"Protest" Scarves (1 Viewer)

shmmeee · Jul 22, 2014

Leamington Pete said:
I believe copyright law protects an image for 70 years from its creation, so in the case of the old crest it might be free from copyright unless the image rights have been bought.

That's a fairly recent extension as well, don't get me started on the idiocy and counterproductiveness of modern copyright laws.

The original Coat of Arms would be well in the public domain considering it's a few hundred years old.

The problem I think comes from the specific interpretation. If that particular logo was made for the council say 5 years ago then it could still be in copyright. I know the modern coat of arms came in in the 50s, so I'd assume the old one is well out of copyright by now. Probably better to stick to that (without the phoenix) to avoid legal issues.

Nick · Jul 22, 2014

This one?

shmmeee · Jul 22, 2014

Nick said:
This one?

No. The City Coat of Arms, this one:

Nick · Jul 22, 2014

Any of these suit? I had a spare minute and Illustrator open!

tuousis · Jul 22, 2014

ccfcway said:
can we have 2 turkeys on one side and an eagle on the other ?

Leave Turkey Tim out of this.

Leamington Pete · Jul 22, 2014

Like the idea of basically creating a City scarf to represent the early years. Says it all really. We were in Cov a hundred years ago and should be in Cov now.

Marty · Jul 22, 2014

Nick, I'd go with something like that, but i think it's being over complicated now with badges and stuff. keep it nice and simple with plenty of money to make for chairty.

mark82 · Jul 22, 2014

Marty said:
Nick, I'd go with something like that, but i think it's being over complicated now with badges and stuff. keep it nice and simple with plenty of money to make for chairty.

Agree. I liked the original simple design. Equal red and green.

TheOldFive · Jul 22, 2014

What's wrong with Sky Blue?

King of the Lesbians · Jul 22, 2014

Nick said:
Any of these suit? I had a spare minute and Illustrator open!

View attachment 3624

Wasn't there a chappie on a few months back redesigning the logo for his art project?
Can't remember if any of his designs were any good mind...

mark82 · Jul 22, 2014

TheOldFive said:
What's wrong with Sky Blue?

If you want one of them go here:

www.ccfcshop.co.uk

Would hardly stand out sky blue would it?

mark82 · Jul 22, 2014

King of the Lesbians said:
Wasn't there a chappie on a few months back redesigning the logo for his art project?
Can't remember if any of his designs were any good mind...

Well remembered. Will have a search.

mark82 · Jul 22, 2014

King of the Lesbians said:
Wasn't there a chappie on a few months back redesigning the logo for his art project?
Can't remember if any of his designs were any good mind...

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...iversity-Project)-FINAL-DESIGN?highlight=logo

SkyblueBazza · Jul 22, 2014

King of the Lesbians said:
Wasn't there a chappie on a few months back redesigning the logo for his art project?
Can't remember if any of his designs were any good mind...

Just replace the castle on the elephant with the Ricoh?

PUSB

shmmeee · Jul 23, 2014

I agree just the colours is probably best, I just thought if it was a badge, it was best to go with one out of copyright.

The Gentleman · Jul 23, 2014

Don't Coventry United play in red and green?

lewys33 · Jul 23, 2014

shmmeee said:
I agree just the colours is probably best, I just thought if it was a badge, it was best to go with one out of copyright.

Coventry City badge is not copyright as far as I am aware. Did a bit of research on it before (from TnS days) and it can't be copyright because it is too close to the badge of Coventry.

lewys33 · Jul 23, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Part of the reason McGinnity wanted to change the badge was the problems they had with copyrighting it, as it had elements of the civic crest in. So start from the civic crest for your badge.

Apologies - just seen this!

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 23, 2014

lewys33 said:
Apologies - just seen this!

At least someone did

Marty · Jul 23, 2014

Any update on this? Would it be worth getting a list of members who are willing to pay up front, so we can get the ball rolling.

Nick · Jul 23, 2014

Haven't had chance today but will make a couple of threads tomorrow and do some on trying to drum up interest.

mark82 · Jul 23, 2014

The Gentleman said:
Don't Coventry United play in red and green?

Yes, because they are the civic colours of Coventry. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

The Gentleman · Jul 23, 2014

mark82 said:
Yes, because they are the civic colours of Coventry. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

If we want to do something about Coventry City FC why would we wear the colours of another team, especially one that some on here have a problem with that team being in direct competition to CCFC. Almost like free advertising for Coventry United with scarfs walking round the city with their colours. The colour has to be relevant to CCFC now because it is now that we have the problems and it is the colour that most CCFC can relate to.

lewys33 · Jul 24, 2014

The Gentleman said:
If we want to do something about Coventry City FC why would we wear the colours of another team, especially one that some on here have a problem with that team being in direct competition to CCFC. Almost like free advertising for Coventry United with scarfs walking round the city with their colours. The colour has to be relevant to CCFC now because it is now that we have the problems and it is the colour that most CCFC can relate to.

Are you saying MUFC fans were advertising for Norwich then? Bet Deliah was loving that! Maybe her whole "where are you" speech was misunderstood.

mark82 · Jul 24, 2014

The Gentleman said:
If we want to do something about Coventry City FC why would we wear the colours of another team, especially one that some on here have a problem with that team being in direct competition to CCFC. Almost like free advertising for Coventry United with scarfs walking round the city with their colours. The colour has to be relevant to CCFC now because it is now that we have the problems and it is the colour that most CCFC can relate to.

It's relevant to CCFCs history. Not sure why people see Coventry United as a big threat. They are many divisions below Sphinx. Are Sphinx a threat to us too?

MichaelCCFC · Jul 24, 2014

lewys33 said:
Are you saying MUFC fans were advertising for Norwich then? Bet Deliah was loving that! Maybe her whole "where are you" speech was misunderstood.

To be fair everyone I've asked about this likes the idea of a scarf but not the red and green colours. Man U's worked because of the ridiculous media exposure they get. The sky blue ribbon is recognised as symbolising our plight so a scarf based on that might be an option. CJ posted something on a different thread too

kg82 · Jul 24, 2014

How do people not get that if we just have a load of scarves in sky blue and white it just looks like our supporters wearing scarves and supporting the team? Using the civic colours is in support of the whole city. Coventry United... They've been going a year!! The idea of the scarves is for national attention again. Do you really think Joe Bloggs up in Manchester is going to think "morons, those are Coventry United colours" when it's been explained to him what it's for?!

Anyway Nick, how's the looking around coming on? Think we'll be able to get them for the first game of the season?

Nick · Jul 24, 2014

MichaelCCFC said:
To be fair everyone I've asked about this likes the idea of a scarf but not the red and green colours. Man U's worked because of the ridiculous media exposure they get. The sky blue ribbon is recognised as symbolising our plight so a scarf based on that might be an option. CJ posted something on a different thread too

What colours or feedback did they give? Would a sky blue scarf not just be the same as getting one from the store?

Nick · Jul 24, 2014

kg82 said:
How do people not get that if we just have a load of scarves in sky blue and white it just looks like our supporters wearing scarves and supporting the team? Using the civic colours is in support of the whole city. Coventry United... They've been going a year!! The idea of the scarves is for national attention again. Do you really think Joe Bloggs up in Manchester is going to think "morons, those are Coventry United colours" when it's been explained to him what it's for?!

Anyway Nick, how's the looking around coming on? Think we'll be able to get them for the first game of the season?

Have had a few prices so will put some posts up asking for feedback later

kg82 · Jul 24, 2014

Nick said:
Have had a few prices so will put some posts up asking for feedback later

Nice one

Nick · Jul 28, 2014

From the Poll I think the results are a simple red and green scarf with no logos or anything for less than a tenner and the money to go to a Local or Children's Charity.

I have been hectic at work the past 4 days so not had chance to do much more with it. Waiting on a couple of people to get back to me in terms of funding also.

mark82 · Jul 28, 2014

How many responses did you get Nick?

Still think that to be effective this needs either trust or telegraph backing.

Nick · Aug 2, 2014

Got 2 samples in the post, will post pics up

I think the Trust are willing to back it!!

wingy · Aug 2, 2014

Nick said:
Got 2 samples in the post, will post pics up

I think the Trust are willing to back it!!

Good Lad!!

kg82 · Aug 3, 2014

Nick said:
Got 2 samples in the post, will post pics up

I think the Trust are willing to back it!!

This is excellent

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