SISU Demo v Watford (1 Viewer)

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

no trolling ere mate what are you portesting about why wont you answer me unless its you dont really no!!!!!

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

i dont really know. just fancy it, like.

ccfcadz · Mar 25, 2011

The thing is like what was said on CWR last night who would be demonstrating against, Ranson, Hoffman or the four letter enigma that is SISU ??

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
i dont really know. just fancy it, like.

so that makes you the troll mate

Dinyull · Mar 25, 2011

sky blue zam said:
liverpool done it with shanks v the yanks, so lets do it with siswho are ya

The yanks were trying to sell up long before the protests started - just like SISU have been with us pretty much since they bought us.

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
so that makes you the troll mate

Well done mate. You've got me there.

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
Well done mate. You've got me there.

if you cant even say what the problem is then it makes you look like a chancer mate a clueless chancer come back when you no what your trying to do mate

nigel bruce · Mar 25, 2011

should have went into administration years ago.http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...=G&gbv=2&tbs=isch:1&ei=JZuMTZ_0DoKHhQfknaSjCw

Nick · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
if you cant even say what the problem is then it makes you look like a chancer mate a clueless chancer come back when you no what your trying to do mate

A bit harsh...

Don't let this go into a slanging match

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

Welcome to GMK, Nick. :slap:

ccfcadz · Mar 25, 2011

Fight!! Fight!! Fight!! Fight!!

kevinleftpeg · Mar 25, 2011

sorry to be boring but what about looking at this from a very simple Business perspective.

Outgoings;
Extortionately inflated Player wages driven by false market forces requires, to break even, approx 22k crowds average.
Player / staff wages probably account for 85%+ of all running costs / outgoings. THIS DOES NOT APPLY IN ANY BUSINESS except the top tiers of Sports. ie; NFL, Premiership, NHL etc.

Technically speaking SISU have failed because they have not adopted basic Business rules & continually funded a highly likely non viable venture as only 3 from 24 can reach the promised land each year.

So the problem is that without decent crowds ala Leeds, Leicester, Forest & Norwich etc we cannot begin to compete.

Conclusion;
Football in the lower tiers is even more crazy than the Premiership!
Players in Championship get paid too much.
Without investment from parties able / willing to risk losing millions the existing Business model across the lower tiers is doomed without Promotion.

Now the passionate bit;
Where are all the people who queued for hours to get an FA Cup ticket for the Chelsea game? I think most cannot stand to watch such a poor standard of Football week in week out, especially as the Players earn what they do?

We cannot survive as is with 15-18k crowds unless the Players get paid a sensible 'basic' & only get rewarded for success.

I have joked before but the only analogy that resonates on the above is to imagine Tesco's P&L if they paid all their till & shelf staff £50per hour. (no disrespect, but you can surely get the picture)

Football on the whole is a gigantic finacial mess

Nick · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
Welcome to GMK, Nick. :slap:

It is just a disagreement. Everybody disagrees on forums.

Just don't want to have to lock the thread because of it

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

Nick said:
A bit harsh...

Don't let this go into a slanging match

sorry mate but hes happy to call me troll when hes got no answers

Nick · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
sorry mate but hes happy to call me troll when hes got no answers

I feel like a school teacher now

Edgy : Dont call him a troll.

Larry : Don't call him a chancer.

Now shake hands....

Or if you are a gypsy, settle it like a man in the car park and then shake hands and be done with it! imp: (looks like Brad Pitt in Snatch don't you think?)

Just don't want the thread to be ruined

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

alright mate so if thread not to be ruined be nice if someone answered my questions huh

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

The answers you seek, are in the thread. It's just you've missed them whilst hard spanking the keyboard in haste to reply to everything.

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

nah mate you havent said owt except sisu arent very good you havent dsaid owt mate thats the problem

Great_Expectations · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
alright mate so if thread not to be ruined be nice if someone answered my questions huh

Way before my time, but I thought Larry Grayson was supposed to be funny?

Coventry La La La · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
nah mate you havent said owt except sisu arent very good you havent dsaid owt mate thats the problem

Please get a spell-checker Larry or at least re-read your posts for mistakes before sending them.

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
Its wasn’t set out as a protest. More a demo. A demo, voicing our concern about how SISU are running our club. Poor communication, failure to take the club any further forward to when they took over. We were in the shit then and we are still, 3 years later, in the shit now.

If you don’t want to take part, don’t.

And if you’re up for a wind up, try a different topic. This is serious in my eyes.

There you go. Now move on. You're boring everyone.

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
The answers you seek, are in the thread. It's just you've missed them whilst hard spanking the keyboard in haste to reply to everything.

you gottas understand mate you gotta be able to answer people without insulting and so far you havent given a single answer tells me you need to think a bit more before doing a portest thatd be a disaster mate if you want it to work

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
There you go. Now move on. You're boring everyone.

more insults so tell mewhats different now to before then eh

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

edy your pushing me now you wanna start summut up your happy to just insult sisu and ranson without nowing why but you cant answer a fan when he wants to no why he should join a portest it dont really say much does it except a portest just wont work if you cant take people asking you questions

skybluetelford · Mar 25, 2011

Pointless. They don't care. More effective would be a blockade of their London office !

edgy · Mar 25, 2011

Observer:

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc-sportstory-37684.html

The CableGuy · Mar 25, 2011

Coventry La La La said:
That wouldn't help the club in anyway it would simply ensure that it went into admin and anyway next season's shirt is meant to be nice.

That just about sums up where this club is at. The only good news generated by CCFC within the last few months is that the new kit is 'nice'.

Hamish · Mar 25, 2011

skybluetelford said:
Pointless. They don't care. More effective would be a blockade of their London office !

If anyone's going to the March in London this Saturday, maybe they could pay SISU a visit!

Sisu Capital

11-12 Hanover Street

London

W1S 1YQ

LarryGrayson · Mar 25, 2011

Got a mate to help me with this post as it's important and I'm dyslexic but you don't seem to wanna listen and call me troll.

What is the protest about? They've always had no communication. What do you want them to communicate anyway? Why? They took our shares so they didn't have to and you all sat back and insulted shareholders who didn't wanna hand them over.

Why isn't the club further forward then it was? Can you tell me why? We're better off then we were.

This is just because we lose a few and a manager leaving. To protest now would cause more damage to us then waiting until we have a reason to protest. Seriously. Don't do it until you've got a reason to.

Otherwise it looks like the manicness that GMK was all about and if we win a couple of games it'll all be forgot.

A protest now is a stupid idea, more so because you don't really know why you're protesting. You'll ruin the chances of a proper protest if we need one later as well.

Anyroads, don't insult a dyslexic old man for trying his best because I'm a fan like you.

skybluetelford · Mar 25, 2011

Bring back Highfield Road. Getting beat 4-0 at home by Liverpool would be lovely in front of a packed stadium .... better than these wilderness years anyway.

Bobby Peru · Mar 25, 2011

Has it been renamed The Cult of Bipolarity?

Did I miss the memo?

Poor show on the bullying of Larry, too.

Lloyd · Mar 25, 2011

LarryGrayson said:
if most city fans have been unsettled then they should have said so but no no no no easy to come out the woodwork now isnt it

just because someone is unsettled, does not mean that they are not still content to see how games are played out, as i said, this time it was the last straw, i don't get what you're trying to prove though.

Dinyull · Mar 25, 2011

edgy said:
Observer:

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc-sportstory-37684.html

Must be a slow day in the Observer office.

Not having a go but that piece could have been used so much better - website's names dropped, current ideas, asking for people interested in getting something proper started.

To be honest it's probably too early for an article, especially when it tells you nothing other than people are thinking of chanting inside the ground.

But back to pretty much the start - what to people hope to gain out of a protest? Surely with the gates dropping they're aware we're pissed off. They aren't going to leave until someones willing to buy them. They aren't going to spend untill someones willing to invest.

You need to know what you want to achieve before getting a campaign started - Man U's fans wanted the Glaizers to sell to the many suiters showing interest, same with Liverpool. Who realistically will take us over who the club haven't managed to convince so far seeing as they've been trying to sell/bring in investment for over 2 years? Are you going to be happy when a statement is on the club's website saying sorry?!?!?!

The CableGuy · Mar 25, 2011

Anyone has a right to protest, but, I personally think some key points need clarifying before any protest is truly effective:

Why are you protesting?
What is the goal of the protest? What positive and realistic outcome are you hoping to result from the protest?
Who exactly are we protesting against? SISU? Ranson? SISU and Ranson? AB for 1 win in 16? The players?
Where and when would the protest be most effective? In the ground? Outside? Before the game? Half Time? After? At SISU?
What's the best way to protest? Banners? Chants? Sit-down protest? A March?

Dinyull · Mar 25, 2011

Also, with us being in a relegation battle the last thing we need is for the fans to be concentrating their chants towards the board, we need to get behind the players.

See Newcastle United in their relegation season to understand this!!!

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