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Match Thread Rotherham United FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 25th Oct (11 Viewers)

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slowpoke

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #1,996
Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #1,997
slowpoke said:
Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.
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"3 cheers for Rotherham"

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Tommo1993

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #1,998
They only started playing when they realised we posed as much threat as a basket of newly born kittens.

If we’d have backed off immediately from KO such as Bristol and Rotherham, we’d have been annihilated. But good old Coventry City, gift them all you like, they’ll do nothing about it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #1,999
TomRad85 said:
"3 cheers for Rotherham"

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‘I tell you if Rathbone don’t win player of the season there’s no justice’
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,000
Frostie said:
MR has always wanted us to dominate the ball but has been pragmatic enough to change it up as needed.

His argument, probably rightly, is that style of football is more sustainable long-term but we're clearly struggling massively with it at the moment.

I was fully behind the Hadji Wright signing because, stylistically, he wasn't massively dissimilar to Gyokeres. We have then completely pivoted away from the style of play that would suit him...
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That's my big gripe, he hasn't brought in players to dominate the ball, yet changes style.

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stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,001
fernandopartridge said:
Robins' pragmatic side usually appears in these moments so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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It usually comes when theres an injury that forces him into a decision to be fair.

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stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,002
PVA said:
Dasilva had 1.3 xA last night. Bidwell had about 3.1 for the whole of last season.

Dasilva had 14 shot creating actions last night, next most was Sheaf with 10 and then Ayari with 5.

He made more passes than anyone and more progressive passes.

He was poor in the second half and had a little spell where he was all over the shop. But pretty much everything went through him last night and he's the least of our worries right now.
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He had xA of 5.93 last season which put him in the 70th percentile 0.15 per 90 mins. He got 4 assists and a goal last season.

For context

Palmer 0.17 per 90 mins
Allen 0.12 per 90 mins
Sheaf 0.15 per 90 mins

Last season Dasilva had xA of 0.12, the season before that 0.16. It is higher his season currently at 0.20 but we are playing different style of football, with 2 strikers with more options in the box.

He isn't massively more attacking than Bidwell. And the difference in quality between the two is negligible, they just have different playing styles and strengths.

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PVA

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,003
stupot07 said:
He had xA of 5.93 last season which put him in the 70th percentile 0.15 per 90 mins. He got 4 assists and a goal last season.

For context

Palmer 0.17 per 90 mins
Allen 0.12 per 90 mins
Sheaf 0.15 per 90 mins

Last season Dasilva had xA of 0.12, the season before that 0.16. It is higher his season currently at 0.20 but we are playing different style of football, with 2 strikers with more options in the box.

He isn't massively more attacking than Bidwell. And the difference in quality between the two is negligible, they just have different playing styles and strengths.

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Not sure where you're getting your stats from, I have Dasilva's numbers the same as yours but Bidwell's are way off that where I'm looking (fbref.com).

It shows Bidwell as xA of 2.5 for last season.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,004
slowpoke said:
He earns money playing football I’d guess more than you have ever done
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Yes he has and point well made if I was mocking him, I was offering an opinion that Grenada are probably not Championship level (or better!) as you claimed
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,005
slowpoke said:
I reckon most the opponents Jamaica play are better than most if not all championship teams
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,006
slowpoke said:
I reckon most the opponents Jamaica play are better than most if not all championship teams
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for reference, Jamaica's last 10 opponents...

Jordan
United States
Trinidad and Tobago
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Guatemala
Mexico
Honduras
Haiti
Grenada
Haiti
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,007
Get rid of him then
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,008
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes he has and point well made if I was mocking him, I was offering an opinion that Grenada are probably not Championship level (or better!) as you claimed
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We should never have let Onandi Lowe leave
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,009
slowpoke said:
Get rid of him then
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I’ve found a course what might be useful for you Rupert

Reading 101: Self-Paced Learning Modules
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,010
PVA said:
Not sure where you're getting your stats from, I have Dasilva's numbers the same as yours but Bidwell's are way off that where I'm looking (fbref.com).

It shows Bidwell as xA of 2.5 for last season.
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I got them from here

https://footystats.org/players/england/jake-bidwell



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SBAndy

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,011
Martin180 said:
Hindsight is great isn't it ? I think Da Silva has been ok for what it's worth , he's technically sound and has a lot of ability on the ball . What he hasn't delivered so far is decent crosses on a regular basis which has been disappointing
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Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,012
SkyBlueMatt said:
I'm struggling to believe we had 66% possession last night, that can't be right.
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Once you realise ‘possession’ is just number of passes completed it makes more sense.
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,013
skybluecam said:
for reference, Jamaica's last 10 opponents...

Jordan
United States
Trinidad and Tobago
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Guatemala
Mexico
Honduras
Haiti
Grenada
Haiti
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If you go through the current squads for those teams on Wikipedia, you realise how dumb slowpoke's comment was.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,014
napolimp said:
If you go through the current squads for those teams on Wikipedia, you realise how dumb slowpoke's comment was.
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One of them is a team even Haji Wright can’t get into
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,015
shmmeee said:
One of them is a team even Haji Wright can’t get into
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Wright can't get into this team at the moment.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,016
SBAndy said:
Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.
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He has the same number of assists as Bidwell had at this stage last season. A lot of the complaints seem overblown to me.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,017
SBAndy said:
Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.
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Did he play the ball in for Simms' shot in the first half?
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,018
fernandopartridge said:
Did he play the ball in for Simms' shot in the first half?
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No that was Fadz.

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,019
stupot07 said:
No that was Fadz.

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Are you sure about that?
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,020
slowpoke said:
Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.
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Rotherham were shit.

It is worrying me a bit that MR keeps talking about missed chances and not how poor our performance was generally.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,021
Deleted member 9744 said:
Are you sure about that?
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100%. Dasilva was on the half way line. Here's Fadz crossing the ball.


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slowpoke

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,022
skybluecam said:
Rotherham were shit.

It is worrying me a bit that MR keeps talking about missed chances and not how poor our performance was generally.
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They were better than us on the day.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 27, 2023
  • #2,023
stupot07 said:
100%. Dasilva was on the half way line. Here's Fadz crossing the ball.


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Strange place for McFadzean to be
 
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