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Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (2 Viewers)

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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,866
SISU were/are successful business people. Fucked the club up though. Running a football club is not the same as running a business.
 
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Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,867
covcity4life said:
and after 3 years we would be free of sisu once and for all.

gh has also said they have funds to invest themselves so he must think he can cover the immediate future where they make concessions to sisu

hes a successfull businessman, doubt hes being stupid about this.
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He (and Elliott) was on the board and responsible for wasting the best opportunity this club have had in 10 years. He may not be stupid, but his track record at the club does not give me any confidence.
 
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Sub

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,868
Godiva said:
He (and Elliott) was on the board and responsible for wasting the best opportunity this club have had in 10 years. He may not be stupid, but his track record at the club does not give me any confidence.
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and SISU record does ??
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,869
Godiva said:
He (and Elliott) was on the board and responsible for wasting the best opportunity this club have had in 10 years. He may not be stupid, but his track record at the club does not give me any confidence.
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Of course it doesn't
 
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covcity4life

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,870
Godiva said:
He (and Elliott) was on the board and responsible for wasting the best opportunity this club have had in 10 years. He may not be stupid, but his track record at the club does not give me any confidence.
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im all for taking the risk. at worst it will be as bad as sisu. with better communication and at least a will to try and be better
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,871
Frankly, if we went back to how we were under Sisu when Hoffman and Ranson were here it'd be a massive improvement.
 
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Godiva

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,872
shmmeee said:
Frankly, if we went back to how we were under Sisu when Hoffman and Ranson were here it'd be a massive improvement.
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But we can't because Hoffman, Ranson and Elliott spend all the money. They started the journey that led us here. We need a different direction.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,873
shmmeee said:
Frankly, if we went back to how we were under Sisu when Hoffman and Ranson were here it'd be a massive improvement.
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Bring back the geezer with the long name.
 

blueflint

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,874
Godiva said:
But we can't because Hoffman, Ranson and Elliott spend all the money. They started the journey that led us here. We need a different direction.
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no they didn't it was SISU losing faith and cutting costs under them selling players etc that took us here but it all
started even before that
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,875
blueflint said:
no they didn't it was SISU losing faith and cutting costs under them selling players etc that took us here but it all
started even before that
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Why did they start to cut costs Einstein? They clearly didn't really cut costs anyway, as the judge in JR1 pointed out.
 
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quinn1971

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,876
Just a thought but,could it be no matter what Deal Hoffman offers sisu they won't deal with him, don't think there's any love lost between them and maybe that's the reason sisu aren't interested in selling, maybe our best hope is now that sisu haven't come out with their usual " the clubs not for sale " line somebody other than Hoffman steps in
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,877
There's only one
Onyechinaeduanaghaefuuzo Nnatuwereugo IGWE
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,878
Does anybody have any idea what the problem between Joy and Hoffman is?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,879
SkyBlueZack said:
Does anybody have any idea what the problem between Joy and Hoffman is?
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Bagged or unbagged tea.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,880
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bagged or unbagged tea.
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He bagged her? Or tea bagged her?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,881
Godiva said:
But we can't because Hoffman, Ranson and Elliott spend all the money. They started the journey that led us here. We need a different direction.
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You are talking absolute bollox you clown
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,882
rupert_bear said:
You are talking absolute bollox you clown
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Please explain more.
 

bezzer

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,883
italiahorse said:
So no one is saying the Hoffman bid is not enough ?
No one is saying he should put the full value in from day one ?
It's only a few I know but they are there.
I want him to continue trying but we need to all get behind him if he does.
Any negativity towards him will dilute his efforts and make Sisu believe they have a case.
We need to be 100% behind his efforts and 100% behind getting Sisu out.
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For once I agree with everything you say!!
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,884
SkyBlueZack said:
SISU were/are successful business people. Fucked the club up though. Running a football club is not the same as running a business.
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I agree that SISU have failed in their involvement in the club BUT, the club IS a business WHICH requires sector specific detailed knowledge and capability and this is where they are woefully weak.
 
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wingy

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,885
Godiva said:
But we can't because Hoffman, Ranson and Elliott spend all the money. They started the journey that led us here. We need a different direction.
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Who really spent it?
The managers permitted by Ranson, who had his own agenda.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,886
CONSPIRACY THEORY

Ranson is behind the new consortium.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,887
Liquid Gold said:
CONSPIRACY THEORY

Ranson is behind the new consortium.
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Well he has the hedge fund credentials...
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,888
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well he has the hedge fund credentials...
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I once threw 11 2 pence pieces at a hedge. Do I have hedge fund credentials?
 
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Godiva

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,889
blueflint said:
no they didn't it was SISU losing faith and cutting costs under them selling players etc that took us here but it all
started even before that
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In Ransons first interview as chairman he said they had three goal - first to stabilize the finances, next to achieve promotion to PL and third to secure a stake in the Ricoh.
They failed securing the finances and subsequently failed at everything else.
 
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Godiva

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,890
Liquid Gold said:
I once threw 11 2 pence pieces at a hedge. Do I have hedge fund credentials?
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Only if it was someone else's money you threw ...
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,891
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out and forgive me if they have but I was wondering could their be a possibility that SISU may be in talks or maybe dealing with the Australian consortium hence the reasons they are not talking to Hoffman or even entertaining any of his bids?

They seem quiet recently.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,892
Sky Blue Dal said:
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out and forgive me if they have but I was wondering could their be a possibility that SISU may be in talks or maybe dealing with the Australian consortium hence the reasons they are not talking to Hoffman or even entertaining any of his bids?

They seem quiet recently.
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Australians are never quiet. Shouting and laughing at full volume everywhere you find them. Bastards.
 
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jackdg

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,893
Deleted member 5849 said:
There's only one
Onyechinaeduanaghaefuuzo Nnatuwereugo IGWE
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Give me an 'O', Give me an 'n'.......
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,894
We need a clean break or the CT comment section will still be using the "money is going to SISU and their lawyers" excuse to avoid going to games
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,895
italiahorse said:
So no one is saying the Hoffman bid is not enough ?
No one is saying he should put the full value in from day one ?
It's only a few I know but they are there.
I want him to continue trying but we need to all get behind him if he does.
Any negativity towards him will dilute his efforts and make Sisu believe they have a case.
We need to be 100% behind his efforts and 100% behind getting Sisu out.
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Blind faith got us into this mess in the first place. Any questions wont affect SISU at all. A good leader interacts with the rest of the group and is not scared of questions, uses it to make the group stronger

That is not to say GH is not best for CCFC only that I want to know what we are getting into.

Eyes wide open not wide shut

Who isn't 100% SISU out
 
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hutch1972

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,896
SkyBlueZack said:
SISU were/are successful business people. Fucked the club up though. Running a football club is not the same as running a business.
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It is if you have "football people" involved with the board. Sisu ( from memory ) have never had such people ( RR aside).
All clubs now are primarily ran as a business , but you can't lose its heart and soul , that I'm afraid, is exactly what has happened here.
 
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italiahorse

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,897
oldskyblue58 said:
Blind faith got us into this mess in the first place. Any questions wont affect SISU at all. A good leader interacts with the rest of the group and is not scared of questions, uses it to make the group stronger

That is not to say GH is not best for CCFC only that I want to know what we are getting into.

Eyes wide open not wide shut

Who isn't 100% SISU out
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100% Sisu out = Blind faith, surely ?
 
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Monners

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,898
oldskyblue58 said:
Blind faith got us into this mess in the first place. Any questions wont affect SISU at all. A good leader interacts with the rest of the group and is not scared of questions, uses it to make the group stronger

That is not to say GH is not best for CCFC only that I want to know what we are getting into.

Eyes wide open not wide shut

Who isn't 100% SISU out
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Perhaps being more in the public eye of is own choosing is the start of that (I don't know, just a thought)
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,899
italiahorse said:
100% Sisu out = Blind faith, surely ?
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No for me its based on pretty damning evidence not blind faith at all. I don't know anyone who doesn't want SISU out equally I do not know or have met anyone who can achieve it
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2017
  • #4,900
oldskyblue58 said:
I don't know anyone who doesn't want SISU out
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Something tells me that would also include Tim Fisher and Joy Seppala!
 
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