Premier league- CCFC (1 Viewer)

Pusb1 · Aug 11, 2018

With the start of the PL season today it had me thinking...

Being late 20's.. will i ever see CCFC in the premierleague again in my lifetime?

What year will it be when we next break our transfer record for a player does everyone think? Surely Robbie Keane won't hold the award forever?

Sick Boy · Aug 11, 2018

Pusb1 said:
With the start of the PL season today it had me thinking...

Being late 20's.. will i ever see CCFC in the premierleague again in my lifetime?

What year will it be when we next break our transfer record for a player does everyone think? Surely Robbie Keane won't hold the award forever?

I'm 33 so grew up with us in the PL but I'm not convinced we will get back there before I'm 50. I think Bellamy cost half a million more than Keane.

Terry_dactyl · Aug 11, 2018

I think an interesting question is do we want to go back to the premier league? I suppose we do but I speak to a fair few that say it’s not worth it.

Astute · Aug 11, 2018

I don't understand those who are not interested in us getting back to the Prem.

Just getting there would pay for a new stadium. Don't spend stupid money trying to stay for another season or two. Then have the squad and money to be able to compete in the Championship.

I would be happy to become a yoyo side.

Skybluefaz · Aug 11, 2018

I'd absolutely love to be back in the Premier league. I watched some of the best players in the world growing up, sometimes we'd even put them to shame. It does seem a long way off. If we can get back in the championship though we're only a good season away. There are so many big clubs in the championship though now it'd be great to be playing against them again too.

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Aug 11, 2018

No & the big clubs will breakaway into some European super leagues in the next 20 years, probably a lot sooner.

Terry_dactyl · Aug 11, 2018

Astute said:
I don't understand those who are not interested in us getting back to the Prem.

Just getting there would pay for a new stadium. Don't spend stupid money trying to stay for another season or two. Then have the squad and money to be able to compete in the Championship.

I would be happy to become a yoyo side.

Yeah me too. I was reading today how Warnock has said Cardiff aren’t going to spend silly money this season, just in case they go down.
I remember Charlton under curbishley took a few years to establish themselves. Of current sides, for me, Burnley should be the blueprint to aspire to. Although I guess there’s a lot of luck involved...

Sick Boy · Aug 11, 2018

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
No & the big clubs will breakaway into some European super leagues in the next 20 years, probably a lot sooner.

People have been saying that for the last 15 years

Magwitch · Aug 11, 2018

With our current owner no chance of Premiership,ever. I think the thought of the championship never mind the Prem. frightens her to death. Mark Robins has had a good go this summer brought some decent players in young too, but our best will be sold leaving Robins with the loose change and the same issues next season. Championship players transferred within the championship are selling for 4/5/6 million, Reading have just shelled out £1.5million for our star man, a fourth division player last season, to be on the bench,no way will sisu okay spending that sort of dosh even if we fill the Ricoh every week.

Hobo · Aug 11, 2018

Pusb1 said:
With the start of the PL season today it had me thinking...

Being late 20's.. will i ever see CCFC in the premierleague again in my lifetime?

What year will it be when we next break our transfer record for a player does everyone think? Surely Robbie Keane won't hold the award forever?

We are nowhere near because we don't have the financial infra structure. Personally I wouldn't want us there, too risky financially and a season of being whipping boys. Unless things change dramatically we would struggle with the financial requirements of being competitive in the Championship.

Warwickhunt · Aug 11, 2018

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
No & the big clubs will breakaway into some European super leagues in the next 20 years, probably a lot sooner.

after brexit will force the issue because the rules on foreign players will change to that of outside of europe. Currently being reported that 152 current premier league players in their squads would not get International clearance to play in the UK going forward.:joyful:

Magwitch · Aug 11, 2018

Warwickhunt said:
after brexit will force the issue because the rules on foreign players will change to that of outside of europe. Currently being reported that 152 current premier league players in their squads would not get International clearance to play in the UK going forward.:joyful:

Then the big boys with their Premiership money will swoop for the next best probably out of the championship who in turn will nick the next best out of division one and so on. Also don’t you think this scenario has been scrutinised by all the clubs likely to be affected and that’s IF brexit happens

clint van damme · Aug 11, 2018

I'm 51 and I'll be very surprised if I ever see us in the PL again.
Something I personally couldn't give 2 fucks about but would like us to get back for the sake of the younger supporters.

Lost_Mackem · Aug 11, 2018

It’s overrated, it’s good for a few years but the novelty soon wears off when you are watching a bunch of mercenaries stroll around on their way to another defeat.

Something needs to be done to level out the playing field because at the moment you have a situation where 14 clubs are essentially there to just be cannon fodder.

What’s the point when the best you can ever hope for as a fan is to maybe see your team finish in mid table obscurity in the top flight?

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 11, 2018

Would be good to not be resigned to losing talented players to clubs who are shit at developing their own talent because they've bought their way up the leagues. Would also be good not to go to places like Brighton and Bournemouth in damage limitation mode against their B team.

Yes it's overhyped and overcommercialised to death but if the height of our ambition is to hold our own in the Championship something's gone very wrong.

Magwitch · Aug 11, 2018

We cannot criticise those now in the Premiership earning big bucks, it’s just snvy imo not that long ago Burnley and Bournemouth were on skid row their very EFL existence on the line, Huddersfield in the 4th division too, Wolves not doing too well and Brighton and Fulham, we could be like them too if there was the will

Johnnythespider · Aug 11, 2018

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Would be good to not be resigned to losing talented players to clubs who are shit at developing their own talent because they've bought their way up the leagues. Would also be good not to go to places like Brighton and Bournemouth in damage limitation mode against their B team.

Yes it's overhyped and overcommercialised to death but if the height of our ambition is to hold our own in the Championship something's gone very wrong.

Agree with most of this, the only change i would make is that we may be happy to hold our own in league one. If it becomes apparent that is the case then i can't see the point, surely there has to be the ambition to compete at the highest level as a club and as fans.

eastwoodsdustman · Aug 11, 2018

We'd still lose our best players to richer clubs. The only difference is that we'd be watching people earning £50k a week instead of £2k a week and they'd probably not try quite so hard as they'd know that theres always someone willing to pay them big bucks.

shmmeee · Aug 11, 2018

eastwoodsdustman said:
We'd still lose our best players to richer clubs. The only difference is that we'd be watching people earning £50k a week instead of £2k a week and they'd probably not try quite so hard as they'd know that theres always someone willing to pay them big bucks.

There’s fewer richer clubs though.

If we were in the Prem the likes of Wilson and Maddison would probably still be developing with us.

fatso · Aug 11, 2018

The question should be, if the fans don’t have ambition and hunger for the premier league, then why should sisu?

eastwoodsdustman · Aug 11, 2018

shmmeee said:
There’s fewer richer clubs though.

If we were in the Prem the likes of Wilson and Maddison would probably still be developing with us.

Would they develop though? The problem with the National team is that young English players are not getting enough first team games. We’d be no different to any other by getting foreign imports in to play.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 11, 2018

Astute said:
I would be happy to become a yoyo side.

Warwickhunt · Aug 11, 2018

Magwitch said:
Then the big boys with their Premiership money will swoop for the next best probably out of the championship who in turn will nick the next best out of division one and so on. Also don’t you think this scenario has been scrutinised by all the clubs likely to be affected and that’s IF brexit happens

I think like most people they think it will not happen.

Astute · Aug 11, 2018

Warwickhunt said:
I think like most people they think it will not happen.

We are now 1 step away from having a chance of making it.

Yes some Championship sides spend millions trying to make it to the Prem. But on our side we have a very good academy. We will make it back. The question is how many years will it take.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 11, 2018

Astute said:
We are now 1 step away from having a chance of making it.

Yes some Championship sides spend millions trying to make it to the Prem. But on our side we have a very good academy. We will make it back. The question is how many years will it take.

Yes we have a good academy, but only IF that talent is allowed to flourish in the first team.

Grendel · Aug 11, 2018

Magwitch said:
We cannot criticise those now in the Premiership earning big bucks, it’s just snvy imo not that long ago Burnley and Bournemouth were on skid row their very EFL existence on the line, Huddersfield in the 4th division too, Wolves not doing too well and Brighton and Fulham, we could be like them too if there was the will

Bournemouth have spent millions to get to the premier league - £15 million alone to get out of league one.

£36,000 a week for one loan player to warm the bench for 6 weeks in the championship

The finances are a basket case if they were relegated as we’ve seen at other clubs who’ve crashed and burned.

Terry_dactyl · Aug 11, 2018

Grendel said:
Bournemouth have spent millions to get to the premier league - £15 million alone to get out of league one.

£36,000 a week for one loan player to warm the bench for 6 weeks in the championship

The finances are a basket case if they were relegated as we’ve seen at other clubs who’ve crashed and burned.

Who was that?

Grendel · Aug 11, 2018

Terry_dactyl said:
Who was that?

Senile moment I’ve forgotten his name. Loaned from stoke did great backward flip when scored.

Nick · Aug 11, 2018

Grendel said:
Senile moment I’ve forgotten his name. Loaned from stoke did great backward flip when scored.

Kenwyne Jones?

Nick · Aug 11, 2018

Grendel said:
Senile moment I’ve forgotten his name. Loaned from stoke did great backward flip when scored.

Kenwyne Jones?

Grendel · Aug 11, 2018

Nick said:
Kenwyne Jones?

That’s him

Grendel · Aug 11, 2018

Cardiff make colossal six figure sum from Kenwyne Jones’s AFC Bournemouth deal

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 11, 2018

Magwitch said:
We cannot criticise those now in the Premiership earning big bucks, it’s just snvy imo not that long ago Burnley and Bournemouth were on skid row their very EFL existence on the line, Huddersfield in the 4th division too, Wolves not doing too well and Brighton and Fulham, we could be like them too if there was the will

And in Wolves/Bournemouth/Fulham/Southampton/Stoke/half the PL's case an owner with a bottomless money pit

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 11, 2018

Grendel said:
Bournemouth have spent millions to get to the premier league - £15 million alone to get out of league one.

£36,000 a week for one loan player to warm the bench for 6 weeks in the championship

The finances are a basket case if they were relegated as we’ve seen at other clubs who’ve crashed and burned.

Not to worry they can now receive £100 million a season from finishing in the bottom half

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 11, 2018

Johnnythespider said:
Agree with most of this, the only change i would make is that we may be happy to hold our own in league one. If it becomes apparent that is the case then i can't see the point, surely there has to be the ambition to compete at the highest level as a club and as fans.

The club's stock has sunk to such an extent that some would be content with this.

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