Rushworth or Wilson (3 Viewers)

[Samo]

It seems to me that our fanbase expects a keeper who never concedes.

 

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[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

We need to sell or release Wilson so we stop people pining over a below average keeper.

Rushworth has made a couple of errors but if you can’t see the confidence he inspires in the defence then you’re blind. He’ll come good and this post will look stupid.

 

[skybluecam]

Rushworth is miles better with the ball at his feet.

Shouldn't even be a question at this point. Chopping and changing keepers just destroys their confidence.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

It was smart yesterday to have the strikers shooting at Collins in the warm up they must have been full of confidence with everything going in.

To answer the question Rushworth

 

[Speedie's Head]

Rushworth is miles better with the ball at his feet.

But not with his foot on the ball apparently Interestingly (?) I noticed the Arsenal keeper has the same habit too. It's maybe something coming from the 8 second rule?

 

[CCFC96]

Rushworth looks like a solid champ keeper (eg. Infinitely better than Wilson), I’d personally replace him with Dovin when Dovin is ready rather than spend £5-6m on him to have him permanently.

 

[EalingSB]

Rushworth was at fault for their goal but I don’t think anyone has mentioned (I think) Brau who completely lost his man and the header for the assist. Also a needless foul by Kitching.

 

[Captain Dart]

It was smart yesterday to have the strikers shooting at Collins in the warm up they must have been full of confidence with everything going in.

To answer the question Rushworth

I always watch the strikers shooting in the warm ups, City and the opposition.
Haji was slotting every shot into a corner, looked sharp as he was in the match.
Varane (he with the long frizzy hair) on the other hand blasted at least one over.

 

[itsabuzzard]

It was smart yesterday to have the strikers shooting at Collins in the warm up they must have been full of confidence with everything going in.

To answer the question Rushworth

Were they using live rounds?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Were they using live rounds?

If they were he would still be alive as he didn’t get near anything

 

[StrettoBoy]

I reckon that, until Dovin returns, Rushworth is our best option although Wilson is decent enough. The least said about Collins the better.

 

[DT-R]

The mistakes rushworth makes are experience related not fundamental goalkeeping ones like with Collins and Wilson, especially yesterday which was all down to poor decision making. He will only snuff those kind of things out by playing (and even then will probably get some things wrong).

He is a good keeper. Again with the goal yesterday as well multiple things we could have done better. Kitching could have not tried to go and get revenge for Bobby and take three swipes at a player for a free kick in a stupid area for one.

Blaming Kitching for what was a meat and drink ball for a GK to claim free kick?

He gets a certain amount of "new boy credit" and will evade criticism from most for a while, but that cross i would expect Sunday league GKs to collect, let alone somebody who "instills so much confidence in the defence".

In a game where the goal wasnt threatened, he managed to concede a goal. It didnt matter as we were already 7-0 up, but in a few weeks time it could be at 0-0 in the 90+ minutes and we end up losing. An error is an error, regardless of the scoreline. As we finished 7-1 a lot are glossing over it, had that been the losing goal, how many would still hold those views?

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[DT-R]

Wilson has consistently proven he is not of the required level. Rushworth has to have time to settle in but I don’t doubt when he does he will be a very good keeper.

One of the errors Robins made last season was constantly chopping and changing keepers to the point no one had confidence and none had any relationship with the back 4

Consistently proven he's not at the level? The same level where he won the golden gloves in just over half a season?

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[Evo1883]

Consistently proven he's not at the level? The same level where he won the golden gloves in just over half a season?

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I reckon you or I would have won the golden glove that year tbh .. defence played a huge part

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Crazy that no other team at this level has come in for Wilson considering he’s not been first choice here since he won that Golden Glove. Would have thought someone else would have leapt at the opportunity to sign such a top class keeper who must be itching to play.

 

[DT-R]

I reckon you or I would have won the golden glove that year tbh .. defence played a huge part

If the golden glove was down to the defence, then that means the defence played well and freely. Meaning they must've had confidence in their keeper? Which debunks the argument Rushworth is better because the defence has no confidence in Wilson?

It won't take many more clangers from Rushworth til the defence loses confidence in him too. Pre-season, Derby, and a game v QPR where QPR didnt even look like scoring so far. Thats 3 fuck ups every 4 games so far! Wilson and Collins would be getting dogs abuse and I can guarantee there wouldn't be a single person defending them had either started the season in the same manner

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[Evo1883]

If the golden glove was down to the defence, then that means the defence played well and freely. Meaning they must've had confidence in their keeper? Which debunks the argument Rushworth is better because the defence has no confidence in Wilson?

It won't take many more clangers from Rushworth til the defence loses confidence in him too. Pre-season, Derby, and a game v QPR where QPR didnt even look like scoring so far. Thats 3 fuck ups every 4 games so far! Wilson and Collins would be getting dogs abuse and I can guarantee there wouldn't be a single person defending them had either started the season in the same manner

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In terms of the league matches , im not sure I agree they are clangers at all ... the free kick at derby was exceptional i doubt any of our other keepers were getting to that .


Nobody cares about a pass in pre season

 

[DT-R]

In terms of the league matches , im not sure I agree they are clangers at all ... the free kick at derby was exceptional i doubt any of our other keepers were getting to that .


Nobody cares about a pass in pre season because it wasn't Wilson or Collins.

Corrected that for you

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[Evo1883]

Corrected that for you

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Do you honestly care about a misplaced pass in pre season ?

 

[DT-R]

Do you honestly care about a misplaced pass in pre season ?

Would ypu be here defending Wilson or Collins making the same pass in the same game?

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[Evo1883]

Would ypu be here defending Wilson or Collins making the same pass in the same game?

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Its pre season , im not arsed

 

[Lamps]

Blaming Kitching for what was a meat and drink ball for a GK to claim free kick?

He gets a certain amount of "new boy credit" and will evade criticism from most for a while, but that cross i would expect Sunday league GKs to collect, let alone somebody who "instills so much confidence in the defence".

In a game where the goal wasnt threatened, he managed to concede a goal. It didnt matter as we were already 7-0 up, but in a few weeks time it could be at 0-0 in the 90+ minutes and we end up losing. An error is an error, regardless of the scoreline. As we finished 7-1 a lot are glossing over it, had that been the losing goal, how many would still hold those views?

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That free kick was a total fluke scored by a 30 year old player scoring only his 4th ever goal in professional football. The only way a GK would have got to that is if he was standing close to the far post and it still wouldn't have been easy. Do you think Wilson would have saved it?

By the time QPR scored we were just cruising along saving ourselves. We hadn't scored for nearly 20 minutes. We had subbed off some of our best players. Something to learn from.

Rushworth has saved us more than he's cost us. His handling has been good. His quick distribution at times has been very good. I know i wouldn't be saying this about Wilson.

 

[Grendel]

In terms of the league matches , im not sure I agree they are clangers at all ... the free kick at derby was exceptional i doubt any of our other keepers were getting to that .


Nobody cares about a pass in pre season

Ben Wilson certainly wouldn’t

 

[Grendel]

If the golden glove was down to the defence, then that means the defence played well and freely. Meaning they must've had confidence in their keeper? Which debunks the argument Rushworth is better because the defence has no confidence in Wilson?

It won't take many more clangers from Rushworth til the defence loses confidence in him too. Pre-season, Derby, and a game v QPR where QPR didnt even look like scoring so far. Thats 3 fuck ups every 4 games so far! Wilson and Collins would be getting dogs abuse and I can guarantee there wouldn't be a single person defending them had either started the season in the same manner

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Your defeating your own argument.

Brighton wouldn’t sell him for £5m - Wilson wouldn’t attract any fee or any interest as first choice at this level.

Lee Burge had a golden glove - he’s bumbling around at Northampton.

 

[Evo1883]

Ben Wilson certainly wouldn’t

Collins especially cost us many many points

 

[TomRad85]

CCFC - *playing Champions League with Donnarumma in goal in 3 years*

Random forum Wilson dick rider - "But is he actually better than Wilson? What about the Golden Glove?"

 

[skybluegod]

Blaming Kitching for what was a meat and drink ball for a GK to claim free kick?

He gets a certain amount of "new boy credit" and will evade criticism from most for a while, but that cross i would expect Sunday league GKs to collect, let alone somebody who "instills so much confidence in the defence".

In a game where the goal wasnt threatened, he managed to concede a goal. It didnt matter as we were already 7-0 up, but in a few weeks time it could be at 0-0 in the 90+ minutes and we end up losing. An error is an error, regardless of the scoreline. As we finished 7-1 a lot are glossing over it, had that been the losing goal, how many would still hold those views?

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Where did I blame Kitching?

With any goal there are contributing factors that being one of them. What I was doing is proving their are multiple ways that goal could have been prevented and your captain not being am idiot is one of them. Of course Rushworth should have done better with the goal, that is obvious.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Some of you are already missing a lot of what Rushworth is doing because it is so simple.
He stepped out 3 or 4 yards off his line and cut out a cross on Saturday. It was only 4 ft off the ground and looked innocuous, but it meant the ball never reached the danger area.
Both Wilson and Collins would have been standing on the line waiting to see where the ball went.
Look for the times he just reaches out and catches the ball instead of flapping at it,or backing away from it. Then you will see the difference between him and them.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Sorry guys…. I was wrong, Wilson should have saved that

 

[steve101]

I don't mind Wilson as a back up but had little to do tonight and that wasn't great. Rushworth has looked dubious from crosses but he is young and improving and is much better than the alternative.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Rushworth is a big step up.

 

[Nick]

Second goal tonight Wilson should have done better. First one would be a push to say it was an easy save but could have got closer.

 

[steve101]

Second goal tonight Wilson should have done better. First one would be a push to say it was an easy save but could have got closer.

I think he should have saved it. He was slow getting down to it. It wasn't out of his reach. However wasn't helped by poor defending.

 

[rexo87]

Why did Wilson half try and save the first one, then pull out of it to shout at someone? He’s a really poor keeper, not quite as bad as Brad, but not a whole lot better

 

[Lamps]

2 shots on target 2 goals. The story of last season once Dovin got injured.

Can we stop playing silly games where we try to make out Wilson is good enough for us and underplaying how good Rushworth is?