This is a murderer. So you'd consider all murders on a case by case basis. Perhaps mass murderers get a certificate of excellence and single murderers get tagged so they get another opportunity.
In the end I don’t think anyone would argue against the death penalty whatever their political spectrum for this individual
You'd think so wouldn't you ? However.....In the end I don’t think anyone would argue against the death penalty whatever their political spectrum for this individual
He stabbed lots of people sitting in a circle on the grass in a park. What's remorse got to do with it ? What a terrible thing to suggest - say sorry and we'll make life better for you.For vicious crimes like this where guilt is beyond doubt and there is no remorse, yes I agree.
Obviously this was going to be terror related just from reading what happened. Jail or deport the c**t.
Can you explain what you mean by this please?
When it is not a white person committing the crime the reaction is totally different.
Shouldn't it all be despicable?
When it is not a white person committing the crime the reaction is totally different.
Shouldn't it all be despicable?
nonsense.
There is a growing threat from extreme right terrorists and there are a growing number of incidents. They rarely get mentioned and they definitely don't get their own thread.
If a white bloke had done this we'd be on here saying shoot the bastard / string him up / put him in prison til he dies.When it is not a white person committing the crime the reaction is totally different.
Shouldn't it all be despicable?
You're just proving my point and that's why people get frustrated.
A terrorist attack has happened, quick let's talk about right wing terror.
It's all fucking awful and trying to have a reasoned debate on here is impossible.
He stabbed lots of people sitting in a circle on the grass in a park. What's remorse got to do with it ? What a terrible thing to suggest - say sorry and we'll make life better for you.
No ? Then you mean something else then .For vicious crimes like this where guilt is beyond doubt and there is no remorse, yes I agree.
all I've done is prove you wrong.
You said when a white person commits a crime it gets treated totally different, well it does but not in the way you're alluding to.
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We basically are up against two main terror threats in this country, the biggest threat, Islamists, (mainly non white), and next, the far right (mainly white), we don't have threads on the extreme right threat, that's a fact. The police have foiled far right terror plots in this country, we don't have threads on them. So your point is wrong.
You were the first person on this thread to mention left or right so therefore were the first person to weaponise this attack to make a political dig.
And we're 9 pages in and I have mentioned skin colour for the first time in response to a post from you mentioning skin colour. You bring up race quite often i'm beginning to have suspicions about you.
But yeah, you're the only one who can have reasonable debate.
It’s only boring because you’ve got nothing to add outside of shitty sound bites and whatever Boris tells you.This is getting boring now
all I've done is prove you wrong.
You said when a white person commits a crime it gets treated totally different, well it does but not in the way you're alluding to.
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We basically are up against two main terror threats in this country, the biggest threat, Islamists, (mainly non white), and next, the far right (mainly white), we don't have threads on the extreme right threat, that's a fact. The police have foiled far right terror plots in this country, we don't have threads on them. So your point is wrong.
You were the first person on this thread to mention left or right so therefore were the first person to weaponise this attack to make a political dig.
And we're 9 pages in and I have mentioned skin colour for the first time in response to a post from you mentioning skin colour. You bring up race quite often i'm beginning to have suspicions about you.
But yeah, you're the only one who can have reasonable debate.
If a white bloke had done this we'd be on here saying shoot the bastard / string him up / put him in prison til he dies.
When this news broke, did anyone on here ask his skin colour, whether he was a Muslim , Sikh, Hindu, church of England etc ?
Now gives similar attacks in recent years one might be forgiven for thinking it might me a Muslim extremist , given what has gone before. Let's face it, if a bomb went off at the NEC at a gig in the 1970s it would be assumed it was the IRA. In 2020 it would be assumed , rightly or not to be a Muslim extremist.
No ? Then you mean something else then .
think most people were saying wait and see though the suspicion would be that it was a Muslim.
Remember two girls got stabbed to death in a London park a few days a go and there has been no suggestion from the police that that was a terrorist attack.
I said the reactions are different, which is totally true. If they weren't we wouldn't be seeing so much arguing here.
You've also proved my second point which is to suggest I'm racist because of what I posted. That isn't an argument, and it isn't true anyway. But you know that.
If you want to open a thread on right wing terror attacks then go for it, I'll be happy to denounce all of it. The difference being that there is a lot less to talk about because it is a significantly lesser threat than option number 1.
I guess I'm racist for highlighting that too?
So what's remorse got to do with it? Why have you mentioned remorse? Or am I seeing things ?What are you on about? This guy carried out a vicious mass murder in broad daylight and has no remorse. It's a literal description of what he is and why I think the death penalty would be appropriate. What did you think I meant?
This apology of yours implies that remorse is a factor in the punishment for this type of crime. Its there. You wrote it.For vicious crimes like this where guilt is beyond doubt and there is no remorse, yes I agree.
So what's remorse got to do with it? Why have you mentioned remorse? Or am I seeing things ?
I hope your lesson plans are better than the crap you write on here.
Because genuine remorse points to some hope for long term rehabilitation, though it would again need to be proved beyond all doubt.
I don't know why you then jump to more personal insults. Not getting dragged into that.
He can throw himself on the Koran and plead repentance but personally I would not want him back on the streets so we end up with a character whose likely to spend 60 years in prison
He can throw himself on the Koran and plead repentance but personally I would not want him back on the streets so we end up with a character whose likely to spend 60 years in prison
In the end I don’t think anyone would argue against the death penalty whatever their political spectrum for this individual
Nah he will be protected.Maybe someone will kill him on the inside. Can live in hope.
Nah he will be protected.
It can never be proved beyond all doubt. Would you let Peter Sutcliffe out if he showed genuine remorse ? After all, he's done a fair stint already.Because genuine remorse points to some hope for long term rehabilitation, though it would again need to be proved beyond all doubt.
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