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mr_monkey

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  • Jan 19, 2021
  • #36
Greggs said:
i expect us to go down, always have done! That's where your delusion kicks in.
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So then why moan when we are outclassed by a superior team?

Based on the games so far it's definitely not delusional to think we have a damn good chance of staying up this season, cut out the daft mistakes and we are a decent team but unfortunately with a young inexperienced team that will happen

I'd prefer not to write my team off from day one
 
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Greggs

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  • Jan 19, 2021
  • #37
mr_monkey said:
So then why moan when we are outclassed by a superior team?

Based on the games so far it's definitely not delusional to think we have a damn good chance of staying up this season, cut out the daft mistakes and we are a decent team but unfortunately with a young inexperienced team that will happen

I'd prefer not to write my team off from day one
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not moaning, just being realistic
 

pastythegreat

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #38
cc84cov said:
Bloke on radio going mad about 1 up front and “Gurkis” starting over max
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In fairness, 1 up front doesnt work, it hasn't all season. And in terms of Max v Gyorkeres. Max came closer to scoring with 15mins than Gyorkeres did in 75. I dont think he even touched the ball in the Reading box did he? Either way, both were in a thankless task because if were playing 1 up top, NONE of our squad are suited to it or good enough for it. To play 1 up top like we do, we need a player like Joao.

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Jamesimus

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #39
Greggs said:
not moaning, just being realistic
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Can't you just moan instead, this realism is really exhausting.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40
cc84cov said:
Can’t wait to hear this one
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Neither can I. It will make a change from listening to your moaning and constant comments about MR and his subs
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #41
cc84cov said:
Predictable as his subs
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Give it a rest
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #42
pastythegreat said:
In fairness, 1 up front doesnt work, it hasn't all season. And in terms of Max v Gyorkeres. Max came closer to scoring with 15mins than Gyorkeres did in 75. I dont think he even touched the ball in the Reading box did he? Either way, both were in a thankless task because if were playing 1 up top, NONE of our squad are suited to it or good enough for it. To play 1 up top like we do, we need a player like Joao.

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One up front is fine for us if we’ve got total control of the game and can play in their half. Yesterday after half an hour we were sat back on the 18 yard line leaving the striker as the only man up.

Either be brave or stick two big men up top so at least the guys on the 18 yard line have two people to aim at.
 

matesx

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #43
...than Gyorkeres did in 75 ....

59 to be pedantic, I only recall him touching the ball once.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #44
shmmeee said:
One up front is fine for us if we’ve got total control of the game and can play in their half. Yesterday after half an hour we were sat back on the 18 yard line leaving the striker as the only man up.

Either be brave or stick two big men up top so at least the guys on the 18 yard line have two people to aim at.
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It’s just a regression back to the first 10 games. Disjointed, huge space between our lines, striker trying to feed off scraps and comical defensive mistakes. It was painful to watch and I wish Robins had communicated that he thought the game was gone at 2-0 to save us 45 minutes of the opposition taking the piss
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #45
Love Robins for what he has done for us, but his interview last night was bit of a car crash. Yes the players were shite last night but he needs to accept some responsibility for the tactics and some of the players selected.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #46
no_loyalty said:
Games gone after 2nd goal, can’t believe he said that FFS.
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It’s what we were all saying and most thought it had after the first
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #47
shmmeee said:
One up front is fine for us if we’ve got total control of the game and can play in their half. Yesterday after half an hour we were sat back on the 18 yard line leaving the striker as the only man up.

Either be brave or stick two big men up top so at least the guys on the 18 yard line have two people to aim at.
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I thought the first half was much better than that. True no clear cut changes but that was mainly through poor choice or poor play in the final third. Heads went down at 2-0 which isn’t like us over the last 18 months
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #48
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s what we were all saying and most thought it had after the first
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That was clear in his changes mate he made no effort to get back into it tactically he’s weak as piss
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #49
cc84cov said:
That was clear in his changes mate he made no effort to get back into it tactically he’s weak as piss
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He’s the second best manager we’ve had in our history don’t talk wet
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #50
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love Robins for what he has done for us, but his interview last night was bit of a car crash. Yes the players were shite last night but he needs to accept some responsibility for the tactics and some of the players selected.
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I agree.

The biggest downfall for a lot of people and business is their reluctance to change or not. This guy has made some appalling tactical decisions recently and half the forum are screaming for him to make changes or not pick certain players. The old joke about him being arrogant is kind of funny, but there is some truth in it.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #51
Allen played pretty well in his last spell in the team. Now he's been glued to the bench for the last few games while Shipley is starting and Bapaga getting time off the bench in front of him. I find that odd.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #52
Esoterica said:
Allen played pretty well in his last spell in the team. Now he's been glued to the bench for the last few games while Shipley is starting and Bapaga getting time off the bench in front of him. I find that odd.
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I think it’s odd Allen didn’t play ahead of a clearly out of form and low in confidence Shipley
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #53
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I agree.

The biggest downfall for a lot of people and business is their reluctance to change or not. This guy has made some appalling tactical decisions recently and half the forum are screaming for him to make changes or not pick certain players. The old joke about him being arrogant is kind of funny, but there is some truth in it.
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We know nothing. Not only do we have very little football knowledge but we also have no idea of what’s happening in training or injuries or funds available or length of injuries or who responds well to public ridicule or praise or who on the bench is fit to play and who is good enough at a young age

We are utterly dreaming if we think we have a clue about how to get the best out of the team.

Sure we can have opinions but for me and for most on here he has earned the right to poor runs, poor performances and strange decisions. If you think otherwise you need to give your head a wobble

For me even relegation doesn’t make me question his position
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #54
Grendel said:
I think it’s odd Allen didn’t play ahead of a clearly out of form and low in confidence Shipley
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Well do you think robins is trying not to win and aiming for relegation or that there’s a bloody good reason?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #55
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well do you think robins is trying not to win and aiming for relegation or that there’s a bloody good reason?
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The only reason I would assume is he wanted to keep a formation which Shipley fitted into on the left sound

He got it wrong. There was never a good reason to offer a contract to Bakayoko a player even he never seemed sure of himself and it’s perfectly reasonable to discuss if this is a task beyond him

If we go down we will I am sure make the mistake of retaining him and then firing him by September
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #56
Grendel said:
I think it’s odd Allen didn’t play ahead of a clearly out of form and low in confidence Shipley
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It’s just weird wtf is going on how can Shipley keep being picked I don’t see how we can’t go back to a flat 4 now with 2 strikers
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #57
Sky Blue Pete said:
We know nothing. Not only do we have very little football knowledge but we also have no idea of what’s happening in training or injuries or funds available or length of injuries or who responds well to public ridicule or praise or who on the bench is fit to play and who is good enough at a young age

We are utterly dreaming if we think we have a clue about how to get the best out of the team.

Sure we can have opinions but for me and for most on here he has earned the right to poor runs, poor performances and strange decisions. If you think otherwise you need to give your head a wobble

For me even relegation doesn’t make me question his position
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You would though accept that all managers will make mistakes and despite our being amateurs on a forum, sometimes a lot of us can recognise when he gets something wrong. That doesn’t mean people are calling for a taxi but they are legitimate concerns. I can also accept that injuries have dealt us a bad hand but last night we looked resigned to defeat after the first goal whereas in the past, even against PNE, the heads didn’t drop.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #58
cc84cov said:
It’s just weird wtf is going on how can Shipley keep being picked I don’t see how we can’t go back to a flat 4 now with 2 strikers
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He won’t play 2 strikers as he’s knows they aren’t good enough and we lose a midfielder

He’s cautious by nature which is fine but despite Hyam repeatedly getting good ratings here he’s been vulnerable all season
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #59
Grendel said:
He won’t play 2 strikers as he’s knows they aren’t good enough and we lose a midfielder

He’s cautious by nature which is fine but despite Hyam repeatedly getting good ratings here he’s been vulnerable all season
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We lose a midfielder playing Shipley mate that lad needs dropping and fast it’s weeks late

Hyam also 4-5 games now being exposed to the level
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #60
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love Robins for what he has done for us, but his interview last night was bit of a car crash. Yes the players were shite last night but he needs to accept some responsibility for the tactics and some of the players selected.
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The players selected? Who should have played then? Did the tactics make the individual errors?
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #61
fernandopartridge said:
The players selected? Who should have played then? Did the tactics make the individual errors?
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Shipley shouldn’t be close to that starting 11 for a start if he knew the game was over at 2-0 as he said in his interview why didn’t he just go 2 up top and just have a go at them
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #62
Sky Blue Pete said:
We know nothing. Not only do we have very little football knowledge but we also have no idea of what’s happening in training or injuries or funds available or length of injuries or who responds well to public ridicule or praise or who on the bench is fit to play and who is good enough at a young age

We are utterly dreaming if we think we have a clue about how to get the best out of the team.

Sure we can have opinions but for me and for most on here he has earned the right to poor runs, poor performances and strange decisions. If you think otherwise you need to give your head a wobble

For me even relegation doesn’t make me question his position
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I have seen enough this season to safely say we can avoid relegation if we play it the right way. At the moment the reason we will go down has nothing to do with budgets.

Yes, we have injuries, but there is no defending some of his team selections, tactics, or substitutions. People are too star-struck by being back in the championship and that nonchalance towards trying to stay in it concerns me a lot.

We need to avoid relegation as a club, and we can do it. At the moment though, we are shooting ourselves in the foot. I was lightly concerned, now I am getting the alarm bells. The interview after the game might as well have been done by Nick in Birmingham quite frankly.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #63
Grendel said:
The only reason I would assume is he wanted to keep a formation which Shipley fitted into on the left sound

He got it wrong. There was never a good reason to offer a contract to Bakayoko a player even he never seemed sure of himself and it’s perfectly reasonable to discuss if this is a task beyond him

If we go down we will I am sure make the mistake of retaining him and then firing him by September
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You're 100% right G. If we go down he should be relieved of his duties. Forget about sentiment, we would probably end up firing him early into the season if we didn't start well and that would be a season down the drain.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #64
cc84cov said:
That was clear in his changes mate he made no effort to get back into it tactically he’s weak as piss
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He's got us promoted twice in 3 seasons. He's obviously not 'tactically, weak as piss'.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #65
Skyblueweeman said:
He's got us promoted twice in 3 seasons. He's obviously not 'tactically, weak as piss'.
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At this level
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #66
Ccfcisparks said:
You're 100% right G. If we go down he should be relieved of his duties. Forget about sentiment, we would probably end up firing him early into the season if we didn't start well and that would be a season down the drain.
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And another summer budget wasted
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #67
Grendel said:
The only reason I would assume is he wanted to keep a formation which Shipley fitted into on the left sound

He got it wrong. There was never a good reason to offer a contract to Bakayoko a player even he never seemed sure of himself and it’s perfectly reasonable to discuss if this is a task beyond him

If we go down we will I am sure make the mistake of retaining him and then firing him by September
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Baka was affordable and he hoped to use him sparingly can be the only reason
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #68
cc84cov said:
At this level
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Give him time. Far too knee jerk
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #69
Sky Blue Pete said:
Give him time. Far too knee jerk
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He’s been at the level before
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #70
cc84cov said:
We lose a midfielder playing Shipley mate that lad needs dropping and fast it’s weeks late

Hyam also 4-5 games now being exposed to the level
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Shipley was decent last time out against Millwall & we won the game so I can see why he kept him in. His performance last night was poor though & he definitely should have been substituted much earlier.

Hyam has looked a liability most of the season but who else do you put in? An untried kid?

People forget we're essentially a League 1 team competing against a Top 6 Championship side. We played the better football first half but do lack a cutting edge with both our first choice strikers injured, that can't come as a surprise.

At 1-0 down at half-time we're still in the game so to give another gift almost immediately in the second half then yes, game is then done - everyone knew it.

I don't think tactically Robins got it wrong except for not making changes earlier, particularly Shipley.
 
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