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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #561
Does he actually touch the Preston player?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #562
The fun we had this morning with parents at u15 game was a foul throw!

Lad allowed the person to retake it rather than it being the opposition ball.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #563
pusbccfc said:
Does he actually touch the Preston player?
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No
Someone said pen correct because he intended to lol
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #564
Sky Blue Pete said:
No
Someone said pen correct because he intended to lol
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Mental. We'll be due a decision soon.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #565
Sky Blue Pete said:
No
Someone said pen correct because he intended to lol
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But in actual time, at normal speed, you can see how the ref deemed he did touch/push/grab him.

We would have been absolutely screaming for a penalty under the same circumstance.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #566
Otis said:
But in actual time, at normal speed, you can see how the ref deemed he did touch/push/grab him.

We would have been absolutely screaming for a penalty under the same circumstance.
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And, the way things are going, not being awarded the penalty and a yellow card for our player for simulation.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #567
Sky Blue Pete said:
No
Someone said pen correct because he intended to lol
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That’s what it looked like to me : Fatz tried to foul him but failed!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #568
StrettoBoy said:
That’s what it looked like to me : Fatz tried to foul him but failed!
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Exactly that I think and from the refs perspective you can see how he would have believed that McFadzean actually did catch the player.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #569
Otis said:
But in actual time, at normal speed, you can see how the ref deemed he did touch/push/grab him.

We would have been absolutely screaming for a penalty under the same circumstance.
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Yes we would be screaming but no likely hood of getting one - we just seem to be invisible for fouls in the box
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #570
Fadz would not have caught him as he i too slow at the moment! the forward panicked and swung a boot before Fadz got any contact. Fadz was that slow he couldnt bring him down properly, did anyone see the linesman reaction to it, cos i didnt see his flag go up waving
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #571
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep for me he’s given what he thinks he’s seen and maybe from his angle it looks like a pen

However he then makes an error not sending fadz off
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Sorry Pete but the ref. had the same angle just about as the clip shown .You can see him in the clip much as I like Taylor he cocked up there.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #572
SkyBlueSoul said:
My main bone of contention is the Premier League using the Championship as the naughty step for referees after a shit performance. They're human and are liable to make mistakes but they should be dropped altogether for a week.
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Referees aren’t going to improve by being stopped from reffing altogether.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #573
SBT said:
Referees aren’t going to improve by being stopped from reffing altogether.
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Not sure how you got to "being stopped from reffing altogether". 1 week isn't going to render them incapable. Get them out the spotlight, spend a week training/analysing the mistake etc. while at the same time not belittling the Championship by using it as a punishment.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #574
Otis said:
Exactly that I think and from the refs perspective you can see how he would have believed that McFadzean actually did catch the player.
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The ref had just about the same view as the camera shows.
Otis as a friend. I hope so being as I've never upset you I maybe one. Pop along to Specsavers old boy.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #575
SkyBlueSoul said:
Not sure how you got to "being stopped from reffing altogether". 1 week isn't going to render them incapable. Get them out the spotlight, spend a week training/analysing the mistake etc. while at the same time not belittling the Championship by using it as a punishment.
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Refereeing in the Championship does take them out of the Premier League spotlight. We don’t like to be reminded that our league’s of a lesser standard, but that’s just reality.

Referees need match fitness just like players do - if they’re not performing well, then maybe that needs to happen at a lower level for everyone’s sake, but the only reason to suspend them entirely should be misconduct.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #576

The impossible job: inside the world of Premier League referees

Players, pundits and fans complain bitterly that referees are getting worse each season – but is that fair?
www.theguardian.com

I remember reading this a while back, section '5 Splitting the room' sums it up. I was furious in the stands yesterday, but we've had some shockers in our favour and tbh I'd hate to watch Cov games with VAR, how the fk do you celebrate a goal after a 5 min review?!
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #577
SBT said:
Refereeing in the Championship does take them out of the Premier League spotlight. We don’t like to be reminded that our league’s of a lesser standard, but that’s just reality.

Referees need match fitness just like players do - if they’re not performing well, then maybe that needs to happen at a lower level for everyone’s sake, but the only reason to suspend them entirely should be misconduct.
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Stopping them reffing for 1 or 2 week is not going do that much to their match fitness.

Is Taylor who has dropped a bollock in this game going to be doing league 1 then? You seem to think that is an appropriate punishment for making mistakes
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #578
SkyBlueSoul said:
Not sure how you got to "being stopped from reffing altogether". 1 week isn't going to render them incapable. Get them out the spotlight, spend a week training/analysing the mistake etc. while at the same time not belittling the Championship by using it as a punishment.
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You know they analyse every game with the ref team and observer at levels below the premier league
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #579
David O'Day said:
Stopping them reffing for 1 or 2 week is not going do that much to their match fitness.

Is Taylor who has dropped a bollock in this game going to be doing league 1 then? You seem to think that is an appropriate punishment for making mistakes
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Does stopping them from refereeing help them improve? That should be the only consideration, not finding suitable “punishment” to satisfy whichever set of fans they upset this week.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #580
SBT said:
Does stopping them from refereeing help them improve? That should be the only consideration, not finding suitable “punishment” to satisfy whichever set of fans they upset this week.
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The game is too subjective and we are trying to make every decision objective

Coach this morning going mental about a throw in ffs chill out it’s a f’in throw in
Almost fisticuffs as the club assistant gave an offside the parents didn’t agree with
U14 top division
To be fair to the players on both teams you were a credit and showed up the adults for what they were - cretins
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #581
SBT said:
Does stopping them from refereeing help them improve? That should be the only consideration, not finding suitable “punishment” to satisfy whichever set of fans they upset this week.
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stopping them for 1 match where they can spend the weekend looking at the mistakes they made and working out what went wrong
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #582
David O'Day said:
stopping them for 1 match where they can spend the weekend looking at the mistakes they made and working out what went wrong
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Is it going to take them all week? They can’t spare a few hours at the weekend to actually put these learnings into practice and do the job we’re hoping they can do?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #583
SBT said:
Is it going to take them all week? They can’t spare a few hours at the weekend to actually put these learnings into practice and do the job we’re hoping they can do?
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yeah, they also spend time watching games as well

your nonsense idea that making them ref 1 game in another division is ok isn't making them better either
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #584
David O'Day said:
yeah, they also spend time watching games as well

your nonsense idea that making them ref 1 game in another division is ok isn't making them better either
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Well tbh I think players and referees alike will generally benefit from actually taking part in games at some level, rather than watching them on TV.

Let’s be honest, the only reason people want to see refs suspended for making mistakes is because they feel like they’ve been personally wronged, and it makes them feel better to see someone get punished for it. It’s a childish mentality.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #585
Sky Blue Pete said:
The game is too subjective and we are trying to make every decision objective

Coach this morning going mental about a throw in ffs chill out it’s a f’in throw in
Almost fisticuffs as the club assistant gave an offside the parents didn’t agree with
U14 top division
To be fair to the players on both teams you were a credit and showed up the adults for what they were - cretins
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People going mental at kids games like its a World Cup final is cringey as fuck.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #586
SBT said:
Well tbh I think players and referees alike will generally benefit from actually taking part in games at some level, rather than watching them on TV.

Let’s be honest, the only reason people want to see refs suspended for making mistakes is because they feel like they’ve been personally wronged, and it makes them feel better to see someone get punished for it. It’s a childish mentality.
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utter nonsense

you can improve my study and taking a back seat, as you can in all areas of life

and it's nice to see you are getting personal when you really don't have an case
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #587
David O'Day said:
utter nonsense

you can improve my study and taking a back seat, as you can in all areas of life

and it's nice to see you are getting personal when you really don't have an case
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Where have I said they shouldn’t be studying?

Your argument would be easier to justify if there was a long conveyor belt full of competent refs ready to fill in whenever a ref makes a mistake and has to go for one of your mandated week-long time outs, but there isn’t.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #588
I suspect like teaching, and probably policing, the issue isn’t that refs are crap but that the job has been made more difficult so the average person can’t succeed.

Personally I think VAR is a fuck up in terms on implementation, but at least gives some certainty on big decisions when not being a fuck up. And the fuck ups are probably rarer than any one individual ref over a season.

Bring in tougher dissent rules, stop the ridiculous protection by secrecy and move to something closer to rugby culture for this (AND NOTHING ELSE!). And sort VAR/tech out for offsides/pens/goal line stuff.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #589
MusicDating said:

The impossible job: inside the world of Premier League referees

Players, pundits and fans complain bitterly that referees are getting worse each season – but is that fair?
www.theguardian.com

, how the fk do you celebrate a goal after a 5 min review?!
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Don’t we do that anyhow and what with the scarcity of them
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #590
Sky talking about his demotion to do our game
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #591
Have the championship stopped with the additional time stuff?
 
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robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2023
  • #592
Just watched the highlights show, and in Plymouth v Boro, there was an almost identical claim for a pen but there was full contact. The refs decision? goal kick. So much inconsistency among refs but Taylor was an actual joke in our game.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 6, 2023
  • #593
Preston time-wasting -

90th min - (Never a) freekick on far touchline - 37s
91st min - Corner (deliberately used the same ball from the shot rather than a multi-ball that was much closer) - 36s
92nd min - O'Hare chips it to their keeper - Has it 23s before he clears it
94th min - Freekick just in our half - 47s including a booking for timewasting
96th min - Throw in - 20s

Does play 7:51 of injury time, but that sad analysis of their time-wasting is just the last few mins!
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2023
  • #594

I see the Premier League fans have learnt of his decision. Wolves fans are as furious as us.
 
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AJB1983

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2023
  • #595
I get we’ve had a few decisions go our way this season (Wilson not getting sent off at qpr as an example), but if everything evens itself out over the season we’ve got an awful lot coming our way.
Consistency isn’t too much to ask for is it?
 
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