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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,121
Frostie said:
Being totally pedantic McFadz, Kelly, Allen, Godden, Wilson & O'Hare have all played in the Championship - limited appearances admittedly.
Brandon Mason has played in the Premier League.

But your point still stands, there's very limited Championship experience there but then a lot of players were unproven in League 1 too.
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Fair enough I probably should've done my research before making that comment! Apart from Allen (whose time at Burton slipped my mind admittedly) and McFadz, limited appearances like you said.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,122
Unless we sell Godden to a L1 side for a couple of mill, or Wilson goes for £30m and not the £15m rumoured, I can’t see us getting anyone better in for that role TBH. Would Walker fit the one up role? Not sure.

I honestly think our system and style of play doesn’t lend itself to strikers scoring loads. I’d rather we got a solid CB in and someone like Sheaf if there’s money to spend. I’m more worried the defence won’t hold up.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,123
Dions Dong said:
I’m hung up on strikers specifically because looking at the rest of the squad in terms of depth I think we have sufficient quality to start the championship. The signings made to date are decent enough to give us options along with the players already on the books.

The strikers we have at present Leading us into the current campaign are not comparibly good enough (in my opinion) in terms of depth to make the step up which is why I am “hung up” on strikers.

Or shall we just keep signing midfielders?
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By your logic yes if we need 5 players competing per position!
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,124
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Fair enough I probably should've done my research before making that comment! Apart from Allen (whose time at Burton slipped my mind admittedly) and McFadz, limited appearances like you said.
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Your point was absolutely correct, I was just being pedantic!
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,125
shmmeee said:
Unless we sell Godden to a L1 side for a couple of mill, or Wilson goes for £30m and not the £15m rumoured, I can’t see us getting anyone better in for that role TBH. Would Walker fit the one up role? Not sure.

I honestly think our system and style of play doesn’t lend itself to strikers scoring loads. I’d rather we got a solid CB in and someone like Sheaf if there’s money to spend. I’m more worried the defence won’t hold up.
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No doubt we are in a weird position. Great to be in the Championship but we can't pay the silly money that the top end clubs do for the likes of Jordan Rhodes for example. It'd be great to snag someone on loan with a track record of sorts, I don't know where Jack Marriott sits in the pecking order at Derby but him on loan would be great. Other than that I think we need to try and pick a diamond from the rough. A Jobello type signing that may pay off big.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,126
Skybluefaz said:
No doubt we are in a weird position. Great to be in the Championship but we can't pay the silly money that the top end clubs do for the likes of Jordan Rhodes for example. It'd be great to snag someone on loan with a track record of sorts, I don't know where Jack Marriott sits in the pecking order at Derby but him on loan would be great. Other than that I think we need to try and pick a diamond from the rough. A Jobello type signing that may pay off big.
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Someone like Ugbo might have been good, but you’re still probably talking millions in loan fees and wages.

I’d like to see us bring someone in don’t get me wrong. I just don’t expect them to be a massive upgrade out the box.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,127
shmmeee said:
Someone like Ugbo might have been good, but you’re still probably talking millions in loan fees and wages.

I’d like to see us bring someone in don’t get me wrong. I just don’t expect them to be a massive upgrade out the box.
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I agree, I don't think we have the cash to bring in a ready made championship level striker.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,128
shmmeee said:
Unless we sell Godden to a L1 side for a couple of mill, or Wilson goes for £30m and not the £15m rumoured, I can’t see us getting anyone better in for that role TBH. Would Walker fit the one up role? Not sure.

I honestly think our system and style of play doesn’t lend itself to strikers scoring loads. I’d rather we got a solid CB in and someone like Sheaf if there’s money to spend. I’m more worried the defence won’t hold up.
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Agreed. Pask and Drysdale are exciting prospects, but I'd be hesitant to put faith in them to perform week in, week out at this level if we were unfortunate enough to suffer long term injuries to our starting CB's.

Sheaf can obviously play as a makeshift CB if necessary. But I also feel that we need further cover.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,129
Dions Dong said:
I’m hung up on strikers specifically because looking at the rest of the squad in terms of depth I think we have sufficient quality to start the championship. The signings made to date are decent enough to give us options along with the players already on the books.

The strikers we have at present Leading us into the current campaign are not comparibly good enough (in my opinion) in terms of depth to make the step up which is why I am “hung up” on strikers.

Or shall we just keep signing midfielders?
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We need more wingers & attacking midfielders mate
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,130
cc84cov said:
We need more wingers & attacking midfielders mate
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Is this a joke post?
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,131
Skybluefaz said:
I agree, I don't think we have the cash to bring in a ready made championship level striker.
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Looks that way I don’t see us spending anymore
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,132
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Agreed. Pask and Drysdale are exciting prospects, but I'd be hesitant to put faith in them to perform week in, week out at this level if we were unfortunate enough to suffer long term injuries to our starting CB's.

Sheaf can obviously play as a makeshift CB if necessary. But I also feel that we need further cover.
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Pask would've been a lot more involved last season if it weren't for injuries. He's much further ahead in his development than Drysdale. Drysdale is U23 squad, Pask most definitely first team squad. Certainly have him playing in his natural position over Sheaf playing slightly out of position every day. Sheaf himself is still inexperienced despite his loan last year.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,133
cc84cov said:
Looks that way I don’t see us spending anymore
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This close season has gone almost exactly the same as last a number of early signings then lots of rumours and with the new season on us Robins brought three Godden, O’Hare and Walsh all main players. Six weeks until the transfer window closes on October 5th and I’m certain he will be active transfer/signing wise right up to that point lets remember apart from Kasteneer all were positive signings and the return of Jones and Lobello are like two new signings, have patience and faith.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,134
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Pask would've been a lot more involved last season if it weren't for injuries. He's much further ahead in his development than Drysdale. Drysdale is U23 squad, Pask most definitely first team squad. Certainly have him playing in his natural position over Sheaf playing slightly out of position every day. Sheaf himself is still inexperienced despite his loan last year.
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Yeah I agree that Pask would probably have to be used over Sheaf (or whoever) given that CB is his natural position. But I think regardless of who starts over who, you can appreciate that collectively the experience just isn't there yet.

Therefore, the point remains really. I still think ideally we could do with further cover defensively, as in my opinion the numbers are still slightly on the thin side even with a versatile CDM/CB potentially coming in.

I can potentially see Drysdale and/or Williams being loaned out to gain first-team experience as well. I'm not sure how much of a benefit playing the majority of the season in the U23s would be for their development at this stage of their careers.
 
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AStonesThrow

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,135
19 year old striker Largie Ramzani, released by Man United, was highly rated during his time there. Worth a look?
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,136
Regarding the various comments about needing more experienced extra defensive cover, I honestly don't see the point unless it is a player expected to be a regular starter. We have Pask, Drysdale, Williams and even Thompson already at the club as back up and if you take the viewpoint that we can't play these because of their inexperience to its logical conclusion you get to realise that view is nonsensical. Until young players are given their chance as 1st teamers we will never learn if they are good enough. If MR believes they are ready and good enough then that's fine by me. Every player has to start somewhere!
 
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speedie87

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,137
I see bristol Cityhave signed a central midfielder today.....
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,138
It shows the level we’re going to a player who looked above the level to us is just another player to a mid table side
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,139
AStonesThrow said:
19 year old striker Largie Ramzani, released by Man United, was highly rated during his time there. Worth a look?
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I think he'd definitely be worth a look but there were strong rumours he'd got a move to Spain planned (Almeria I think).
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,140
Here's one... Macauly Bonne from Charlton. Had a good season and they'll probably be needing to sell.

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Magwitch

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,141
About to be taken over apparently.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,142
TomRad85 said:
Here's one... Macauly Bonne from Charlton. Had a good season and they'll probably be needing to sell.

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Haven't seen a lot of him, but bagged a few iirc? Not a bad shout. I'm still keen on the MK forward (who's that good his name's gone out of my head)
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,143
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Haven't seen a lot of him, but bagged a few iirc? Not a bad shout. I'm still keen on the MK forward (who's that good his name's gone out of my head
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Rhys Healey? Not a bad shout tbf

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Magwitch

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,144
speedie87 said:
I see bristol Cityhave signed a central midfielder today.....
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Dabo ?
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 20, 2020
  • #1,145
Magwitch said:
Dabo ?
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Winny the Bish

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,146
TomRad85 said:
Here's one... Macauly Bonne from Charlton. Had a good season and they'll probably be needing to sell.

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Reports from this week said Preston are considering a £500k bid. That's a bargain.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,147
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,148
Skybluefaz said:
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I got the impression that he was very similar to Chaplin in that he works best with a strike partner. If we're playing one up front I'm not convinced.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,149
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I got the impression that he was very similar to Chaplin in that he works best with a strike partner. If we're playing one up front I'm not convinced.
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He didn't stand out when we played Lincoln but on the Colin Murray highlight show produced some good finishes.
 

JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,150
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,151
Came across this on Twitter:
Recommends a striker from Romania called Gabriel Iancu: 6'2, good link-up play, can drop deep and scored 20 goals in 31 games this season. Anyone have Badlan's email?
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,152
Skybluefaz said:
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He went to Lincoln last season as we wanted him perm instead of loan, don't see why that would change now.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,153
Liquid Gold said:
He went to Lincoln last season as we wanted him perm instead of loan, don't see why that would change now.
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No idea, I'd suspect we would still want to sign him permanently if there is interest. The guy seems to be credible though, hence me dropping it in here.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,154
We need to make sure he doesn’t have a recall clause in the loan like with what happened at Lincoln
 
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Dions Dong

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  • Aug 21, 2020
  • #1,155
I thought the main reason he went to Lincoln was because he wanted to play with his best mate Jorge Grant?

either way would prefer a permanent deal, but a good addition if it comes off on loan or otherwisw
 
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