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Match Thread Rotherham United FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 25th Oct (13 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,716
Evo1883 said:
Gave you some great times Nick, similar age to me , and all you do is moan about subs wether he makes them or not

So yes .. really

And struggling is not really a term I'd use for a team closer to the playoffs points wise than relegation
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14 places off the former and 2 off the latter
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,717
Evo1883 said:
Gave upu some great times Nick, similar age to me , and all you do is moan about subs , wether he makes them or not
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I point out his failure to be able to really change games during them and have done so since League 2. He now doesn't have the "hands tied" excuse.

Am I wrong?

He has watched Eccles float over 30 corners in over the last 2 games and has done fuck all to try and change it.
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,718
Nick said:
I am fine.

Just to put it out there, Kitching cost more than Hamer and Gyo combined.

Not sure why people are so desperate to justify how shit our spending has been.
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I think you're missing the point, we're comparing the team Robins had at the end of last season - just before Vik and Gus were sold - to the team Robins has now. This team - value wise according to purchase and sale price - is worth £15 mil less than that team. So essentially he should have a worse team on his hands now. Also add to the fact that he had multiple loan signings, which were worth a lot combined, so you would also have to add that onto the value of the team towards the end of last season. We're not comparing this team to when Gus and Vik were first signed on permanent deals. If you're going to go down that road then at least be accurate about it.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,719
Seemed for the first goal, I was wondering why Eccles and Godden were marking, runners, I mean the guy actually knows th it runs to make, were our defenders marking space again?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,720
Nick said:
I point out his failure to be able to really change games during them and have done so since League 2. He now doesn't have the "hands tied" excuse.

Am I wrong?
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Which has been pointed out many time to you are wrong , we scored a silly amount of late goals in a couple of seasons .. there's a stupid amount of matches we've won late , drew etc .. you got annoyed by his subs tonight despite them being totally against the grain
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,721
CovPusb85 said:
Kitching should be starting, he’s exactly the type of defender we need…..he’s a leader and aggressive
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I agree and I think he will come in , Binks has been playing well enough to keep his place
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,722
Evo1883 said:
Which has been pointed out many time to you are wrong , we scored a silly amount of late goals in a couple of seasons .. there's a stupid amount of matches we've won late , drew etc .. you got annoyed by his subs tonight despite them being totally against the grain
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We haven’t won from behind for 18 months.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,723

We're a game away from this bouncing around the Ricoh
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,724
SeaSeeEffCee said:
We haven’t won from behind for 18 months.
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How many games ?

Also worth pointing out if we've lost a game in the last 5 minutes that also counts as not winning from behind
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,725
Evo1883 said:
Which has been pointed out many time to you are wrong , we scored a silly amount of late goals in a couple of seasons .. there's a stupid amount of matches we've won late , drew etc .. you got annoyed by his subs tonight despite them being totally against the grain
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I got annoyed that he waited far too long to try something.

You are missing the point, how many of those are down to Robins changing things or reacting during games? Granted, there will be a couple but the lack of reaction or ability to think on the spot and change things has cost us more than it has gained us.

We are seeing now without somebody like Gyo and Hamer scoring / assisting we don't realy have much going on.

Saturday saw the "dinosaur" Nigel Pearson completely nullify us with a change and Robins didn't try anything until the last minute.
Tonight it took 20 minutes for a reaction and then it was pretty much too late.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,726
I’m going to stick my neck out for some Hudlin style abuse:

Sign Glen Rae on a trial / short term basis (29, released by Luton but signed non-contract with Worthing the other day for match fitness (I think I’m right in saying that he can still sign for us? Anyone know?))

We are short of depth in midfield and need someone with a bit of experience (our midfield average was is about 22 until elder statesman O’Hare came on).

No fee. Injured last year but 40 odd games in Champ the year before. No risk.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,727
Evo1883 said:
How many games ?

Also worth pointing out if we've lost a game in the last 5 minutes that also counts as not winning from behind
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How many times have we done things like Pearson did at the weekend when it's obvious something isn't working?
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,728
The Philosopher said:
I’m going to stick my neck out for some Hudlin style abuse:

Sign Glen Rae on a trial basis (29, released by Luton but signed non-contract with Worthing the other day for match fitness (I think I’m right in saying that he can still sign for us? Anyone know?))

We are short of depth in midfield and need someone with a bit of experience (our midfield average was is about 22 until elder statesman O’Hare came on).

No fee. Injured last year but 40 odd games in Champ the year before. No risk.
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Goodnight everyone
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,729
Nick said:
I got annoyed that he waited far too long to try something.

You are missing the point, how many of those are down to Robins changing things or reacting during games? Granted, there will be a couple but the lack of reaction or ability to think on the spot and change things has cost us more than it has gained us.

We are seeing now without somebody like Gyo and Hamer scoring / assisting we don't realy have much going on.

Saturday saw the "dinosaur" Nigel Pearson completely nullify us with a change and Robins didn't try anything until the last minute.
Tonight it took 20 minutes for a reaction and then it was pretty much too late.
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We've already had it shown before that robins doesn't make subs any later in general than his counterparts


Made 4 today whilst rotherham had made 1 , 4 subs with almost 25 minutes to get a result
You can't give Robins no credit for picking up results but then also slam him for not turning games around when players also miss sitters etc
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,730
Evo1883 said:
We've already had it shown before that robins doesn't make subs any later in general than his counterparts


Made 4 today whilst rotherham had made 1 , 4 subs with almost 25 minutes to get a result
You can't give Robins no credit for picking up results but then also slam him for not turning games around when players also miss sitters etc
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Besides Onyedinma who missed sitters tonight?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,731
Nick said:
How many times have we done things like Pearson did at the weekend when it's obvious something isn't working?
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It was said on here that bristol rarely play wingback and just reverted to their normal system, not really magic


How often do bristol change their 4atb formation during matches?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,732
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Besides Onyedinma who missed sitters tonight?
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The conversation is clearly a generalisation , you're reading the chat right ?
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,733
Evo1883 said:
We've already had it shown before that robins doesn't make subs any later in general than his counterparts


Made 4 today whilst rotherham had made 1 , 4 subs with almost 25 minutes to get a result
You can't give Robins no credit for picking up results but then also slam him for not turning games around when players also miss sitters etc
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To be fair I think he’s been more proactive over the last couple of years with subs. Used to leave it too late - stats might disagree but just my perception
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,734
Evo1883 said:
It was said on here that bristol rarely play wingback and just reverted to their normal system, not really magic


How often do bristol change their 4atb formation during matches?
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How much longer would you persist with our own system provided results remain poor?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,735
Evo1883 said:
The conversation is clearly a generalisation , you're reading the chat right ?
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I am, but tonight we didn’t have any chances that would be classed as sitters.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,736
Evo1883 said:
We've already had it shown before that robins doesn't make subs any later in general than his counterparts


Made 4 today whilst rotherham had made 1 , 4 subs with almost 25 minutes to get a result
You can't give Robins no credit for picking up results but then also slam him for not turning games around when players also miss sitters etc
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Yes, Rotherham went 1-0 up and changed their system within 10 minutes when we were getting into the game.
Bristol City were wide open and Pearson changed it and completely nullified us, we could have played an extra 2 hours and not scored.

We see something isn't working and sit and wait for ages rather than do something.

We made the triple sub on the 76th minute, that's 14 minutes to do something.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,737
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How much longer would you persist with our own system provided results remain poor?
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Well it did us good for over 200 matches , I reckon losing 4 in 13 isn't going to switch it permanently just yet
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 25, 2023
  • #1,738
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am, but tonight we didn’t have any chances that would be classed as sitters.
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I never said we did , not once
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,739
Evo1883 said:
Well it did us good for over 200 matches , I reckon losing 4 in 13 isn't going to switch it permanently just yet
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That isn’t what I asked
 

Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,740
Evo1883 said:
It was said on here that bristol rarely play wingback and just reverted to their normal system, not really magic


How often do bristol change their 4atb formation during matches?
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I didn't say it was magic, I said the manager saw it wasn't working and changed it. It then completely nullified us and we had no idea what to do.
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,741
Still

think we’ll have a great team in league one imagine it

would smash the league
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,742
Evo1883 said:
Well it did us good for over 200 matches , I reckon losing 4 in 13 isn't going to switch it permanently just yet
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1. It's different
2. The players are different
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,743
Matt smith said:
Still

think we’ll have a great team in league one imagine it
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The American Callum Ball leading the line
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,744
covcity4life said:
Poor performance and result. Disappointing. O hare back now tho. Let's see if we can get back to winning ways at home
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O’Hare cannot reverse the slide on his own. This team is so pathetic. I’m sick watching this shit show week in and week out.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,745
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The American Callum Ball leading the line
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Simms and godden

Thomas and Kitching did well last year

Eccles and Allen in there

I think we’d bounce straight back
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,746
Nick said:
Yes, Rotherham went 1-0 up and changed their system within 10 minutes when we were getting into the game.
Bristol City were wide open and Pearson changed it and completely nullified us, we could have played an extra 2 hours and not scored.

We see something isn't working and sit and wait for ages rather than do something.

We made the triple sub on the 76th minute, that's 14 minutes to do something.
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My bad 21 minutes left including injury time of which there is a few minutes every single match ..

A change of formation isn't always going to get a result.. as tonight showed

The manager knows what he's doing nick , he almost took us to the Premier league mate being wank at subs and game management
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,747
Matt smith said:
Simms and godden

Thomas and Kitching did well last year

I think we’d bounce straight back
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Most would piss off to other clubs and MR probably be sacked
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,748
Nick said:
1. It's different
2. The players are different
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we've clearly signed players for the formation we've been playing

Is that even an argument ?
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,749
Nick said:
Yes, Rotherham went 1-0 up and changed their system within 10 minutes when we were getting into the game.
Bristol City were wide open and Pearson changed it and completely nullified us, we could have played an extra 2 hours and not scored.

We see something isn't working and sit and wait for ages rather than do something.

We made the triple sub on the 76th minute, that's 14 minutes to do something.
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At which point there defence starts to sit down, take a break have a drink and a team meeting
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 26, 2023
  • #1,750
Evo1883 said:
we've clearly signed players for the formation we've been playing

Is that even an argument ?
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Half of them are rubbish that’s the bottom line
 
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