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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #211
TomRad85 said:
But would you be OK with it, if the teacher was arrested for a hate crime?

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The teacher as far as I know hasn’t been arrested.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #212
skybluetony176 said:
Do you know what. I ain’t bothered. I don’t know why a teacher would want to show one to a classroom though. If for no other reason than it was easier not to. All he had to say was that images of Muhammad is considered blasphemy in Islam. Job done, that’s religious education. Not satisfied with that this teacher actively looked for a cartoon image, must have stumbled across how controversial a subject it is given how the two are linked and at no point thought to themselves I better not do that. I’d question that teachers ability to be a teacher.

The rest of your post is just a straw man argument of imagination land of what I may or not think. Hardly the basis for a discussion.
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The lesson was on intolerance not blasphemy
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #213
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The lesson was on intolerance not blasphemy
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I never said it was on blasphemy. Still doesn’t explain why the teacher ever thought it was a good idea.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #214
Evo1883 said:
For the record, I just don't ever recall seeing Hindus or Sikhs being a pain in the arse about pretty much anything
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Other than in Pakistan and India in 1948
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #215
skybluetony176 said:
I never said it was on blasphemy. Still doesn’t explain why the teacher ever thought it was a good idea.
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Presumably for the same reasons that French teacher did. How long would you put him away for?
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #216
skybluetony176 said:
The teacher as far as I know hasn’t been arrested.
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Not the question I asked tbf.

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Evo1883

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #217
Sky Blue Pete said:
Other than in Pakistan and India in 1948
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OK Pete , other than in 1948
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #218
Sky Blue Pete said:
Other than in Pakistan and India in 1948
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It was only a couple of years ago there was an amendment to the law so Sikh’s could carry kirpans without fear of prosecution. Just last year a book had to be withdrawn from the classrooms following protests from Hindus. Also last year Christians protested when a school introduced Yoga classes.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #219
Evo1883 said:
OK Pete , other than in 1948
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I do agree about my Sikh and Hindu friends for many years but I have to sayI have as many Muslim brothers in work who are quite wonderful people who are people of outstanding character
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #220
Sky Blue Pete said:
I do agree although I have as many Muslim brothers in work who are quite wonderful people
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Living where I live I’ve had the pleasure of living around people of all races and religions. It’s really interesting learning about their culture and how they go about life so differently to us
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #221
TomRad85 said:
Not the question I asked tbf.

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Yeah but the question you asked is an imaginary situation.
The teacher hasn’t been arrested and neither has their been any suggestion that they will be as far as I know.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #222
skybluetony176 said:
Yeah but the question you asked is an imaginary situation.
The teacher hasn’t been arrested and neither has their been any suggestion that they will be as far as I know.
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How long should he be in prison for his 'hate crime'?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #223
Ccfcisparks said:
Living where I live I’ve had the pleasure of living around people of all races and religions. It’s really interesting learning about their culture and how they go about life so differently to us
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And yet in most ways are exactly the same.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #224
skybluetony176 said:
And yet in most ways are exactly the same.
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We all eat, shit and pay taxes. You’re right there.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #225
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How long should he be in prison for his 'hate crime'?
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Who’s said it’s a hate crime? Not me. Not the police.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #226
It’s quite clear that some people on this thread are as irrational as the people protesting at the gates of the school.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #227
skybluetony176 said:
Who’s said it’s a hate crime? Not me. Not the police.
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Confusing. I mean it's clear you think he should be sacked, would you stop there? How about those sharing his address and contacts?
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #228
skybluetony176 said:
It’s quite clear that some people on this thread are as irrational as the people protesting at the gates of the school.
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Yes having a pretty tame discussion on a football forum is exactly the same as gathering outside a school to intimidate and force your beliefs upon people.

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mrtrench

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #229
skybluetony176 said:
It’s quite clear that some people on this thread are as irrational as the people protesting at the gates of the school.
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Then delete your posts.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #230
Sky Blue Pete said:
Other than in Pakistan and India in 1948
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A lot of fuss about Hindu nationalism in India at the moment. Modi shut down tanneries in what many see as an attack on Indian Muslims (clearly Hindus cannot work there).

I'm not a big fan of judging people in groups. I like how most people behave and I dislike how some others do. Muslims aren't terrorists; it's just that some terrorists are Muslims. Other terrorists are Christians; Atheists... It's the terrorist thing that's bad, not the religion.

Still not up for any religion trying to tell non-believers what they can do though.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #231
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Confusing. I mean it's clear you think he should be sacked, would you stop there? How about those sharing his address and contacts?
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Is it? I questioned his thinking, that’s all. Those sharing his address and contacts should be dealt with by the law.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #232
Evo1883 said:
OK Pete , other than in 1948
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are you on about the UK or in general?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #233
mrtrench said:
Then delete your posts.
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On what basis? Maybe the posts that accused me of wanting to be everything from sacked to charged with hate crimes should be deleted. Afterall, I have quite clearly not either said or intimidated either of those things.
Like I said. Irrational.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #234
skybluetony176 said:
Unlikely but it does raise the question of halal meat. Many non Muslims refuse to eat it or get angry about the prospect of eating it. Just to prove irrationality exists on both sides of the argument.
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It's not irrational. It's absolutely barbaric and cruel.

I haven't eaten meat for almost 3 years now, and I wouldn't again. Doesn't mean I want to stop everyone else, but the treatment of animals is a disgrace.

Also, if you think free speech is dangerous. Try living somewhere where there isn't any.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #235
skybluetony176 said:
On what basis? Maybe the posts that accused me of wanting to be everything from sacked to charged with hate crimes should be deleted. Afterall, I have quite clearly not either said or intimidated either of those things.
Like I said. Irrational.
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FFS learn the difference between intimate and intimidate!
 
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mrtrench

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #236
skybluetony176 said:
On what basis? Maybe the posts that accused me of wanting to be everything from sacked to charged with hate crimes should be deleted. Afterall, I have quite clearly not either said or intimidated either of those things.
Like I said. Irrational.
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Tony, we're being unfair to you. We should give you more time. Get in touch with Woke HQ, find out what you're supposed to think and get back to us when you've been told your opinion.

What I will say is that we ever met and you were being unfairly attacked, verbally or physically, I would stand up for you - even in the knowledge that you'd have me arrested for a non-crime hate incident under the same circumstances.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #237
Brighton Sky Blue said:
FFS learn the difference between intimate and intimidate!
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Tbf to Big Tone here, predictive text tripped me up there too, but the other way round.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #238
TomRad85 said:
Tbf to Big Tone here, predictive text tripped me up there too, but the other way round.

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Beats reading schoolkids write about atoms that 'lose elections'. Explains why they were coloured in red I suppose.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #239
TomRad85 said:
Yes having a pretty tame discussion on a football forum is exactly the same as gathering outside a school to intimate and force your beliefs upon people.

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I don’t think anyone is trying to convert them to Islam.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #240
Guys stop dissing the Tonester
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #241
skybluetony176 said:
I don’t think anyone is trying to convert them to Islam.
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Again, not what i said.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #242
Grendel said:
Guys stop dissing the Tonester
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Latest scenes from Batley as Tony joins the protest

 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #243
mrtrench said:
Whataboutery and the strawman manouevre in one sentence. Impressive.
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Think you’ve missed the point here. I think the whole episode here is absurd from start to finish. Your reference to ‘social justice warrior’ is too because it’s irrelevant.

Instead of parents/religious leaders kicking up a stink...if they were really serious about the issue then they’d send someone from the local Muslim community into school to explain and educate as to why it was deemed offensive, and it wouldn’t have needed to go any further.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #244
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's not irrational. It's absolutely barbaric and cruel.

I haven't eaten meat for almost 3 years now, and I wouldn't again. Doesn't mean I want to stop everyone else, but the treatment of animals is a disgrace.

Also, if you think free speech is dangerous. Try living somewhere where there isn't any.
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It’s no more barbaric than any slaughter of meat. You just don’t have what goes on in abattoirs rammed down your throat like you are when it comes to halal meat.

Free speech is not free of consequences, such as the right to be offended from that free speech. You could also argue that the protesters are also demonstrating they’re right to free speech.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 27, 2021
  • #245
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Latest scenes from Batley as Tony joins the protest

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I’m not joining any protest.
 
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