Robins feeling the pressure?

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  1. Forever_Blue

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    “There’s a lot we need to do over a period of time to compete consistently at the top of the division.

    “But, again, it’s just time and as a manager you need time.

    Probably wouldn’t be an issue if he had signed strikers who could score goals, instead of wasting money on garbage.
     
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    Which striker did you want us to buy in the summer?
     
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    Is it fair to ask your average supporter who they would buy, when they don't know the budget for purchase or wages or don't have the supposed scouting network or contacts within the game ?!

    I think Robins should be feeling a bit of pressure now. This is the first time I've started to question him but having watched that shambles yesterday and particularly the lack of effort and determination from our players I think questions have to be asked. It seems he has wasted a lot of money { for league 1 } on a handful of strikers who look very poor to me. We have become over reliant on a 37 year old guy in midfield and a young lad who could vanish back to Derby in January and now our back four is nobbled by yet more injury issues.
    We are out of all cups and are slipping rapidly down the league and I can't see where the goals are coming from. The style of play is just too defensive, why doesn't he leave at least one guy up front when the opposition have a corner or free kick in our half, we don't make it hard for them, their guys can always see our players in front of them and we haven't got the pace to play that way.
     
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    Is he feeling the pressure, without a doubt I’m sure he is.

    Stats say we’re 8 games without a win in all competitions, 2pts from 18 in the last 6 league games it’s not great reading but we were hardly the model of consistency in the 5 games unbeaten run which raised expectations beyond reality.

    The side in L2 wasn’t the complete package yet we got promoted by hitting better form in the second half of the season. We were still a few players short in reality, now in L1 he’s been asked to make us competitive for the league but also needed to recycle the squad and the puzzle still isn’t complete.

    This summer he’s probably gone for quantity over quality and took some risks with some longer term visions and banking on a system in 4231 and players for that system coming good. It didn’t work so he’s changed it, and now tweaked it again but the players are struggling with it given the lack of key attributes added with confidence with their own ability now as the weeks go by.

    We’re not far off a side, two wingers and a target man and we’re back in the game being competitive.

    Reality is he’s only had three windows with two main summer ones to work in and from where we was to where we are is better still but it needs more time, patience and luck is what’s required short term and longer term vision.

    People will look and see Luton, Accrington going well but they were settled sides prior to last season.




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    Dunno personally as I'm clueless. Based on current form however the OP has a point...and as he's not being paid a large sum of money for his experience and to work full time with the scouts, unlike MR, probably an unfair dig.
     
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    Time to wake up.
     
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    Robins has wasted a huge amount of money, I can't think of one permanent signing that's actually improved us.

    I would have tried to sign Jorge Grant, Jayden Stockley, another winger, a first choice keeper (Burge had been great this season though) and a replacement for Doyle. Should have tried to poach someone like Billy Kee from Accrington and tried to give him playing for a bigger club speal.
     
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    I’m not the bloke paid good money to set up a scouting system and recruit the right players, whereas Robins is.
    But this season alone he has wasted wages/fees on shite. Hiwula, Bayayoko, JCH and Chaplin all not good enough or is it the manager that’s the issue and his coaching team??
     
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    We can all shout from the rooftops about who we want in January etc. Has anyone stopped and thought about the hard sell it still is to get players to come who will improve us with the shambles going on off the field?
    Regarding Robins, yes he has to be given more time and I think being realistic a mid table finish this season would be satisfactory.
     
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    He has 1 more window for me. No doubt he’ll sign Chaplin and continue to play him as a number 10 rather then up top.

    It’s not just the forwards he’s messed up with, Ogogo was obviously signed to compete with Doyle but is awful, so we are left with a 37 year old as our main midfielder, although he’s now been scapegoated by Robins and it’s got worse.
     
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    Think on this...last time we were in this league we got relegated and we got promoted via the play offs; so anything above relegation is progress.
     
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    He wants one more window which is fair enough but from the last window, how many are regulars ? not counting the loanees Junior Brown and that took a while and thats it, we are a third division side we can’t afford that.
     
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    I think the posters are expecting another promotion. We have moved up into a higher league with teams with a massive budget above ours. Plus experienced journey men.
    13th yes the team are hit and miss but ffs we all hail a young team but we are a team in progres. Not all signings pay off we are unfortunately in the realms of limited signings.
    Get real and lower your expectations and remember our budget compared to the hi flyers.
     
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    Luton are 2nd and the mighty Stanley will go back above us with piss poor crowds. The excuses have to stop at some point and it isn't unreasonable to say that Robins ballsed up when replacing McNulty. Based on the cumulative total spent we had about £1 million to play with which should be fetching top notch for this level.
     
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    Look at the stability at both Luton and Accrington tho and how competitive they have been for the last few seasons.

    Promotion came too soon in my eyes to sustain any serious momentum in L1. Recruitment could of been better this year but it’s easy to look back than look forward and say this player and that player has not worked.

    January might give a opportunity to tweak things but he needs another summer to work the market again with a few players contracts up.


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    Jayden Stockley Robins knew all about him having played against him 3 times last season.
     
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    Manager signed them
     
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    Have to agree here I love robins but tactically it’s painful to watch he’s had money and wasted it the players to me don’t look like they want to play for him
     
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    Amazes me how fickle we are. 6 weeks ago to some of our fans we were promotion certs, yes we had a good run but that’s all it was. Now we’re having a bad run it’s all doom and gloom. For the vast majority of teams that go up they are looking for consolidation the next season and then to push on the following season To me that’s exactly where we are consolidating our position to then push on. A good percentage of this team won’t ever play Championship football or above but can improve to become good Division 1 players as they get older and more experienced.
     
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    we have to change our style of play to get the best out of those players but i am afraid MR will not change. To me stikers need to be the box to score goals on a regular basis and that is not happening with our cautious approach we take!
     
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    If we’re gonna play Chaplin he needs a target man waste of time else he’s too weak and is left isolated so easy to defend against he’s not the quickest
     
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    Jesus Christ id love this job if I was a manager. Absolutely blamesless because people like you will still wangle it back to the off field drama. Dreamy.
     
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    The fans who have sudenly come out the wood work calling for robbins head are the same fans who think we are still a premiership club and should be getting automatics this season.

    Yes he has signed poor strikers but what this club needs is stability for once. Give him backing and the time and Im sure he will come good or shall we do what weve done for the past 20 years and have a revolving door of managers, fans who expect to much and think we should be champions league
     
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    Fair to say robin's relied on individual magic in his 2 stints with cov (mcgoldrick mcnulty). He needs to work out a different way to win now.
     
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    Missing the point mate I don’t think anyone minds getting beat and not making autos it’s the manner in what their doing it the players look like they didn’t give a shit yesterday who’s that down to ? Surely the manager is who gets the best out his players.
     
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    Really good post - to be fair to MR, he's been saying that it will take a few windows to get the team to where he wants it. Will fans have the patience, though? In my opinion, the previous season alone gives him time in my eyes. Others may be less forgiving, but I am that sort of person!!
     
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    JCH and Brown are the only regulars.
     
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    I don’t want Robins to leave, I want him to get it right but at the minute that is not happening.
     
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    If I was a 20 something half decent striker knocking around div1 or 2 and cov came asking for me I am sure I would be actively seeking employment elsewhere. If I knew nothing about ccfc but spent 10 minutes on the net it would be quite clear that the other 23 div 1 teams might be a better prospect. It will be very hard for us to tempt any decent players in January given the current state of play at this club.
     
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    So why would we have been able to sign players in the last couple of years?
     
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    The notion that players wouldn't want to sign for us because of Sisu is ridiculous. They couldn't care less. Coventry City is still a big club for this level and is still a pretty big draw, but players will generally go where they can get most money and best prospects. We are still quite high up the list in this division on both those counts.
     
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    At the end of the day show me a team that prospers at any level after losing a 28 goal striker.

    No fees have been confirmed for any of Hiwula, Chaplin or Bakayoko so to use a made up fee as a stick to beat Robins with is complete bollocks (par for the course on here mind you).
     

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