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clint van damme

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #176
covcity4life said:
Ooooh clints a ITK now. Think your better than us do you?
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Definitely not mate, an ITK that is.
I know I'm better than you lot!!
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2024
  • #177
Him winning Player’s Player Award should end any debate as to whether he’s been valuable to us this season.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #178
SBT said:
Him winning Player’s Player Award should end any debate as to whether he’s been valuable to us this season.
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Only if being rational comes into it.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2024
  • #179
I'll be amazed if he's still here by the end of the window.
 
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Otis

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #180
clint van damme said:
The bid I was told about was higher.
I'm not going to say much more because of where my info's come from but it does sound to me like he'll be gone.
I'd be happy to be wrong though.
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Why don't you just roll over in the bed, tap Mark on the shoulder and ask him outright?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #181

 
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SBT

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #182
Brighton Sky Blue said:
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The laughing emoji here, “essentially being used as a diversion to avoid making any consessions or sensible debate on the points I've made”
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2024
  • #183
SBT said:
The laughing emoji here, “essentially being used as a diversion to avoid making any consessions or sensible debate on the points I've made”
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The irony there being that not a single person has actually been able to debate my points sensibly whatsoever. Added sprinkle of using the, checks notes, 'players player' award to try and 'end the debate' over an argument point that no one has made either.

Sentence two qualifying sentence one there in literal terms right here on this page. Which beckons, why would I bother further?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #184
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The irony there being that not a single person has actually been able to debate my points sensibly whatsoever. Added sprinkle of using the, checks notes, 'players player' award to try and 'end the debate' over an argument point that no one has made either.

Sentence two qualifying sentence one there in literal terms right here on this page. Which beckons, why would I bother further?
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What the award does show is the value that his teammates think he adds to the team, no?
 
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SBT

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #185
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The irony there being that not a single person has actually been able to debate my points sensibly whatsoever. Added sprinkle of using the, checks notes, 'players player' award to try and 'end the debate' over an argument point that no one has made either.

Sentence two qualifying sentence one there in literal terms right here on this page. Which beckons, why would I bother further?
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His teammates have, by majority, made the case that he’s been the best player in the squad this season - what do you say to them?
 
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djr8369

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #186
I think he’ll be gone. Too many murmurings suggesting he’d like to go higher.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #187
Sheaf will improve beyond recognition if he moves to a premership team with better players around him.
 
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shepardo01

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #188
djr8369 said:
I think he’ll be gone. Too many murmurings suggesting he’d like to go higher.
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He also said it himself and was quoted in the Semi-final programme!
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #189
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The irony there being that not a single person has actually been able to debate my points sensibly whatsoever. Added sprinkle of using the, checks notes, 'players player' award to try and 'end the debate' over an argument point that no one has made either.

Sentence two qualifying sentence one there in literal terms right here on this page. Which beckons, why would I bother further?
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Statistically, he’s one of the best central midfielders in the league in defensive stats and ball progression.

That’s why Prem teams want him.
 
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djr8369

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #190
shepardo01 said:
He also said it himself and was quoted in the Semi-final programme!
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Yep. Pretty clear cut I thought.
 
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Cally Fedora

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2024
  • #191
If Sheaf goes to the Premiership he’ll need to cut out the numerous passes he gives away each game. He won’t get regular games as it’s all about possession.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #192
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What the award does show is the value that his teammates think he adds to the team, no?
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SBT said:
His teammates have, by majority, made the case that he’s been the best player in the squad this season - what do you say to them?
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I never said he didn't have any value to the team or his team-mates. Our perception of how good he is, is the difference here. There are plenty of reasoned arguments why I believe he isn't as strong as some make out, and I have consistently raised these, and they continuously get ignored or deflected. Hence why we're having a conversation about something not relevant to anything I have said at all.

I fully accept I am in the minority with my viewpoint, but I'm afraid the players player award isn't going to be something that is going to change it, so you are looking for arguments where there aren't any.
 
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SBT

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #193
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I never said he didn't have any value to the team or his team-mates. Our perception of how good he is, is the difference here. There are plenty of reasoned arguments why I believe he isn't as strong as some make out, and I have consistently raised these, and they continuously get ignored or deflected. Hence why we're having a conversation about something not relevant to anything I have said at all.

I fully accept I am in the minority with my viewpoint, but I'm afraid the players player award isn't going to be something that is going to change it, so you are looking for arguments where there aren't any.
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I’m confused, are we looking for arguments, or refusing to debate?

The argument that perceptions of Sheaf’s importance are over-inflated are at least somewhat challenged by the fact that his teammates also see him as the squad’s best player, aren’t they? Or are the players guilty of making the same errors in perceiving Sheaf’s impact that most other fans are?

Feel free to ignore it if you don’t want to engage, but it seems like a relevant question in the light of brand new information.
 
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Gint11

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #194
I’d like Sheaf to stay but I also buy into him being at peak of his value and unlikely to sign a new deal. I’d a bid over 15M comes in, I think we should make it happen.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #195
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I never said he didn't have any value to the team or his team-mates. Our perception of how good he is, is the difference here. There are plenty of reasoned arguments why I believe he isn't as strong as some make out, and I have consistently raised these, and they continuously get ignored or deflected. Hence why we're having a conversation about something not relevant to anything I have said at all.

I fully accept I am in the minority with my viewpoint, but I'm afraid the players player award isn't going to be something that is going to change it, so you are looking for arguments where there aren't any.
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I suppose stronger evidence will come as and when he is sold. If he goes to a top flight club for an 8 figure fee, it’s safe to say he must be pretty good, isn’t it?
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #196
He's going west ham I've heard.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #197
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
He's going west ham I've heard.
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Rice replacement. They’d appreciate him there I reckon as well.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #198
shmmeee said:
Rice replacement. They’d appreciate him there I reckon as well.
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Like they appreciated the first manager in decades to win them a trophy?!
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #199
clint van damme said:
Like they appreciated the first manager in decades to win them a trophy?!
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Just seems like a West Ham sort of player.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #200
shmmeee said:
Just seems like a West Ham sort of player.
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Maybe, just thing they've become an entitled fan base with absolutely no justification.
 
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Frostie

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #201
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
He's going west ham I've heard.
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They've had scouts watching him for probably 18 months to 2 years now.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #202
clint van damme said:
Maybe, just thing they've become an entitled fan base with absolutely no justification.
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My connection to their fan base consists of one guy so you might be right.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #203
Frostie said:
They've had scouts watching him for probably 18 months to 2 years now.
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Blimey....maybe my mate is actually not full of shit or on the wind-up this time.....

...he swears blind we're signing Tom Davies too by the way
 

Frostie

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #204
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Blimey....maybe my mate is actually not full of shit or on the wind-up this time.....

...he swears blind we're signing Tom Davies too by the way
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In which case I hope he is full of shit
 
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messiahrobins

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #205
Ccfcisparks said:
Absolute shite
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You ITK then?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #206
messiahrobins said:
You ITK then?
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No but people on here who are have said we have already turned down a bid more than £10m
 
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rob9872

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #207
Hope he's going nowhere but if we're really getting £20m for a holding midfielder when we have Torp, Eccles and get to spend that on 4 x £5m players (including a replacement), then he has to go for him and us. Tbh he's been my favourite player this season and deserves his awards, but the one thing he needs to add is goals. Some of his shooting has been awful.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #208
Cally Fedora said:
If Sheaf goes to the Premiership he’ll need to cut out the numerous passes he gives away each game. He won’t get regular games as it’s all about possession.
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Rarely this season
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #209
rob9872 said:
Hope he's going nowhere but if we're really getting £20m for a holding midfielder when we have Torp, Eccles and get to spend that on 4 x £5m players (including a replacement), then he has to go for him and us. Tbh he's been my favourite player this season and deserves his awards, but the one thing he needs to add is goals. Some of his shooting has been awful.
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Scores one worldly then spends the rest of the season failing to recreate it the DMs curse.

I suspect it’ll be more like £15m, but £20m would do some serious damage. £4m each on CB CM AM LB then £2m each on a ST and a GK. Add in a couple of experienced frees at CB and CM and a loan at RW and that’s pretty much us for the season IMO. Any Vik or Gus cash is a bonus.

GK
MvE Thomas CB LB
CM Eccles
Saka AM Wright
Simms

Collins, Lats, Dasilva, CB, Kitching, Torp, CM, Palmer, Allen, RW, EMC, ST, Tavares, Burroughs for subs.

Honestly think that’s a top four squad.

And i think that second string beats most L1 and below sides in the cup.
 
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Diogenes

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  • May 6, 2024
  • #210
shmmeee said:
My connection to their fan base consists of one guy so you might be right.
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They've always been cunts
 
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