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  • Start date Apr 16, 2016
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rupert_bear

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  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #106
Should be interesting if we by some miracle sneak into the play-offs and play them home and away again or even at Wembley. Our tough guys seemed to struggle taking on a few hundred Millwall wonder how they'll get on with 40000 ?
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #107
rupert_bear said:
Should be interesting if we by some miracle sneak into the play-offs and play them home and away again or even at Wembley. Our tough guys seemed to struggle taking on a few hundred Millwall wonder how they'll get on with 40000 ?
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Eh? What are you talking about?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #108
Must be hundreds of Londoners nursing wounds today ??
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #109
skybluelee said:
Surely this is a parody site? Nobody in the real world talks like this.
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Well, if true, can only imagine the gang of Wall includes people called Nobsy, Nosher, One Eye Eric, Spud Boy, Razor, Baby Face, Cut Throat McKenzie and Basher.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #110
dongonzalos said:
It happens all the the time. A police force with its hands strapped more and more by political agenda cuts. Officers who are frustrated by not been able to help the victims they joined the police to help. Go to the pubs and beat up innocent harmless people
It's so common it won't make the news.
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Ludicrous rationale don. You believe the old bill are going in heavy handed because of cuts?

For one thing, coppers aren't at risk. Its the civvies who are being sacked or replaced by G4$, and most of the old bill don't give a f%$^ about their civvie or PCSO "colleagues". The only "cuts" affecting officers WAS they couldn't stop on after their 30 years, and by that time the only ones that were stopping on anyway were the ones in back office jobs. Hardly an old mans game being part of the OSU and driving around in riot vans.

And you reckon they are so traumatised they can't help victims...they decide to go about beating up innocent people, making THEM victims?

OK.
[h=2][/h]
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #111
Any phone footage of the Wheatsheaf attack yet, if people don't share it they are complicit
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #112
Very true Reg one of the best things to happen was the 30 rule retirement rule for police, I work with a number of ex coppers now in their mid fifties or a bit older who spent their last 10 years in the Job behind desks but coming out at weekends for a bit of footie overtime.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #113
Sorry Reg I was been extremely sarcastic
The police want to help people and due to cut backs aren't getting the chance.
They certainly don't have the time or inclination to do this.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #114
Sorry don, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic, so apologies if I was a bit OTT.

I appreciate it takes a "no-nonsense" attitude to be on an OUS van and that an over exuberance, perhaps even red mist, would sometimes surface. While some officers are drafted in from local boroughs to make up the numbers, I have no doubt a gang culture exists between the regular serials themselves. I just believe that attitude and peer pressure, perhaps not too dissimilar to the "firms" they try to address on match days, is what drives some of them to be heavy handed - rather than any economic factor or a great desire to serve the public trust.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #115
Evo1883 said:
As Jamie vardy would say ....
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“Jap. Yo Jap. Walk on. Walk on . . . oi, walk on. Yeah you . . . Jap. Walk on.”
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #116
Surprised this hasn't made the national news today - it's a sensational story.
 

Sterling Archer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #117
theferret said:
Judging by the comments on the Millwall forum, I think you've got that the wrong way around.
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Nope, as clear as day it was as I said it was.
 
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peekingtom

New Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #118
The old bill were probably out looking for revenge, for one of there own .........
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #119
Macca said:
Any phone footage of the Wheatsheaf attack yet, if people don't share it they are complicit
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Hahaha...I wonder if they'll include the bit where they outnumbered and attacked the opposition fans?
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #120
I have read police saying they will be looking at cctv footage to identify and prosecute trouble makers where possible, I support that 100%, funny though when they have footage shown on National TV of PC Ricky Alsopp, quiet clearly attacking an individual, identified and dealt with internally, of what could be deemed pre-meditated violence by asking the desk sergeant if the cell cctv cameras where on or off, the West Midlands police haven't charged PC Alsopp with assault based spuriously on what they say is time lapse.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #121
Astute said:
A couple of weeks ago it was about being no police attacks on the public. Then the news breaks that one of our own supporters gets damages for being attacked by an officer. This only occurred because another officer reported it. And the officer kept his job.

As I said before it is too much of a big comment to make to say that it doesn't happen. And you making out that some are saying that it happens everywhere all the time is either missing the point or saying whatever you want to try and make those that have witnessed such attacks look wrong. Or are you just trying to save face after saying attacks don't happen before one hits the news?
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But think back to the Derby game. Straight away there was video footage and people saying it was over the top and out of order.

The comment made was that 'it happens all the time'. I just don't believe that groups of police are going into pubs where there is no sign of trouble and physically attacking people having a quiet drink without it being reported anywhere and no video footage surfacing. There's CCTV and everyone has a mobile phone that can film these days.

Take the alleged incident yesterday, we're told everything was fine in the Wheatsheaf and the police charged in and started attacking our fans with batons for no reason. Presumably then those in the pub, and indeed the landlord, will be reporting this to the press and taking legal action. After all there will be CCTV and anyone who was in the pub and being filmed is entitled to a copy under data protection rules so it will be an open and shut case.

That's not saying there aren't dodgy policemen or things that shouldn't never happen.
 
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Hadji10

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #122
Hahahahaha. Some of the comments in here. So what if the old bill ar arsey with fans, have you seen some of the unnecessary shit fans chant at the police?

Grow up. Who fucking cares?
 
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Wall i Am

New Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #123
I had a good day in Coventry except for result. British Transport Police and local plod were all good, directed me to city centre pubs before the game were very straightforward blokes. Police came into the pub to have a look around, standard stuff.

After the game walked through the car park of Tesco and got a cab back to the station, something had just happened in Foleshill as plenty of wagons came down the road, a Coventry bloke got jumped on by the hi-vis boys, he had a glass in his hand and was shouting a lot in the middle of the road. Some ‘Wall had bloodied faces and were walking on. Taxi kept going and took us to the station.

Again the police at the station and on the train were fine.

Decent noise from us lot in the ground, apart from the result enjoyed it. I would say good stewarding to move Dad and son into the away end, why not?
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #124
Wall i Am said:
I had a good day in Coventry except for result. British Transport Police and local plod were all good, directed me to city centre pubs before the game were very straightforward blokes. Police came into the pub to have a look around, standard stuff.

After the game walked through the car park of Tesco and got a cab back to the station, something had just happened in Foleshill as plenty of wagons came down the road, a Coventry bloke got jumped on by the hi-vis boys, he had a glass in his hand and was shouting a lot in the middle of the road. Some ‘Wall had bloodied faces and were walking on. Taxi kept going and took us to the station.

Again the police at the station and on the train were fine.

Decent noise from us lot in the ground, apart from the result enjoyed it. I would say good stewarding to move Dad and son into the away end, why not?
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I too thought it was common sense moving the fans who'd made their way into the home end but supporting the away team
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #125
sw88 said:
I too thought it was common sense moving the fans who'd made their way into the home end but supporting the away team
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Or should they be ejected?

If you're going to sit in the opposite end, the least you can do is just watch the game, not cause problems.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #126
sw88 said:
I too thought it was common sense moving the fans who'd made their way into the home end but supporting the away team
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No, not at all. The very least we should have done was to tar and feather them and stick them in dunces caps.
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #127
slowpoke said:
That's because you ain't black
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Really?
 
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CV22SBA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #128
ccfc92 said:
Or should they be ejected?

If you're going to sit in the opposite end, the least you can do is just watch the game, not cause problems.
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No problem if they sat quiet but the little 12 year old prick was jumping around giving it the big i am and even tried starting on a few older blokes. They should have been kicked out and the dad should have been told to control his son. FFS the little prick was about 12, be in prison by the time he becomes a man.
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #129
Hadji10 said:
Hahahahaha. Some of the comments in here. So what if the old bill ar arsey with fans, have you seen some of the unnecessary shit fans chant at the police?

Grow up. Who fucking cares?
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You're not going to flounce off in a strop, saying you are 'never posting on here again' are you?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #130
CV22SBA said:
No problem if they sat quiet but the little 12 year old prick was jumping around giving it the big i am and even tried starting on a few older blokes. They should have been kicked out and the dad should have been told to control his son. FFS the little prick was about 12, be in prison by the time he becomes a man.
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I have sat in the home section a few times when we have been away no to be hard or clever just sat with friends or had freebies, I find it quite interesting to see how the opposition fans see the game and who they rate in our side. I never jump up when we score or take the piss (don't normally get the chance as we are usually being beaten) if you are going to go in the other side end act like an adult and it's normally fine lots of time fans around me must have worked it out but never any bother but wouldn't do it at Millwall
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #131
CV22SBA said:
No problem if they sat quiet but the little 12 year old prick was jumping around giving it the big i am and even tried starting on a few older blokes. They should have been kicked out and the dad should have been told to control his son. FFS the little prick was about 12, be in prison by the time he becomes a man.
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Exactly my point. They should have been kicked out. They were told not to travel and broke the rule, home fans only in the home end that it states on the ticket. Cov fans have been kicked out the Ricoh for less.
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #132
Wall i Am said:
I had a good day in Coventry except for result. British Transport Police and local plod were all good, directed me to city centre pubs before the game were very straightforward blokes. Police came into the pub to have a look around, standard stuff.

After the game walked through the car park of Tesco and got a cab back to the station, something had just happened in Foleshill as plenty of wagons came down the road, a Coventry bloke got jumped on by the hi-vis boys, he had a glass in his hand and was shouting a lot in the middle of the road. Some ‘Wall had bloodied faces and were walking on. Taxi kept going and took us to the station.

Again the police at the station and on the train were fine.

Decent noise from us lot in the ground, apart from the result enjoyed it. I would say good stewarding to move Dad and son into the away end, why not?
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Glad you had a good day.
All them milwall fans I spoke to were great. My lad likes to get the autographs of the players so we were there (as usual) when the team coach arrived. Most your players were great young guys freely chatting and giving autos and photos with cov and wall fans alike. Including the guy who got sent off
Had a bit of banter with some fans...knowledgable and fun as most fans of all clubs are.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #133
Thought the Millwall fans were poor, couldn't hear much from them in block 15.

The Millwall fans on the Foleshill Road tried it on and got slapped. Shame
 

steveo1987

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #134
David O'Day said:
Thought the Millwall fans were poor, couldn't hear much from them in block 15.

The Millwall fans on the Foleshill Road tried it on and got slapped. Shame
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Fans?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2016
  • #135
steveo1987 said:
Fans?
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Well they do support Millwall and I can't be bothered with a "they're not real fans" conversation.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2016
  • #136
David O'Day said:
Thought the Millwall fans were poor, couldn't heakr much from them in block 15.

The Millwall fans on the Foleshill Road tried it on and got slapped. Shame
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Does this mean us and not Wall are now top boys in the beating up outnumbered people league. I mean in the eyes of plod/OB and everyone ITK.
We must at least be considered game as fuck
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Apr 18, 2016
  • #137
David O'Day said:
Thought the Millwall fans were poor, couldn't hear much from them in block 15.
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You wot? You wot, you wot, you wot? At times they were the loudest fans we've had all season (including our own...)
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2016
  • #138
Macca said:
Does this mean us and not Wall are now top boys in the beating up outnumbered people league. I mean in the eyes of plod/OB and everyone ITK.
We must at least be considered game as fuck
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It was cunts fighting cunts, nothing much to see
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2016
  • #139
dubed said:
You wot? You wot, you wot, you wot? At times they were the loudest fans we've had all season (including our own...)
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No mate they weren't
 
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The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2016
  • #140
marcusp said:
Lurker i find it hard to believe the ob just decided to enter the wheatsheef and pick on city fans. We all know the type who dring in the ws and they are hardly the inocent type out for half a shandy.
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Anyone present in the pub could make a claim. No bullshit. Police came in with batons. Yes outside a couple of glasses were thrown at the police outside but that was minor compared to what happened inside.
 
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