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  • Start date Nov 8, 2021
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #71
fernandopartridge said:
The football club is not responsible for the provision of public transport, I agree with Boddy it should not have to fund any transport from anywhere.
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From what I can make out it was made the responsibility of the stadium operators to have a green travel plan in place so that 25% or less of people attending any event arrive by car.

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When the stadium first opened there were buses from all over the city, park and ride, park and walk and possibly other options I've forgotten about but that has all dropped away.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #72
fernandopartridge said:
The football club is not responsible for the provision of public transport, I agree with Boddy it should not have to fund any transport from anywhere.
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it's not their responsibility but would it beneficial for them to do it? Improve the matchday experience and make people more likely to return regularly?

A partnership with local bus/coach firms could help. Like others have said, increase the ticket price but offer free travel on certain services. The situation of travel to and from the ground cannot continue as it is, especially if crowds continue to be decent.
 
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AOM

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #73
Do the trains run for Wasps games or are they in the same boat as us?
If they also don't get a working train on matchdays, is it not also in their interests to get something up and running?
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #74
AOM said:
Do the trains run for Wasps games or are they in the same boat as us?
If they also don't get a working train on matchdays, is it not also in their interests to get something up and running?
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Nope and they have stopped doing shuttles to the ground from the station now.
 

AOM

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #75
pusbccfc said:
Nope and they have stopped doing shuttles to the ground from the station now.
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That's strange. Maybe cost cutting?
 
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Chip Batch

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #76
I went early on Saturday and got the train from town to the arena at 12:17. It took 7 minutes. We watched the early game on Sky in the new bar at the ground.

I’m only a 15 minute walk from the main station, so it was so easy compared to all the messing around trying to drive through heavy traffic and sit in the car park for half an hour after the game, park and walk from a mate’s house or get an Uber. It took all the hassle out of it. Though it does mean that it’s an early start on the beer. Not sure if I’ll want that every game, and wouldn’t midweek.

Such a shame the train can’t run as normal nearer the game - which from what I remember was the whole reason the station was built. Massive cock-up in the execution of it all from planning stage onwards. The public transport options up there are a joke. Especially in the current climate.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 9, 2021
  • #77
AOM said:
That's strange. Maybe cost cutting?
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They don't have the crowds for it.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 10, 2021
  • #78
chiefdave said:
Isn't there an issue that the trains can't turn round? I've got a vague memory of something being done at Nuneaton, and possibly Cov, stations to allow trains to go Cov - Ricoh - Bermuda and back.

There was also talk that there aren't enough trains to run a shuttle service as the track hasn't been upgraded to the latest specification. Not sure if that's true or just an excuse from the train company.

Is there any plan for the light rail system to cover that side of the city? Appreciate that is likely years away but would be handy to have as many options as possible.
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Yeah it’s on the planned route.

 

hill83

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  • Nov 10, 2021
  • #79
Chip Batch said:
I went early on Saturday and got the train from town to the arena at 12:17. It took 7 minutes. We watched the early game on Sky in the new bar at the ground.

I’m only a 15 minute walk from the main station, so it was so easy compared to all the messing around trying to drive through heavy traffic and sit in the car park for half an hour after the game, park and walk from a mate’s house or get an Uber. It took all the hassle out of it. Though it does mean that it’s an early start on the beer. Not sure if I’ll want that every game, and wouldn’t midweek.

Such a shame the train can’t run as normal nearer the game - which from what I remember was the whole reason the station was built. Massive cock-up in the execution of it all from planning stage onwards. The public transport options up there are a joke. Especially in the current climate.
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A 12:24 start on the beer for a 19:45 kickoff is a bit keen. Even for me.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Nov 10, 2021
  • #80
For all the use they get from it, they should do a “Beeching” and take the track up. It would make plenty of extra parking spaces we’ll need in the Premier League. Think of all the diesel fumes from the trains that run along there now, getting rid of them would help climate change too
 

Marty

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  • Nov 10, 2021
  • #81
Think they should also improve bicycle facilities, I emailed the Arena a few months ago regarding this but didn't hear back.

Just a small area to change and a few lockers to leave bags and equipment in. Wouldn't mind paying to use it either.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Nov 10, 2021
  • #82
I've been using the train for most games this season, 12.15 platform 4 direct to the Ricoh, I've also got it back on two occasions.
If the train isn't available they put replacement buses on from the station which i used for the Swansea game.
 
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Chip Batch

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #83
WestEndAgro said:
I've been using the train for most games this season, 12.15 platform 4 direct to the Ricoh, I've also got it back on two occasions.
If the train isn't available they put replacement buses on from the station which i used for the Swansea game.
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What time does it start running again after the game?
 
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covboy1987

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #84
Grendel said:
The station is tiny - even if trains were laid on there would only be two carriages and it would be total carnage
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How did these decision making people get into their position - The arena station was estimated cost at almost £13.6 million pounds to build back in 2016 (probably cost more) absolute pathetic of money as its hardly used - Building a platform to take at least 15 carriages would of course cost more but would have been used football/rugby/concerts – There was talk of converting old London tube stock
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #85
A proper train station would be a game changer for the stadium. It may actually be able to compete a bit more with the NEC.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #86
pusbccfc said:
A proper train station would be a game changer for the stadium. It may actually be able to compete a bit more with the NEC.
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My contacts at wasps are as frustrated as anyone in this, it’s why it’s a mayor issue to bang some heads together
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #87
Sky Blue Pete said:
My contacts at wasps are as frustrated as anyone in this, it’s why it’s a mayor issue to bang some heads together
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Hope any solutions he puts in place are more successful than the trams!
 
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Mcbean

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  • Nov 16, 2021
  • #88
Just to re iterate my posts in things that annoy you - wasps have put their truck on the motorcycle parking bay at the cbs !
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #89
Shambolic.

 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #90
Can see this being postponed. Got a feeling. WMP wont want this
 
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matesx

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #91
This has mayhem all over it.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #92
Agree

Think il be swerving this and watching from home.

4thousand pissed up angry brummies milling about unable to get home. In the dark, and hopefully after a loss, is a recipe for probably the worst disorder we've seen in a long time
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #93
Build two fences a few metres apart from the train station to the ground. Only sensible solution.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #94
robbiethemole said:
For all the use they get from it, they should do a “Beeching” and take the track up. It would make plenty of extra parking spaces we’ll need in the Premier League. Think of all the diesel fumes from the trains that run along there now, getting rid of them would help climate change too
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The pollution from a train running along a line is nothing compared to hundreds of cars.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #95
The southband platform has space for 6 car trains, the northbound has space for 3 car trains (which is stupid really). The platforms on each side should be sufficient for 6 cars and they should run a shuttle between Coventry and Nuneaton on matchdays. Birmingham fans can get the train to Coventry or Nuneaton and go from there.

It's frustrating that £80m+ was spent on the new car park building at Cov station yet the station has no actual extra capacity, talk about vanity.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #96
If they postpone it when will they play it? Infrastructure isn't going to magically appear. If they were that concerned about trouble they could bubble them like they do with Southampton v Portsmouth but it really would be overkill. If they are certain there is going to be trouble then just stick a line of police and stewards between the two sets of fans in the stadium and keep them in for 10 - 15 minutes at the end.

But as I keep saying unless we genuinely think our fans behaviour is worse than pretty much every other club in the country those sort of steps shouldn't be needed at a properly managed stadium.
fernandopartridge said:
The southband platform has space for 6 car trains, the northbound has space for 3 car trains (which is stupid really).
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When I was living down south the last train back from London was a slow train that stopped at every shitty little station. Some where the train was too long for the platform. Depending how short the platform was they'd either put out an announcement saying the last carriage or two wouldn't be opening doors and to move if you needed to get off at the next stop or they'd pull into the station for the first set of carriages and when they were sorted move the train a bit for the next set of carriages. Is there any reason that can't be done at the stadium to increase capacity?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #97
chiefdave said:
When I was living down south the last train back from London was a slow train that stopped at every shitty little station. Some where the train was too long for the platform. Depending how short the platform was they'd either put out an announcement saying the last carriage or two wouldn't be opening doors and to move if you needed to get off at the next stop or they'd pull into the station for the first set of carriages and when they were sorted move the train a bit for the next set of carriages. Is there any reason that can't be done at the stadium to increase capacity?
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It could be but I suppose it's probably easier to do with a common or garden train not one that is possibly full of football fans. That said, I don't think they have the trains to do it. It is a classic example of the stupidity of rail privatisation, it's a complete mess of non-aligned priorities.
 

Marty

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #98
chiefdave said:
If they postpone it when will they play it? Infrastructure isn't going to magically appear. If they were that concerned about trouble they could bubble them like they do with Southampton v Portsmouth but it really would be overkill. If they are certain there is going to be trouble then just stick a line of police and stewards between the two sets of fans in the stadium and keep them in for 10 - 15 minutes at the end.

But as I keep saying unless we genuinely think our fans behaviour is worse than pretty much every other club in the country those sort of steps shouldn't be needed at a properly managed stadium.

When I was living down south the last train back from London was a slow train that stopped at every shitty little station. Some where the train was too long for the platform. Depending how short the platform was they'd either put out an announcement saying the last carriage or two wouldn't be opening doors and to move if you needed to get off at the next stop or they'd pull into the station for the first set of carriages and when they were sorted move the train a bit for the next set of carriages. Is there any reason that can't be done at the stadium to increase capacity?
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It's hard enough as it is to get people to move past the entrance to the train as it is. Think best long term solution for the train is to build a separate line they can hold a good size train, and then release it after the kick off, then let the normal service pick up the stragglers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #99
chiefdave said:
Shambolic.

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Another game we can’t go to.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #100
robbiethemole said:
For all the use they get from it, they should do a “Beeching” and take the track up. It would make plenty of extra parking spaces we’ll need in the Premier League. Think of all the diesel fumes from the trains that run along there now, getting rid of them would help climate change too
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I hope Greta sees this expert understanding on fuel pollution. She will be wanting you on her team
 

AOM

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #101
Liquid Gold said:
Build two fences a few metres apart from the train station to the ground. Only sensible solution.
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And make Birmingham pay for it

 

ceetee

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #102
So much for the Green Travel Plan
 

Greggs

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #103
Anyone got a contact for the bloke that hired the ship on the thames Vs Charlton. I'm sure there's a gap in the market for a few dinghies on the canal.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #104
Greggs said:
Anyone got a contact for the bloke that hired the ship on the thames Vs Charlton. I'm sure there's a gap in the market for a few dinghies on the canal.
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HMP Somewhere
 

no_loyalty

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  • Nov 17, 2021
  • #105
Saddlebrains said:
Agree

Think il be swerving this and watching from home.

4thousand pissed up angry brummies milling about unable to get home. In the dark, and hopefully after a loss, is a recipe for probably the worst disorder we've seen in a long time
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Keep them in the ground for 20 mins after the game, although you would still get some of our idiots waiting for them to come out.
 
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