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ricoh grows in value......according to wasps (1 Viewer)

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italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #141
Rusty Trombone said:
Yeah, what Nick said, it was known long in advance, it was hardly a large walk up on the day.

You just throw random stuff in, it's like arguing with my missus, but without the risk of not getting my shirts ironed.
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You need to read what I was replying to.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #142
Rusty Trombone said:
I got it from what you said, but it was 30 minutes ago so you've probably changed your mind now.

The Council and Wasps don't read the plan that way, Wasps have said they estimate the crowd, they wouldn't need to if it was all football matches.
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He's just took the headline and not actually read the document lol

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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #143
italiahorse said:
If you could be bothered to read the comment I was replying too he said it was a football match so Wasps could assume it was under 10,000.
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He said:

I got it from what you said, but it was 30 minutes ago so you've probably changed your mind now.

The Council and Wasps don't read the plan that way, Wasps have said they estimate the crowd, they wouldn't need to if it was all football matches.
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If you had bothered to understand his comment you would have seen what was meant.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #144
italiahorse said:
If you could be bothered to read the comment I was replying too he said it was a football match so Wasps could assume it was under 10,000.
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I really didn't say that.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #145
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italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #146
stupot07 said:
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Likely to exceed is all they need then ?
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #147
Rusty Trombone said:
I really didn't say that.
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Apologies but I read the final part as Wasps just have to see its a football match to assume it would be under 10,000.
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #148
italiahorse said:
Likely to exceed is all they need then ?
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Yes, likely, as opposed to unlikely, which would be the case for most of our games this season.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #149
italiahorse said:
Likely to exceed is all they need then ?
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We've only exceeded 10k 3 times this season (notts county, stoke fa cup and thr offer/10k free ticket game), in fact those 3 games are the only ones that were more than 9k.even with the 28k game our average attendance this season is less than 9k in the league and will be even lower if you factor in thr JPT and FA cup games.

'Unlikely' to exceed is more likely than 'likely'. I wonder what their real motive is £££££




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chiefdave

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #150
italiahorse said:
So how say, 3 weeks out do you predict the crowd at a CCFC match taking into account an unknown walk up ?
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You've certainly got me there. It must be near impossible to confidently predict, for example, there won't be a huge surge in attendance when we play Stevenage on a Friday night. If only there was some sort of historical data they could look to that might help.

Presumably then the parking restrictions were in place for the rugby Friday night and for all Wasps netball games and every other event there. After all you can never be sure how many thousands may turn up with no warning.

Bit odd that given the Ricoh are always expecting thousands more than actually show up that they are always running out of things.
italiahorse said:
Dare I mention that any car coming to the Ricoh for these events should have at least 3 people in it or they can turn them away?
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Coincidence that the rules they choose not to enforce are the ones that would lose them money?
 
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italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #151
chiefdave said:
Coincidence that the rules they choose not to enforce are the ones that would lose them money?
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Don't get precious about Wasps, its never been implemented since day one.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #152
chiefdave said:
You've certainly got me there. It must be near impossible to confidently predict, for example, there won't be a huge surge in attendance when we play Stevenage on a Friday night. If only there was some sort of historical data they could look to that might help.
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Were the signs up for Stevenage ?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #153
italiahorse said:
Were the signs up for Stevenage ?
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I wouldn’t know but they were for Barnet and Luton.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #154
Grendel said:
I wouldn’t know but they were for Barnet and Luton.
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Luton could quite easily have been 10,000
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #155
italiahorse said:
Luton could quite easily have been 10,000
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Could Barnet?
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #156
Grendel said:
Could Barnet?
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Could have if they gave away tickets as per Accrington.
 

Nick

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #157
italiahorse said:
Could have if they gave away tickets as per Accrington.
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They weren't though?
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #158
italiahorse said:
Don't get precious about Wasps, its never been implemented since day one.
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So the point stands. Rules that would mean less revenue to the stadium operators have been ignored.
italiahorse said:
Were the signs up for Stevenage ?
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The game hasn't happened yet.
italiahorse said:
Luton could quite easily have been 10,000
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Didn't even reach 9K let alone 10K. And remember the decision is supposed to be based on the most likely scenario. Its hard to argue the most likely scenario is over 10K when we've only managed that once this season when not giving away thousands of tickets and letting everyone else in cheap.
italiahorse said:
Could have if they gave away tickets as per Accrington.
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That's a desperate defence even for you. You can't rule that every game could be over 10K as one where thousands of tickets were given away was.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #159
chiefdave said:
So the point stands. Rules that would mean less revenue to the stadium operators have been ignored.

The game hasn't happened yet.

Didn't even reach 9K let alone 10K. And remember the decision is supposed to be based on the most likely scenario. Its hard to argue the most likely scenario is over 10K when we've only managed that once this season when not giving away thousands of tickets and letting everyone else in cheap.

That's a desperate defence even for you. You can't rule that every game could be over 10K as one where thousands of tickets were given away was.
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Can't argue that they could apply the 10,000 rule particularly with the signs could go up a few days before.
Can't argue that the poacher is also the gamekeeper on this.
Can argue that it meets the intention of the green travel ban in respect of reducing numbers of cars.
Can argue for the residents in respect of anything over 5,000 would fill the streets around the stadium.
Having friends in the area and looking back at my Sisters experience in Chandos Street by Highfield Road I would not want that regularly on a Saturday afternoon.
 

Nick

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #160
italiahorse said:
Can't argue that they could apply the 10,000 rule particularly with the signs could go up a few days before.
Can't argue that the poacher is also the gamekeeper on this.
Can argue that it meets the intention of the green travel ban in respect of reducing numbers of cars.
Can argue for the residents in respect of anything over 5,000 would fill the streets around the stadium.
Having friends in the area and looking back at my Sisters experience in Chandos Street by Highfield Road I would not want that regularly on a Saturday afternoon.
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So why isn't the limit 5000?
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #161
Nick said:
So why isn't the limit 5000?
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Probably is by default as nobody is complaining.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #162
italiahorse said:
Can't argue that they could apply the 10,000 rule particularly with the signs could go up a few days before.
Can't argue that the poacher is also the gamekeeper on this.
Can argue that it meets the intention of the green travel ban in respect of reducing numbers of cars.
Can argue for the residents in respect of anything over 5,000 would fill the streets around the stadium.
Having friends in the area and looking back at my Sisters experience in Chandos Street by Highfield Road I would not want that regularly on a Saturday afternoon.
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As ever you just pluck a figure - 5,000 - out the air
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #163
italiahorse said:
Probably is by default as nobody is complaining.
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It isn't, it's 10,000 as pointed out multiple times.

Making shit up as you go along for a change.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #164
Grendel said:
As ever you just pluck a figure - 5,000 - out the air
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Its an educated opinion something you struggle with.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #165
Nick said:
It isn't, it's 10,000 as pointed out multiple times.

Making shit up as you go along for a change.
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Better than sitting in your bedroom moaning about everything yet doing nothing about it.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #166
italiahorse said:
Probably is by default as nobody is complaining.
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If more people knew they were unnecessarily paying for parking then more people would be complaining.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #167
italiahorse said:
No I don't open if there is no demand. Gone are the days of being a busy fool.
I will be open for the play offs (hopefully)
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How far in advance do you make this decision, as surely it's impossible to predict the demand with our huge walk up?
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #168
Rusty Trombone said:
If more people knew they were unnecessarily paying for parking then more people would be complaining.
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The official line is that because of potential walk up 10000 could be reached for any CCFC or Wasps match.
Not arguing for it just telling people what it is.
 

italiahorse

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #169
Rusty Trombone said:
How far in advance do you make this decision, as surely it's impossible to predict the demand with our huge walk up?
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Ill try and find out.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #170
italiahorse said:
Better than sitting in your bedroom moaning about everything yet doing nothing about it.
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What is, making things up?

Yeah, you really haven't got the hang of things have you?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #171
italiahorse said:
Its an educated opinion something you struggle with.
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Surely the educated opinion is 10,000 as that is what the limit was set at?
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #172
italiahorse said:
The official line is that because of potential walk up 10000 could be reached for any CCFC or Wasps match.
Not arguing for it just telling people what it is.
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In which case 10,000 could turn up for lots of the events as well couldn't they?
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #173
italiahorse said:
Ill try and find out.
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I'm asking you about you deciding about opening your car park, what are you going to do, write yourself an email?:banghead:
 
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SkyBlue79

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #174
italiahorse said:
Ill try and find out.
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I suppose ACL/Wasps would receive a fine or threat to their license if the attendance is more than 10k and therefore I don't blame going on the premise that 30k tickets are on sale therefore parking restrictions should apply. What would happen if ACL said there are no parking restrictions and more than 10k did turn up. Would Wasps stop entry once it reaches a limit? They certainly couldn't ask everyone to go and move their cars!

Maybe based on away team request for tickets we could declare to ACL that we won't be selling more than 10k tickets and allow folk to save money on parking?

however if they have to put the notice in months in advance then that makes it difficult. I couldn't go to the forum last week, rid it get raised?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #175
SkyBlue79 said:
I suppose ACL/Wasps would receive a fine or threat to their license if the attendance is more than 10k and therefore I don't blame going on the premise that 30k tickets are on sale therefore parking restrictions should apply. What would happen if ACL said there are no parking restrictions and more than 10k did turn up. Would Wasps stop entry once it reaches a limit? They certainly couldn't ask everyone to go and move their cars!

Maybe based on away team request for tickets we could declare to ACL that we won't be selling more than 10k tickets and allow folk to save money on parking?

however if they have to put the notice in months in advance then that makes it difficult. I couldn't go to the forum last week, rid it get raised?
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Would they not have received a fine if the rugby event last week went over 10k?
 
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