For what its worth I have supported Celtic all my life, I was born in Glasgow and I am proud to call myself a Scot - not the easiest stance being brought up in England, especially since our national team has always been a joke to the English, so I have had it ripped out of me since I can remember - going back to past posts regarding Celtic/Rangers Catholics/Protestants, I understand to a point the connection to/with Ireland as Brother Walfrid who was the founder of the Club was from Ireland - the Club was set up in 1888 to help feed the very poor of Glasgow's East End (Catholics and Protestants) these were mostly Irish immigrants that moved to Scotland during the famine - this link I understand it is part of our heritage and the club to this day still supports many charities it is in the clubs DNA - but my club Celtic like Rangers had been taken over by many that used clubs to point score (it is not as bad now) I have never been to Ireland, I have some relatives that live there but I don't even know there names - I support Celtic as it was my Scottish Fathers team and his before him, yes I don't like Rangers as my Rangers friends do not like Celtic - but all this IRA/UDA stuff is boring and to be honest most Celtic fans think its bollocks too! Rangers have their hard core element that talk the same bullshit - to harp on about the black and tans and a battle in 1690 is simply pathetic and has now place at Paradise - When I go to certain clubs and bars in Glasgow, when I go up the road to watch a game and when certain songs are sung it does embarrass me...I have never supported the IRA, and as the most recent incarnation of them were simply gangsters/vigilantes with a "cause" the same as the loyalist paramilitaries - I do understand the previous post that mentions the early history of the Irish war of independence - but that was over 90 years ago, what this has to do with Celtic Football Club in 2013 I am not sure - football and religion should not mix - and anyone claiming to be a Celtic supporter should not be in my opinion be making references to the RA, in the same sentence as Celtic - I apologse I know this is a Coventry City Forum ad this has not place here, but I just wanted you al to know that not all Celtic supporters are child murdering scum as someone pointed out in an earlier post.