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Match Thread Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Jan (6 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,121
Given that they have Jesus in their fan base it is all a bit of a shock:

 

jordan210

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,122
ITV have done Bannan dirty haha

 
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hill83

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,123
alexccfc99 said:
"It's not racism per se" - I am first to jump at the hilt to defend our supporters when we get stick, so I am not tarring all their fans with the same brush

But blimey, some Wednesday supporters have really not been helping themselves have they

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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,124
shmmeee said:
Argument makes no sense. If it’s the worst thing to you then you aren’t racist and don’t do it. The people doing monkey chants think it’s the same as flicking the Vs it chanting that you’re a c**t.
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I think he is suggesting, misguided as he is, that the c***s did what they did not because of a hatred towards another race, but rather a hatred towards KP exacerbated by the fact they were losing a game of football?

Whilst I see what he’s saying, the point where he says ‘it’s not racism per se’ just means anything else in his post is nonsense. Of course it’s racist, you’ve got to be another level of stupid to not realise that saying or doing something that is hurtful, upsetting, insulting to someone else because of their race is racist, regardless of situation, intention or sentiment….
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,125
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I think he is suggesting, misguided as he is, that the c***s did what they did not because of a hatred towards another race, but rather a hatred towards KP exacerbated by the fact they were losing a game of football?

Whilst I see what he’s saying, the point where he says ‘it’s not racism per se’ just means anything else in his post is nonsense. Of course it’s racist, you’ve got to be another level of stupid to not realise that saying or doing something that is hurtful, upsetting, insulting to someone else because of their race is racist, regardless of intention or sentiment….
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No I understand the argument and it’s nonsense on its own terms.

I hate player > I think of the worst thing, In my opinion, to say to a player. If I think that’s racism I’m significantly less likely to say it to him because I think it’s abhorrent.

Those who say it think it’s fair game and no different to calling a player a wanker.

It’s like saying you got racist because you were drunk or tired. That’s not how it works. Anger, beer, etc remove filters, they don’t add random bigotry in that isn’t there already.
 
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MAFF

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,126
So fucking depressing seeing the amount cunts on twitter justifying or downplaying just cause KP wound them up.
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,127
@shmmeee

I’ve sent you a private message mate.

All good by the way before anyone panics.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,128
Reading through the thread on Owlstalk. The majority rightly condemn the gestures of their fan yesterday, but some trying to excuse it, making out Palmer was asking for it, etc etc.

I'm intelligent enough to know it was an individual and not the SWFC fanbase as a whole. Similar to the helicopter banners last week. As I said in my earlier post, all teams have twats following them. We certainly have our fair share as I see it home and away every game.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,129
TomRad85 said:
They made things tough for us in all honesty. As I said, it's not a game I enjoyed.

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Yea, I'm sure the pitch had an impact on the game. It became very scrappy. We could have done better in patches too I think. There were a few times they were able to advance 50odd yards unchallenged!
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,130
Fuck me.
 

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stupot07

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,131
torchomatic said:
Fuck me.
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Wtf

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alexccfc99

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,132
torchomatic said:
Fuck me.
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What a way to throw any credibility your podcast may have onto the fire
 
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  • Jan 21, 2024
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torchomatic said:
Reading through the thread on Owlstalk. The majority rightly condemn the gestures of their fan yesterday, but some trying to excuse it, making out Palmer was asking for it, etc etc.

I'm intelligent enough to know it was an individual and not the SWFC fanbase as a whole. Similar to the helicopter banners last week. As I said in my earlier post, all teams have twats following them. We certainly have our fair share as I see it home and away every game.
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Some of the posts on this board aren't exactly edifying, either. Some of the responses to robbiekeane's 'Lazy' thread were... interesting, for sure and there are plenty of other examples, overt and covert, too.

I'd rather City fans weren't thought racist because of a minority of bigots on this forum, and the same should apply for Sheffield Wednesday. Sometimes the silence about it is... unsettling however.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,134
The most disappointing thing for me is I've seen a few comments from Wednesday fans saying that they're not surprised & know who the likely culprits are... Like wtf!? What are they even doing in the stadium in the first place? Has nobody reported them before? Or has the club turned a blind eye?

Let's be clear, it is a very, very small minority, but there have been an awful lot of similar incidents around Wednesday in recent years. The club needs to get a handle on it quickly else I think it's only fair the authorities start looking at points deductions.
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,136
hill83 said:
@shmmeee

I’ve sent you a private message mate.

All good by the way before anyone panics.
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What does “wheatsheaf carpark 8pm” mean?
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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Frostie said:
The most disappointing thing for me is I've seen a few comments from Wednesday fans saying that they're not surprised & know who the likely culprits are... Like wtf!? What are they even doing in the stadium in the first place? Has nobody reported them before? Or has the club turned a blind eye?

Let's be clear, it is a very, very small minority, but there have been an awful lot of similar incidents around Wednesday in recent years. The club needs to get a handle on it quickly else I think it's only fair the authorities start looking at points deductions.
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is it not too late? how many chances do you give them? shall we just wait and see if it happens again before we do anything?

I’d say it’s a minority, but judging by what, or who has come out the woodwork on social media, fans forums and even their podcast, surely it’s not a ‘small’ one.

If the club, or indeed any of their fans, have turned a blind eye they are complicit and some would argue just as bad.

The club need punishing, if only to send a message that this is entirely unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated in any way - there’s no ‘three strikes and you’re out’
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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Football racism: Forfeit matches when fans are racist - Fifa's Infantino

Fifa president Gianni Infantino calls for an automatic forfeit of games for teams whose fans commit racist abuse.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,139
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
is it not too late? how many chances do you give them? shall we just wait and see if it happens again before we do anything?

I’d say it’s a minority, but judging by what, or who has come out the woodwork on social media, fans forums and even their podcast, surely it’s not a ‘small’ one.

If the club, or indeed any of their fans, have turned a blind eye they are complicit and some would argue just as bad.

The club need punishing, if only to send a message that this is entirely unacceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated in any way - there’s no ‘three strikes and you’re out’
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I agree but the FA don't actually have the power to impose points deductions yet but it has to be the next step. The best they can do at the moment if it's repeated incidents is a partial stadium closure.
 

Otis

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,140
hill83 said:
I hope we do
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I think we should.
 

JAM See

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,141
Otis said:
I think we should.
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#metoo
 

Greggs

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,142
jordan210 said:
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Did slowpoke write that for him?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,143
shmmeee said:
What does “wheatsheaf carpark 8pm” mean?
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It means flash your lights once for a handy, twice for a blowy
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,144
Manchester_sky_blue said:
It's not enough now to not be racist, you've got to be actively anti-racist, calling it out wherever you see it, refusing to tolerate it no matter how small and educating where you see ignorance.
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Correct. Only edit would be it’s never been enough
 
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hamertime

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,145
Wednesday always been one of my favourite away fans. But after today i seen them for what they are, racist pieces of shit.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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jordan210 said:
Pretty tragic that sky sports can’t even get basic info right like who palmer plays for

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Sheffield Wednesdays Kasey Palmer? Fuck sake Sky, you're shit. We're probably going to lose another Saturday 3pm game for them to correct it too.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,147
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They were very strong at home last season too, don’t think they lost a game. Especially given that they’re mid table over the last 12 games this was a tough fixture. Pity we have to go back again on Friday really
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They're more interested in survival than a cup run that would push their resources to the limit. We'll be more interested in our league run as well.

It'll be battle of the B teams on Friday.
 

MAFF

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,148
Also has anyone read the thread on the Wednesday forum? It’s a disgrace. So many of them blaming Palmer for enticing the crowd.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,149
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:

Football racism: Forfeit matches when fans are racist - Fifa's Infantino

Fifa president Gianni Infantino calls for an automatic forfeit of games for teams whose fans commit racist abuse.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Bit late for that In this case.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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jordan210 said:
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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MalcSB said:
Bit late for that In this case.
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it’s the kind of stance that is needed though

there was a comment on the Sheff Weds forum about Sheff United fans getting into the ground and getting games forfeited - shows how trivial they think this is
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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not sure if this has been posted some of the abuse palmer got
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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by the way, for anybody who is still using the ‘it’s only one fan, it’s not the club etc lines….

It’s too easy – Darren Moore hails attempts to ‘shut down’ online racist abusers

The Sheffield Wednesday manager and his chairman Dejphon Chansiri have been racially abused on social media in the last week.
www.independent.co.uk
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,154
I never minded Sheffield Wednesday, especially compared to their bellend neighbours. Not sure if I have enough hate in my heart to add another team to the list...
Oh go on then, just one more.

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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
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jordan210 said:

not sure if this has been posted some of the abuse palmer got
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Scum - and the chants of get the b**** off the pitch are definitely after the incident, clear as day there….

that’s a whole stand chanting, after they’ve seen him explain to the ref what happened, and it’s pretty clear what he was saying.

Scum, glad they’ll be gone next season
 
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