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  • Start date Aug 17, 2023
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Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #36
ptr said:
Let’s not forget it was actually meant to be Vente and Sharp but Doug wouldn’t dig deep enough. SISU puppet.
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Yawn.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #37
Wright should start before Simms, Godden should be a given. If Simms comes in and score and Godden or Wright don’t score then Simms should start.

Its really simple just starts who scores and the other has to work their way back in.

At the end of the day Wright has scored and won a penalty, Simms nothing with more minutes.

Fully expect Wright to start Saturday.
 

Boicey

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #38
Talking about a 'dilemma' at this point is a bit odd. Robins targeted, researched and bought in these two players a few weeks ago. You'd hope there was quite a lot of clarity and planning on how he was going to use them in the squad.
I think everything we've seen so far suggests it will be either/or Simms, Wright to start not both. We'll see
 
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Macca1987

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #39
I trust in Robins, he will look at our opponents, then, who is doing what in training during the week and make the correct call PUSB
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #40
Godden is a pretty streaky player, so may as well play him while he’s in form.
 
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ptr

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #41
I should think Godden and Simms start again, but this time Godden comes off for the Wright. Simms needs a goal, deffo a confidence player.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #42
Boicey said:
Talking about a 'dilemma' at this point is a bit odd. Robins targeted, researched and bought in these two players a few weeks ago. You'd hope there was quite a lot of clarity and planning on how he was going to use them in the squad.
I think everything we've seen so far suggests it will be either/or Simms, Wright to start not both. We'll see
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Fanbase is just not used to having a squad with genuine options in it. With the odd exception, our starting XI has picked itself for years. Having competition for places and different options for different teams can only be a good thing.
 
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twistandshout

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #43
Robins said after the game on Saturday that Simms is starting because hes been with us longer than Wright and its important that Godden plays with them to show them how we play.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #44
Simms is miles off the sharpness of 32 year old Matty Godden atm.
 

Astute

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #45
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms and Wright will be our starting strikers when everyone is up to speed. This only changes if Godden has an impact similar to that in our second Championship season.

Simms will be absolutely fine and the naysayers will come to look silly in a few months time. Wright will also be a class act for us.
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Godden has suffered recently with us playing to Gyokeres's strengths. Now we're playing a different set up Godden will score goals. He seems to have a good understanding with Wright already. Even the OG against Middlesbrough was an attempted pass to Wright. If it had missed the defender it would have most probably be another goal for Wright and assist for Godden.

If Wright and Godden continue as they are it will be Simms fighting for a starting place.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #46
Simms is a long term replacement for Godden. Regardless of how much we or Robins like him, Godden's body is not strong enough to last a full season any more. A small injury soon grows into a more lengthy period out. So while God is fit now, Simms will be the backup. That will change, and I'd even guess as soon as Xmas. When pitches get more heavy, Goddens legs will have to be protected. And to a similar amount, so will CoH's.

I think coming on and scoring will also have the added bonus of speeding up Simm's confidence boost. We talk about the first goalscorer but we praise the one who wins the game for us.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #47
Im sure its a problem Robins can live with given that not that long ago his dilemma was shall I play Biamou on his own or stick Bakayoko up alongside him?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #48
I don't really understand getting hung-up on the starting line up. If a player with fresh legs comes on and makes a meaningful contribution, surely that's all that matters. With the amount of substitutes teams can make now, we need players from the bench that can change the game.
 
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Boicey

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #49
steve cooper said:
I don't really understand getting hung-up on the starting line up. If a player with fresh legs comes on and makes a meaningful contribution, surely that's all that matters. With the amount of substitutes teams can make now, we need players from the bench that can change the game.
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You reckon payers put on the bench feel the same way?
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #50
Boicey said:
You reckon payers put on the bench feel the same way?
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Young lads yes, apart from that , no. Most players are selfish and only happy when playing in my experience.

just as players don’t mind the rotation principle as long as it’s not them that is rotated !
 
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blunted

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #51
MR likes to have four strikers changing two for two as the game progresses. I expect another forward to come in before the window closes. Horses for courses depending on opposition, fitness and if players have been away on international duty.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #52
Happy_Martian said:
Simms is a long term replacement for Godden. Regardless of how much we or Robins like him, Godden's body is not strong enough to last a full season any more. A small injury soon grows into a more lengthy period out. So while God is fit now, Simms will be the backup. That will change, and I'd even guess as soon as Xmas. When pitches get more heavy, Goddens legs will have to be protected. And to a similar amount, so will CoH's.

I think coming on and scoring will also have the added bonus of speeding up Simm's confidence boost. We talk about the first goalscorer but we praise the one who wins the game for us.
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Nobody is a direct replacement for anybody else

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stupot07

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #53
Surely the bigger question is when Allen and O'Hare are back and fit, will he go back to the box and then who will be the lone striker.

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steve cooper

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #54
Boicey said:
You reckon payers put on the bench feel the same way?
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It's all about competition for places, and quality in depth. Rather than players being unhappy on the bench they need to compete and earn a place in the team and perform well when called upon. Most players realise this. You're a new member so may not know this but last season we were complaining that we didn't have enough quality in depth. Can't have it both ways.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 17, 2023
  • #55
hamertime said:
Simms is miles off the sharpness of 32 year old Matty Godden atm.
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The Godden so sharp he’s currently doing a special celebration to get back at all the fans who slated him for missing a hatful.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #56
hamertime said:
Simms is miles off the sharpness of 32 year old Matty Godden atm.
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. You saw the Leicester match right ?

Neither player has looked sharp so far, 1 muss hit tap in doesn’t change that.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #57
Deity said:
. You saw the Leicester match right ?

Neither player has looked sharp so far, 1 muss hit tap in doesn’t change that.
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Clown, Godden has been our best player.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #58
hamertime said:
Clown, Godden has been our best player.
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Ok Mrs Godden. A bit early for that much Chardonnay isn’t it !
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #59
shmmeee said:
The Godden so sharp he’s currently doing a special celebration to get back at all the fans who slated him for missing a hatful.
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I hope he keeps doing the celebration because it looks like most of the fans still don’t back him.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #60
He had a poor end to last season and was poor at Leicester. Most fans, myself included, want him to do well, but that doesn’t mean we should pretend he has been.

I have never bought the logic that a striker getting into good positions but not scoring still means he’s had a good match. We don’t say a keeper has played well if he gets in a position to make an obvious save, and then doesn’t and we concede.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #61
Deity said:
He had a poor end to last season and was poor at Leicester. Most fans, myself included, want him to do well, but that doesn’t mean we should pretend he has been.

I have never bought the logic that a striker getting into good positions but not scoring still means he’s had a good match. We don’t say a keeper has played well if he gets in a position to make an obvious save, and then doesn’t and we concede.
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He was injured for 3 months

The way we played meant Vic was usually on his own so he didn’t get a chance of a run in a team what do you expect.

Hes started the season great and fit yet people still doubt him. He is right about cov fans isnt he.
 

Boicey

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #62
hamertime said:
He was injured for 3 months

The way we played meant Vic was usually on his own so he didn’t get a chance of a run in a team what do you expect.

Hes started the season great and fit yet people still doubt him. He is right about cov fans isnt he.
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He hasnt started the season great though has he? He's had one stinker and one good game- though good job his scuffed shot went in else we might have been saying otherwise.
Last season he had a bucketload of anonymous games where he barely had a touch. Fans had every right to criticise and its no surprise he needs to prove himself.
In the end I think most recognise he has been a good servant, cares and wish him well.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #63
hamertime said:
I hope he keeps doing the celebration because it looks like most of the fans still don’t back him.
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Deity

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #64
shmmeee said:
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Fingers in ears
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #65
Deity said:
Fingers in ears
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I know what it is. It was the “most fans don’t back him” stuff
 
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Boicey

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #66
shmmeee said:
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Fingers in the ears.
That always works out well. Ask Micky Adams.
Its a silly thing to do as in the end it just puts yourself under more pressure.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #67
Boicey said:
Fingers in the ears.
That always works out well. Ask Micky Adams.
Its a silly thing to do as in the end it just puts yourself under more pressure.
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Harry Maguire did the same thing too for England last year. Worked out well
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #68
Must be aimed at his gaffer too because Robins hasn’t spent £11m on 2 strikers because he thought Godden would be one of his first choice pair !!
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #69
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Harry Maguire did the same thing too for England last year. Worked out well
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I'm sure the melts on twitter will get over it
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 18, 2023
  • #70
Deity said:
He had a poor end to last season and was poor at Leicester. Most fans, myself included, want him to do well, but that doesn’t mean we should pretend he has been.

I have never bought the logic that a striker getting into good positions but not scoring still means he’s had a good match. We don’t say a keeper has played well if he gets in a position to make an obvious save, and then doesn’t and we concede.
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So was our other striker. We’d be in the Prem if either of them were on form. It wasn’t all about Hamer.
 
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