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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #36
Otis said:
Yup. If it gets rescinded, McFazdean is free to play against Wycombe, the goal is knocked off, the result is voided and we have to pay them again on Sunday.
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That’s ridiculous. They can’t.change a result when the game has been completed. We will get a one goal head start against Wycombe
 
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Briles

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #37
Frostie said:
Yes but the top of his arm i.e. the shirt sleeve which is NOT handball
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Was his armpit. You can't run around the pitch with the ball under your armpit.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #38
Johhny Blue said:
That’s ridiculous. They can’t.change a result when the game has been completed. We will get a one goal head start against Wycombe
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Are you sure about that? Unfair on Wycombe. I’m sure I’ve read in the EFL rule book (I know, hard to believe) that the next time we play Luton, at the start of the game it will be 1-0 to us, and they’ll have ten men.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #39
Briles said:
Was his armpit. You can't run around the pitch with the ball under your armpit.
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Because it’s obstruction not because it’s handball. And also because you can’t actually hold the ball under your armpit without your upper arm touching it
 

Frostie

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #40
Briles said:
Was his armpit. You can't run around the pitch with the ball under your armpit.
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Well no because it would be:
A) Obstruction
B) Physically impossible

"For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. "

Not handball
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #41
shmmeee said:
Because it’s obstruction not because it’s handball. And also because you can’t actually hold the ball under your armpit without your upper arm touching it
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The same as when you try and sit on the ball
 

fatso

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #42
Otis said:
Yup. If it gets rescinded, McFazdean is free to play against Wycombe, the goal is knocked off, the result is voided and we have to pay them again on Sunday.
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Why do we have to pay them?
Money is tight enough as it is!
 
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ccfc92

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #43
Did we appeal then?
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #44
Robins said they were but there is nothing on the official site and no result if they did
 
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steve cooper

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #45
shmmeee said:
Depends. I haven’t watched enough to see but if say it hit his shoulder then his hand it’s a pen but not a red. Otherwise yeah.
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Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s what I think. Someone else said it hit his knee on the way down.
can you imagine if it was upheld and the ref said he gave it although he didn’t see it
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I found this, it's premier league info but interesting if I read it correctly.

Premier League players will be allowed extra leeway when it comes to ricocheted handballs.
It is often impossible to avoid contact with the ball if it has deflected off the body of an opponent, team-mate, or even another part of the own player.
So a handball will not be awarded if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/nearby.

What's new in 2019/20: Handball rule change

See the main law amendments that Premier League players and fans will need to be aware in 2019/20
www.premierleague.com
 
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larry_david

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #46
Rejected. Pask in?
 

jordan210

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  • Mar 18, 2021
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samccov1987

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #48
Appeal rejected by fa - 2 match ban.

Bollocks
 

Frostie

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #49
Absolutely ludicrous
 

Briles

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #50
shmmeee said:
Because it’s obstruction not because it’s handball. And also because you can’t actually hold the ball under your armpit without your upper arm touching it
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I think they've seen it as I did
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #51
Was never going to be rescinded, definitely hand ball
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #52
Strange decision and not ideal at all given how Wycombe play. Big blow but the CBs have to step up and prove their worth.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #53
Not especially surprising, don’t think there was enough evidence that it definitely wasn’t handball.
 

Esoterica

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #54
Did the FA have 2 people standing between them and the monitor when they reviewed and decided that?
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #55
jordan210 said:
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What a surprise.
 
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Briles

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #56
Frostie said:
Well no because it would be:
A) Obstruction
B) Physically impossible

"For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. "

Not handball
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Was also physically impossible to stop that goal without his arm being in the way
 

Otis

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #57
Briles said:
Was also physically impossible to stop that goal without his arm being in the way
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Well, he finds it much more difficult to run and play football without it.
 

Frostie

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #58
Briles said:
Was also physically impossible to stop that goal without his arm being in the way
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Agreed.
But as you say it hit his armpit which is NOT handball.
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #59
That's life flat 4 at the back with osti and hyam would be good to see pask in there as he's not let the team down this season as Rose has been poor all season.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #60
Shame - need to press them back and Osti to boss them. Will be a back 4, or Pask to come in in alongside Hyam and Osti.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #61
Briles said:
I think they've seen it as I did
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Now you can be wrong together
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #62
jordan210 said:
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Magwitch1

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #63
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Strange decision and not ideal at all given how Wycombe play. Big blow but the CBs have to step up and prove their worth.
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It’s up to our outfield players to prevent centres and crosses & not give cheap free-kicks away.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #64
No surprise considering the incompetent FA. Im sure if it had been a Man Utd or Arsenal player it would have been overturned
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #65
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Not especially surprising, don’t think there was enough evidence that it definitely wasn’t handball.
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apart from the video?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #66
shmmeee said:
Now you can be wrong together
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It is amazing how some of the most vocal folk clearly don't know the laws of the game.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #67
David O'Day said:
apart from the video?
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The video in no way proves that it definitively didn’t hit his arm.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #68
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The video in no way proves that it definitively didn’t hit his arm.
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it shows it hit him above the line that is called the t-shirt line which as per the current laws says it is not handball
 
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Dickie

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #69
marcusp said:
No surprise considering the incompetent FA. Im sure if it had been a Man Utd or Arsenal player it would have been overturned
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If it was a Swansea player it would have been overturned. Corrupt as fuck.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 18, 2021
  • #70
Clearly his short shirt sleeve is too long as a delineation between arm and shoulder .
I think it's time for a Harry Enfield version with capped sleeves tbf.
 
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