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Match Thread Port Vale - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 26th Dec (3 Viewers)

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letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #386
sw88 said:
Was more a pass back, and the keeper made it look better than it was by parrying it, but Ok, we will count it
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Wasn't a back pass was a shot.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #387
Liquid Gold said:
Robins needs to be drilling a style of play into them in the training field. At the start of the season we’d break quickly with Jones and even when we didn’t play well there was a chance of some magic. Now he’s gone I couldn’t tell you what our style of play is. Sometimes we’re going long, sometimes it goes out wide, sometimes players run through the middle. You could say we’re ‘mixing it up’ but the players don’t appear to know what their team mates are doing with the ball so they’re not reacting correctly. It’s all so disjointed at times.
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Even though we beat Wycombe, every one of their players knew the plan and what they were doing. I think that's why we struggle more against the lower teams. Same with Morecambe, they had a game plan to play through their big striker time and time again and it paid off.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #388
Otis said:
Yup. Had my Sky Blue heart broken far too many times over the years.

Can we not please just have one little run of say 8 games unbeaten?

I put it on my Santa wishlist!! Looks like the beardy fat barsteward let me down yet again.
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Tell you what Otis, a bit off post, but have a look at our results for 66/67, our famous promotion season. We lost at Huddersfield on November 19, and that was the last time we lost that season. 25 games, 15 wins, 10 draws, and we only won the league on the last game of the season! How much would we love a run half as good as that??
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #389
sw88 said:
I’m sure Einstein the donkey would say yes
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Ahhh, I see you got an Otis joke book for Xmas!


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Skyblueweeman

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #390
Esoterica said:
3 of our first choice 4 midfielders injured plus our #10 in Andreu. Can't wait for Jan 1st.
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Massive impact on why we’re not in the autos. Too many over look this fact.


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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #391
Nick said:
Sadly, when he went off we looked more like conceding as the ball was coming back at us a lot more as we were still going long.
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Not because he was holding it up he traps it further than he can shoot (well I am guessing there I have never seen him shoot)
 

Otis

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #392
Cov kid 55 said:
Tell you what Otis, a bit off post, but have a look at our results for 66/67, our famous promotion season. We lost at Huddersfield on November 19, and that was the last time we lost that season. 25 games, 15 wins, 10 draws, and we only won the league on the last game of the season! How much would we love a run half as good as that??
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Really bloody annoys me. I only started going that first season in the top division, AFTER the Sky Blue revolution and I have seen so much perpetual struggle over the years.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #393
Robins' to blame for a lot of it today.

Willis is not a right back, has never had a good game there.

Throwing Ponticelli out wide was never going to work.

Should not have taken Biamou off. Wasn't having a great game, but he's the only physical threat we have.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #394
Skyblueweeman said:
Massive impact on why we’re not in the autos. Too many over look this fact.

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To be fair, 3 of those 4 have only got injured in the last month. I still maintain it's mostly the way we set up, although how deep our defence is sitting is becoming as much of an issue as the gap was in attacking midfield. It forces the long ball out of Doyle and the CBs towards a completely isolated Biamou.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #395
pusbccfc said:
Robins' to blame for a lot of it today.

Willis is not a right back, has never had a good game there.

Throwing Ponticelli out wide was never going to work.

Should not have taken Biamou off. Wasn't having a great game, but he's the only physical threat we have.
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Agree with all of that other than the Willis part - thought he was our best defender today (although didn't get forward much).
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #396
Robins

Was disappointing

Were well in the game

Difficult place to come

They have some difficult attackers

Disappointing as chance to go third

Didn’t get chance to have a shot on goal or on target

Almost costly mix up (Burge / Davies)

Really poor goal to give away

Not about formations

Created some good openings, first and second half, second we huffed and puffed more

Had some match winners in the side

When we give goal away always looking to try and force our way back into it

Beauty of it is we can make up for it Saturday

When you don’t play brilliantly still have to look for positives

One shot on target is poor

Losing Vincenti throws things

Thought game and got to move on

Unsure of Vincenti injury due to Christmas period

Swelling and pain
 
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Legia Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #397
We got caught into playing the game Port Vale wanted. The pitch didn't help matters & neither did the ref who let a lot of pushing & shoving go, particularly their central defenders on McNulty & Biamou who as a result just couldn't get in the game. Watching the game I thought it was Beavon who put in he 2 crap crosses at the end rather than Ponticelli but looks like I was wrong. Anyhow, while I have no problem as such with making the subs we did, given the match situation, it made no sense putting Ponticelli wide instead of Beavon, when Ponticelli's strength is his goal scoring & weakness his build up play, with the opposite applying to Beavon.
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #398
Nick said:
A lot of it seems to be Doyle, half the time he doesn't look up just loops it forward.
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Thought you were describing his wonder goal from the other day for a minute.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #399
Otis said:
Really bloody annoys me. I only started going that first season in the top division, AFTER the Sky Blue revolution and I have seen so much perpetual struggle over the years.
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Yeh, I always consider myself lucky, as well as God knows how many years of hurt, I had 3 or 4 years from 1963, when we used to roll teams over at home, won two promotions, and it was often a matter of not whether we would win but by how many. There’s been a few good times after those halcyon days, but a lot more pain!
 
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Esoterica

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #400
Otis said:
Really bloody annoys me. I only started going that first season in the top division, AFTER the Sky Blue revolution and I have seen so much perpetual struggle over the years.
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We do have an issue with momentum. Luton lost once in 18, unbeaten in 8. Notts County unbeaten in 10, Lincoln unbeaten in 5 winning 4 of them, Colchester 1 defeat in 11. Our best is 4 games unbeaten at the end of September.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #401
Doyle has been brilliant for us on the whole, but when we are chasing the game he's a problem.

As Nick said, he just tries to loop it forward to McNulty, but it never works.
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #402
sw88 said:
Robins
Created some good openings, first and second half, second we huffed and puffed more
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Would like to know what he considered a good opening today. We didn't create a chance all game so unless he is referring to moves that broke down due to poor crosses then he's just deflecting away from a bad day in the office.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #403
sw88 said:
Robins

Was disappointing

Were well in the game

Difficult place to come

They have some difficult attackers

Disappointing as chance to go third

Didn’t get chance to have a shot on goal or on target

Almost costly mix up (Burge / Davies)

Really poor goal to give away

Not about formations

Created some good openings, first and second half, second we huffed and puffed more

Had some match winners in the side

When we give goal away always looking to try and force our way back into it

Beauty of it is we can make up for it Saturday

When you don’t play brilliantly still have to look for positives

One shot on target is poor

Losing Vincenti throws things

Thought game and got to move on

Unsure of Vincenti injury due to Christmas period

Swelling and pain
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Burge just been on “we are aiming to be in the automatic playoffs”
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #404
Adge said:
Burge just been on “we are aiming to be in the automatic playoffs”
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Heard an interview from his the other day, incredibly dopey bless him.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #405
sw88 said:
Robins:



Difficult place to come

Beauty of it is we can make up for it Saturday
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Thing is, Carlisle is a difficult place to go to too and they have now won 3 in a row, 2 league games and then Gillingham in the FA Cup.

They must really fancy their chances against us on Saturday.

Hate to say it, but this is the most I have been down all season. Always been upbeat, despite some poor results here and there, but this time I really thought we had turned a corner and I was expecting at least a draw today. Thought we had at last started to build momentum.

Very glum in the Otis household this evening.
 
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sw88

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #406
Adge said:
Burge just been on “we are aiming to be in the automatic playoffs”
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He also commented how it was a shame they couldn’t send the fans away with a point. A point against opposition like that? I’m hoping he didn’t opt for 3 points just on the basis that there was only 1 goal in it? And not that they’d have been happy with a point today?
 

Adge

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #407
sw88 said:
He also commented how it was a shame they couldn’t send the fans away with a point. A point against opposition like that? I’m hoping he didn’t opt for 3 points just on the basis that there was only 1 goal in it? And not that they’d have been happy with a point today?
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Keep telling you mate-jokers like him in the team and we won’t progress.
 
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oucho

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #408
Skyblueweeman said:
Ahhh, I see you got an Otis joke book for Xmas!
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Where was that, the 99p store?

pusbccfc said:
Robins' to blame for a lot of it today.

Willis is not a right back, has never had a good game there.

Throwing Ponticelli out wide was never going to work.
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Why anyone thinks that Willis can be deployed at RB is beyond me. His performances there, particularly Orient away under SP, make my skin crawl with the anticipation of impending doom. As for our club's predilection for putting a striker on the wing, our club seems to have no equal.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #409
Otis said:
Really bloody annoys me. I only started going that first season in the top division, AFTER the Sky Blue revolution and I have seen so much perpetual struggle over the years.
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Me too, started first season div 1. Was young, starry eyed and had been impressed with the celebration of promotion in Broadgate. Had my scarf and rattle and was looking forward to success. First game for me that season was against Tottenham .. But it has been mainly a struggle with the occasional blip since then.

Nowadays I keep making the mistake of thinking that we have turned the corner.... we always seem to come down with a bump. Still think that we will be in the play offs though....;-)
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #410
oucho said:
Where was that, the 99p store?



Why anyone thinks that Willis can be deployed at RB is beyond me. His performances there, particularly Orient away under SP, make my skin crawl with the anticipation of impending doom. As for our club's predilection for putting a striker on the wing, our club seems to have no equal.
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There is of course some truth in that, but Andreu could play wide and we did deploy him there at least once, Jones was a wide player and Vincenti has been playing wide right too.

That's three players right there.

Past playing DKE today, Robins didn't have many options left.
 

oucho

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #411
Esoterica said:
The difference been autos and playoffs right there:
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Bloody hell, that really does tell a horror story.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #412
Otis said:
There is of course some truth in that, but Andreu could play wide and we did deploy him there at least once, Jones was a wide player and Vincenti has been playing wide right too.

That's three players right there.

Past playing DKE today, Robins didn't have many options left.
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He could have deployed a diamond type midfield.
 

hinckley cov

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #413
Robins should be given till the end of the season,and if we are not in the playoffs he has to go
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #414
Skyblueweeman said:
Massive impact on why we’re not in the autos. Too many over look this fact.


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Results haven’t really changed regardless of the injuries.
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #415
Esoterica said:
We do have an issue with momentum. Luton lost once in 18, unbeaten in 8. Notts County unbeaten in 10, Lincoln unbeaten in 5 winning 4 of them, Colchester 1 defeat in 11. Our best is 4 games unbeaten at the end of September.
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When you think about it, it's a miracle we are as high as we are. And with a striker who hasn't scored a single goal all season!
It looks like we have lost touch with Luton and Notts Co, so for automatic promotion we'll be battling it out with 7-9 other clubs.
 

sky_blue_up_north

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #416
One shot on target the whole game sums it up. Vale were just as bad but got the break. I am starting to fear another season of disappointment... but what’s new.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #417
Think about it, who out of that starting line up do you look at and think 'they could score a goal?'

For me it's McNulty and that's absolutely as far as it goes. That's not good at all.

We need to replace the 3 or 4 other attacking players around him.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #418
Grendel said:
He could have deployed a diamond type midfield.
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And if he had have changed to said formation and we had still have lost he would have been absolutely slated on here for changing to a completely different system
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #419
Cov kid 55 said:
Yeh, I always consider myself lucky, as well as God knows how many years of hurt, I had 3 or 4 years from 1963, when we used to roll teams over at home, won two promotions, and it was often a matter of not whether we would win but by how many. There’s been a few good times after those halcyon days, but a lot more pain!
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remember those days wish we could do it now
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #420
hinckley cov said:
Robins should be given till the end of the season,and if we are not in the playoffs he has to go
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Only trouble with that is, for me, this a shit or bust season, a one chance scenario.

It's a massive factor that this is Coventry City and we have been in perpetual decline for nearly 20 years. Nothing but doom and gloom for every season more or less.

We don't make the playoffs this season the drop in ST's and interest next season is going to be at an all time low.

I don't want to see him sacked, but if we start slipping, but are still in with a chance of a playoff place at least, then I think we would HAVE to replace him.

For me this is a one season deal. I know stats show that most clubs don't come straight back up, but have any of those clubs had season after season after season of demise and no top 6 finishes?

Nearly 20 years of decline, so for me it is shit or bust. We HAVE to have a successful season.
 
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