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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 28, 2022
  • #456
SBT said:
Didn't you literally say the same thing before the Euros, only to eventually go on about how marvellous and nerve-wracking the tournament was?
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Well i mean there is a myriad of differences between that and this isnt there?

But yes good memory
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #457
Oh dear

World Cup 2022: England manager Gareth Southgate criticised for Qatar worker comments - BBC Sport
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 2, 2022
  • #458
I go and watch pretty much all of England’s home games and get to as many aways as I can but do you know what, I could be sitting on a winning Lottery ticket tonight and I would still have no motivation to go
 
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alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #459
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Oh dear

World Cup 2022: England manager Gareth Southgate criticised for Qatar worker comments - BBC Sport
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To be honest, I don’t think there was an answer that Southgate could have given to that that wouldn’t have seen him get any stick
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #460
Did anyone see the documentary on ITV, State of Fear? Not good at all. And then there is this in the news today.
But former Qatar international Khalid Salman has given a very different reflection of the attitude towards homosexuality. "They have to accept our rules here," Salman told German television broadcaster ZDF. "(Homosexuality) is haram. You know what haram (forbidden) means?”

When asked why it was haram, Salman said: "I am not a strict Muslim, but why is it haram? Because it is damage in the mind." The interview, which is due to be broadcast in full in Germany on Tuesday, was then immediately stopped by an official.
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Qatar World Cup ambassador calls homosexuality "damage in the mind"

Organisers for the Qatar World Cup have continually claimed LGBTQ+ fans will be respected in the country, but an ambassador as given a different impression on the eve of the tournament
www.mirror.co.uk
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #461
chiefdave said:
Did anyone see the documentary on ITV, State of Fear? Not good at all. And then there is this in the news today.

Qatar World Cup ambassador calls homosexuality "damage in the mind"

Organisers for the Qatar World Cup have continually claimed LGBTQ+ fans will be respected in the country, but an ambassador as given a different impression on the eve of the tournament
www.mirror.co.uk
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Just mad
 
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #462
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just mad
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Backward and dangerous.

In fairness, the bible says much worse…
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #463
If they're banning homosexuals from this world cup I think it's only fair the next one bans homophobes
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #464
Liquid Gold said:
If they're banning homosexuals from this world cup I think it's only fair the next one bans homophobes
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Cool. Hole and whole and creak and creek always confuse me anyway.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #465
Shit time of year, manager that loves dull football and a venue run by psychopaths. I’ll pass
 
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SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #466
Typical we’re on a great run and the World Cup stops it!!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #467
What a c**t.

World Cup 2022: Awarding Qatar the tournament was a mistake, says former Fifa president Sepp Blatter

The Gulf state has been criticised for its stance on same-sex relationships, human rights record and treatment of migrant workers.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #468
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What a c**t.

World Cup 2022: Awarding Qatar the tournament was a mistake, says former Fifa president Sepp Blatter

The Gulf state has been criticised for its stance on same-sex relationships, human rights record and treatment of migrant workers.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Australia missed out in favour of Qatar-says everything
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #469
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What a c**t.

World Cup 2022: Awarding Qatar the tournament was a mistake, says former Fifa president Sepp Blatter

The Gulf state has been criticised for its stance on same-sex relationships, human rights record and treatment of migrant workers.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Was all OK while he was pocketing a wedge though....
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #470
I wouldn't be surprised if the World Cup doesn't get completed. I can see teams pulling out of the tournament if things start to get heated in Qatar.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #471
Deleted member 9744 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the World Cup doesn't get completed. I can see teams pulling out of the tournament if things start to get heated in Qatar.
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No way the government or FIFA will let that happen, everything will be stage managed and quashed, the media won’t report anything and everyone will move on again after. They have had 12 years to quash this tournament and money still speaks louder than the realism of football or humanity.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #472
Deleted member 9744 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the World Cup doesn't get completed. I can see teams pulling out of the tournament if things start to get heated in Qatar.
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If teams can go motor racing in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia etc, if boxing can happen in those countries... then they'll find a way for football to happen without incident.

(No idea if there have been other occasions, but last country to lose a world cup at short notice would have been Colombia in 1986, and they gave nearly four years notice!)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #473
Deleted member 5849 said:
If teams can go motor racing in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia etc, if boxing can happen in those countries... then they'll find a way for football to happen without incident.

(No idea if there have been other occasions, but last country to lose a world cup at short notice would have been Colombia in 1986, and they gave nearly four years notice!)
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Those events are in those places for much less time than the World Cup, but I agree they found a way to whitewash the bribery that landed the tournament in the first place so they'll do it again for any wrongdoings
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #474
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Those events are in those places for much less time than the World Cup, but I agree they found a way to whitewash the bribery that landed the tournament in the first place so they'll do it again for any wrongdoings
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Plus I'd imagine not as many people traveling to them. People turning up for a weekend at the F1 is going to be a lot different to large numbers of football fans turning up for a month
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #475
chiefdave said:
Plus I'd imagine not as many people traveling to them. People turning up for a weekend at the F1 is going to be a lot different to large numbers of football fans turning up for a month
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They're going to knock the stadiums down afterwards too.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #476
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Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
No way the government or FIFA will let that happen, everything will be stage managed and quashed, the media won’t report anything and everyone will move on again after. They have had 12 years to quash this tournament and money still speaks louder than the realism of football or humanity.
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I wouldn't expect our Government or FIFA to do anything of course. But maybe some teams with more enlightened Government support might walk out if things go badly in Qatar.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #477
Deleted member 9744 said:
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I wouldn't expect our Government or FIFA to do anything of course. But maybe some teams with more enlightened Government support might walk out if things go badly in Qatar.
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I doubt it. The situation over there is pretty clear.

If teams started to walk out after a loss or two then their stance is going to look pretty hypocritical.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #478
Bellingham has been absolutely dreadful for Dortmund tonight. The whole team looked poor, but him in particular was shocking. Not the kind of performance you want to put in two days before the selection is made.
 

Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #479
Deleted member 9744 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the World Cup doesn't get completed. I can see teams pulling out of the tournament if things start to get heated in Qatar.
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Would absolutely love it if this happened. I enjoy watching England at tournaments and despite Southgates likely negative tactics, we have a good chance of progressing.

However, would be happy to sacrifice all that if a world stance was taken at such a high profile event to show how backwards and horrible a country it is, while also completely embarrassing the shambles that is FIFA.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 8, 2022
  • #480
Be cool if some attending each took a flag of the individual rainbow colours each and then when in the ground, put them all together to form the rainbow flag.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #481
Something for those of you with kids perhaps?

World Cup 2022 Qatar Wallchart

Plasticine illustrator, animator, stuntman, children's entertainer, astronaut, compulsive liar, and now officially stand-up comedian.
www.quinkyart.com
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #482
Great_Expectations said:
Would absolutely love it if this happened. I enjoy watching England at tournaments and despite Southgates likely negative tactics, we have a good chance of progressing.

However, would be happy to sacrifice all that if a world stance was taken at such a high profile event to show how backwards and horrible a country it is, while also completely embarrassing the shambles that is FIFA.
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Guess you are refusing to watch any of the tournament then?
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #483
Great_Expectations said:
Would absolutely love it if this happened. I enjoy watching England at tournaments and despite Southgates likely negative tactics, we have a good chance of progressing.

However, would be happy to sacrifice all that if a world stance was taken at such a high profile event to show how backwards and horrible a country it is, while also completely embarrassing the shambles that is FIFA.
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Grendel said:
Guess you are refusing to watch any of the tournament then?
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Fuck the Wasps
Fuck Sisu
Fuck Qatar
But I'll be watching too.

That's the problem/beauty of football.

It'll take an awful lot to keep us away from the telly. And I doubt we're anywhere near that yet.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #484
Am I missing something here? I do think it is awful that Qatar think of homosexuality in such a backward and completely outdated fashion, but what is the difference between going over for the World Cup and going over for a holiday, which I am sure many Brits do?

Just checked and approximately 10,000 visas are issued every year to Brits to visit Qatar

Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. Homosexuality is illegal there too. How many Brits visit those countries year after year? Many, many thousands is my guess. See what I am getting at?

I know the World Cup shouldn't have gone to Qatar, but isn't there a degree of hypocrisy here in all this?

Why are we happy to go on holiday to these places (and I bet we do respect their laws when we do), but going to Qatar for the World Cup kicks up a stink?

I know it's the world stage and all that, but still...

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #485
Otis said:
and I bet we do respect their laws when we do
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Some of those countries are a big draw for workers too, because of tax breaks and benefits. They have an underground drinking / partying culture which is tolerated by the authorities, as long as it's kept underground so doesn't bring public shame.

It's all very hypocritical really.
 
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stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #486
Otis said:
Am I missing something here? I do think it is awful that Qatar think of homosexuality in such a backward and completely outdated fashion, but what is the difference between going over for the World Cup and going over for a holiday, which I am sure many Brits do?

Just checked and approximately 10,000 visas are issued every year to Brits to visit Qatar

Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. Homosexuality is illegal there too. How many Brits visit those countries year after year? Many, many thousands is my guess. See what I am getting at?

I know the World Cup shouldn't have gone to Qatar, but isn't there a degree of hypocrisy here in all this?

Why are we happy to go on holiday to these places (and I bet we do respect their laws when we do), but going to Qatar for the World Cup kicks up a stink?

I know it's the world stage and all that, but still...

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And a fair chunk of the Carribean, or at least it was not too long ago I’m sure.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #487

Homosexuality: The countries where it is illegal to be gay

The US vice president's vocal support for LGBTQ rights has drawn criticism on her tour of African countries.
www.bbc.com
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #488
Otis said:
Am I missing something here? I do think it is awful that Qatar think of homosexuality in such a backward and completely outdated fashion, but what is the difference between going over for the World Cup and going over for a holiday, which I am sure many Brits do?

Just checked and approximately 10,000 visas are issued every year to Brits to visit Qatar

Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. Homosexuality is illegal there too. How many Brits visit those countries year after year? Many, many thousands is my guess. See what I am getting at?

I know the World Cup shouldn't have gone to Qatar, but isn't there a degree of hypocrisy here in all this?

Why are we happy to go on holiday to these places (and I bet we do respect their laws when we do), but going to Qatar for the World Cup kicks up a stink?

I know it's the world stage and all that, but still...

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Roughly 0.016% of the country obtains a visa to visit Qatar each year. I'd bet most have family ties or business interests over there. I don't think based on those numbers you can conclude that "We" are happy to go on holiday there.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #489
Skybluefaz said:
Roughly 0.016% of the country obtains a visa to visit Qatar each year. I'd bet most have family ties or business interests over there. I don't think based on those numbers you can conclude that "We" are happy to go on holiday there.
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Egypt?
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 9, 2022
  • #490
Grendel said:
Egypt?
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