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torchomatic

torchomatic

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I have a feeling JG is that bloke in the Thirty-Nine Steps, Mr Memory.

Grappa said:
just because an idiot on the internet wants to make out he's a superhuman memory machine is another matter entirely.
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dongonzalos

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Grappa said:
It's been posted loads of times from the Trust Q&A but Sisu tried to negotiate a 3 year run off "ACL: Yes, Chris West and Paul Harris were advised post 29 January 2013 meeting during a follow up discussion with Tim Fisher, Mark Labovitch and John Clarke, that the Club wanted a three year run off period. This was totally rejected by the ACL representatives."

It's a cluster fuck, no doubt about it. But giving PWKH the benefit of doubt because he's better at the PR stuff than the others does our desire to get the club back no favours. Imo.
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I give him the benefit of the doubt as he has said nothing on here yet that I have since discovered to not be correct.

I struggle to give Tim Fisher the benefit of the doubt as he has said plenty that has not happened and turned out to be incorrect.

The three year run off is very different to a ten year deal that was offered (albeit apparently in the wrong circumstances) you know as well as I do if SISU asked for it today,they would get it.

However their boss is saying freehold only.

The three year run off would be an interesting one now.

I personally do not think it would particularly suit SISU.
 
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Jack Griffin

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Grappa said:
You really are a funny little chap aren't you.

I have never flounced from this or any other board. My previous account was hacked, I pm'd Nick asking him if he could sort it out, he tried to fix it but couldn't guarantee it wouldn't happen again so I politely asked him to close the account. No playing the hurt feelings card, no personal slights, no announcement that I was never going to post again. Again, I'm sure Nick will verify this as he'll have copies of our correspondence though whether he can actually be arsed just because an idiot on the internet wants to make out he's a superhuman memory machine is another matter entirely.
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Someone did as I said, it wasn't about hacking & had a thread to announce their departure.. so maybe it wasn't you..
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Is that because he refuses to answer any questions? As I said yesterday (with tongue in cheek) he should organise some fans forums with ACL/CCC to explain the situation and why they have made the decisions they have.

dongonzalos said:
I give him the benefit of the doubt as he has said nothing on here yet that I have since discovered to not be correct.
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stupot07

stupot07

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dongonzalos said:
I give him the benefit of the doubt as he has said nothing on here yet that I have since discovered to not be correct.

I struggle to give Tim Fisher the benefit of the doubt as he has said plenty that has not happened and turned out to be incorrect.

The three year run off is very different to a ten year deal that was offered (albeit apparently in the wrong circumstances) you know as well as I do if SISU asked for it today,they would get it.

However their boss is saying freehold only.

The three year run off would be an interesting one now.

I personally do not think it would particularly suit SISU.
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We don't know they would get it.
 
Astute

Astute

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stupot07 said:
No she didn't.


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Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
 
James Smith

James Smith

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stupot07 said:
I see you cherry picked your quotes from The Les Reid interview. What about the following paragraphs:

Sisu and its related firm Otium, which now runs the club, says a fair price for the Ricoh and the potential development land around it could be agreed by taking the average of each sides’ surveyors’ valuations, based on potential income.

“Realistically, this council don’t think they can work with me. I know I cannot work with them. It doesn’t mean I can’t negotiate a deal.




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Yes I did pick certain paragraphs out - you're quite correct but it wasn't because I was trying to be one sided - if you read it again I actually say we can't be 100% certain what was said. I picked those because they related to the July meeting where it is alleged that the freehold at her price comments were made. You said to dongonzalos that she didn't say that, and it's true that we don't know one way or the other, as we can only look at what she said about that meeting and what ACL said in their statement. I was actually only referring to the July meeting as she supposedly made the comments there and was agreeing with you that we don't know for certain what was actually said in that meeting we only have two published accounts by two hardly neutral parties.

The other pieces that you posted don't relate to the meeting or her comments at it and therefore I didn't include them. The first one is attributed Otium which as far as I'm aware Joy Seppala is not legally a director of. The second just re-states something we already knew which is that Joy has alienated the council and vice versa, but she still thinks she can get a deal out of it.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Absolutely, despite your sycophantic ACL lovefest you won't keep me off this board!

Astute said:
...that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side.

But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots?
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Astute

Astute

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torchomatic said:
Is that because he refuses to answer any questions? As I said yesterday (with tongue in cheek) he should organise some fans forums with ACL/CCC to explain the situation and why they have made the decisions they have.
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We all agree that negotiations should be made in private but at the same time we want on e side to tell us everything? :facepalm:
 
stupot07

stupot07

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James Smith said:
Yes I did pick certain paragraphs out - you're quite correct but it wasn't because I was trying to be one sided - if you read it again I actually say we can't be 100% certain what was said. I picked those because they related to the July meeting where it is alleged that the freehold at her price comments were made. You said to dongonzalos that she didn't say that, and it's true that we don't know one way or the other, as we can only look at what she said about that meeting and what ACL said in their statement. I was actually only referring to the July meeting as she supposedly made the comments there and was agreeing with you that we don't know for certain what was actually said in that meeting we only have two published accounts by two hardly neutral parties.

The other pieces that you posted don't relate to the meeting or her comments at it and therefore I didn't include them. The first one is attributed Otium which as far as I'm aware Joy Seppala is not legally a director of. The second just re-states something we already knew which is that Joy has alienated the council and vice versa, but she still thinks she can get a deal out of it.
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Apologies James, hadn't realised that was the angle you were coming from
 
lordsummerisle

lordsummerisle

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Astute said:
Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
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Can see a flounce coming on.
 
James Smith

James Smith

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stupot07 said:
Apologies James, hadn't realised that was the angle you were coming from
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No worries, what I'd like to see is evidence from both sides about that meeting (although ideally about everything in this sorry mess ;)) after we're out of Northampton - but I think my lottery numbers have more chance tonight than that.
 
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Astute

Astute

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Yeah really?

I can see more SISU apologetic comments coming myself.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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torchomatic

torchomatic

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[video=youtube;K32Adi8nmzA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K32Adi8nmzA[/video]

Astute said:
Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
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stupot07

stupot07

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Astute said:
Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
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Someone's having a meltdown...
 
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torchomatic

torchomatic

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stupot07

stupot07

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James Smith said:
No worries, what I'd like to see is evidence from both sides about that meeting (although ideally about everything in this sorry mess ;)) after we're out of Northampton - but I think my lottery numbers have more chance tonight than that.
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You're not wrong.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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torchomatic

torchomatic

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[video=youtube;iN45OjB-cCU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN45OjB-cCU[/video]

Astute said:
More of a man than you could ever be :claping hands:
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Astute

Astute

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So has there been any more news about the talks? If not at least it has all gone quiet which can only be good news. I just hope we don't start hearing from one side. That will be end of any talks.
 
Samo

Samo

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Astute said:
Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
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Wow! Do you think you might be a tad over emotional?
 
stupot07

stupot07

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Astute said:
Just pointing out where you are either being untruthful or pretending you know nothing again.
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Untruthful? I have not seen or heard any direct quote other than ACL hearsay that she said that in a meeting. PWKH was asked on here but he couldnt confirm because he wasn't there. The ML radio interview that took place directly after the first game the season denied it was said.

Just because ACL say something it doesn't make it fact, likewise just because sisu/Tim, etc say something doesn't make it fact.

People keep banding about her price or no price around as a fact, unless you can provide me with evidence it is not a fact and is just another inflammatory statement that gets fans riled up.

I am not a sisu apologist, I have not been to sixfields and I'm not anti ACL.

Find me some direct quotes or evidence and I will hold my hands up and apologise and say I got it wrong.
 
Nonleagueherewecome

Nonleagueherewecome

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Astute said:
Oh yes she did.

Yet again one of the about 6 posters that says that they are unbiased on the situation but only trying to have a go at one side. Selling your soul so you don't have to travel outside Coventry to see our team.

Personal attacks do nothing. So all the bitching off a few people pissed me off so much that I said I have had enough. I still feel the same about the bullshit coming from certain people. But why should I keep away just because of a couple of complete idiots? You can say what you want. We all know what the truth is. What is the use of saying things like SISU are mainly at fault but saying nothing about them but attacking everything and everyone else? Some people would love me not to post on here. One less to point out the bullshit they constantly come out with. Joy said that she only wants the freehold and at her price. That was when she admitted that Timothy had been bullshitting us.

Well done lads for backing SISU all the way whilst pretending you are unbiased. Hope you are proud they have taken us to Northampton. Well done for the personal attacks against people protesting on the move. Well done for the personal attacks against people who care about our club. And I hope you are proud of backing them if our club goes any lower than SISU have already taken us.
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Absolutely spot on. If these people are so bloody neutral, where are their posts criticising SISU/Otium as much as they do ACL/CCC? Every so often you'll get a post from them "admitting" that SISU are "partly to blame", but that's purely part of their defence to carrying on being massively biased 99.9% of the rest of the time and bolster their claim to be even-handed when they clearly aren't.


I find some people's attitude to PWKH pretty sickening, too. I like him because:

1) He wants the best for CCFC and their supporters.
2) He comes on here and tells us things when he doesn't have to-unlike anyone else involved in this mess.
3) He is IMO genuine and honest. He's a normal human being: compare and contrast with that c**t Fisher!
4) I agree with him on almost everything he says.
5) Everyone who criticises him on here is generally someone who I totally disagree with on everything.
6) I thought the balloon incident was funny. Only surpassed in hilarity by the hilarious over-reaction to it by people on here...I can't believe anyone really thinks that was a serious occurrence!
 
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