wrote the original lyrics to the sky blue song and put it to the music of the Eton boating song.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #372
Nick said:
I want a Saudi so we can have people beheaded in the centre circle at half time.
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Imagine how upset Sunderland fans would get when we start throwing stones on the pitch for the halftime stoning.
 
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AOM

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #373
Nick said:
I want a Saudi so we can have people beheaded in the centre circle at half time.
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That's only if they miss the halfway line kick
 
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hammerman

Member
  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #374
I think Sisu have realised that they can’t take the club any further forward. Realistically, they won’t get a massive price for us either. Listening to the price of football podcast last week, they were saying that on paper you can only value players on what they were purchased for. So in real terms that’s 5-8 million tops. I’m not sure how much the training ground is worth? Maybe 5-6 million. So in essence we’re worth £15m tops and we don’t have the lease for the ground. I can’t see what Sisu’s exit plan is.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #375
Nick said:
I want a Saudi so we can have people beheaded in the centre circle at half time.
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I vote Grendel is the first participant
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #376
hammerman said:
I think Sisu have realised that they can’t take the club any further forward. Realistically, they won’t get a massive price for us either. Listening to the price of football podcast last week, they were saying that on paper you can only value players on what they were purchased for. So in real terms that’s 5-8 million tops. I’m not sure how much the training ground is worth? Maybe 5-6 million. So in essence we’re worth £15m tops and we don’t have the lease for the ground. I can’t see what Sisu’s exit plan is.
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Did they say the value of the Golden Share was? Did they put a value on it at all when it came to selling a club?
 
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napolimp

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #377
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I mean why do we need to be liked by other fans? I’m not sure MK Dons fans really care about anyone else’s opinion
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No, but they probably care about being s**t. Worst of all worlds really.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #378
hammerman said:
I think Sisu have realised that they can’t take the club any further forward. Realistically, they won’t get a massive price for us either. Listening to the price of football podcast last week, they were saying that on paper you can only value players on what they were purchased for. So in real terms that’s 5-8 million tops. I’m not sure how much the training ground is worth? Maybe 5-6 million. So in essence we’re worth £15m tops and we don’t have the lease for the ground. I can’t see what Sisu’s exit plan is.
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For Sisu, it's a bit like doing the lottery every week. You know your chances of coming out on top long term are close to zero but you can't stop in case your numbers come up next week. Sisy's only hope of getting their money back is if we somehow get to the premier league. Hence their comment about third party investment.
 

hammerman

Member
  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #379
skybluetony176 said:
Did they say the value of the Golden Share was? Did they put a value on it at all when it came to selling a club?
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It’s worth no physical value what so ever. you can’t list it in the accounts as an asset. We all know it’s worth something in the long run but you can’t list it as an asset because the EFL can revoke it at any time.
 

hammerman

Member
  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #380
steve cooper said:
For Sisu, it's a bit like doing the lottery every week. You know your chances of coming out on top long term are close to zero but you can't stop in case your numbers come up next week. Sisy's only hope of getting their money back is if we somehow get to the premier league. Hence their comment about third party investment.
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I think your right. Ithink Sisu said that they had pumped £30m in to the club over the years and they want this money back. They're not going to sell up now when we’re worth maybe half of that amount and no stadium ownership. I can’t see how a third party investment is going to help in obtaining the lease either. Wasps or the council will not deal with the 3rd party if they are on the board of the football club.
 

covhead1

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #381
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I mean why do we need to be liked by other fans? I’m not sure MK Dons fans really care about anyone else’s opinion
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I'll phone them both up and ask
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #382
skybluetony176 said:
Agree with your comments on RB, horrible stuff. I think our current identity is all Jimmy Hill though, he introduced the sky blue shirt, the sky blues nickname and indeed wrote the original lyrics to the sky blue song and put it to the music of the Eton boating song.
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It is a bit weird how people talk about the identity and how it'd be sacrilege to change it when most revere the man who changed our identity in the 1960's and consider him our finest manager. We're not Singers anymore. Or the Bantams. Our first kit was black. The badge changes subtly all the time as looks nothing like our original badge.

Would I like a complete rebranding under such a deal? Not particularly. Would I like us to have a generic Red Bull crest? No. I could handle an away kit in RB corporate colours but not the home. Would Sky Blue Sam end up being a Red Bull Elephant?

Not that it matters as it's highly unlikely to ever happen.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #383
procdoc said:
RB Leipzig are one of the most hated clubs in Germany
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Man Utd are one of the most hated here. Chelsea were after getting the Russian billions, ditto Man City with the Abu Dhabi cash. Newcastle aren't exactly popular after the Saudi's and that'll only grow if the start buying their way to the top.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #384
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fernandopartridge said:
In fairness Jimmy Hill tried to change this club's name to Coventry Talbot in the 80s

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He did, and is renowned as one of the worst chairmen we've had for his decisions.
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Aug 3, 2022
  • #385
Malaka said:
It nearly happened when Mowbray was here, they may come in again and make an enquiry
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We’ve got the perfect set up for it. Central in the country, big arena, concert spaces, event spaces.


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