Players who maybe should have stayed (1 Viewer)

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torchomatic

torchomatic

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Jay TAbb is a good one. No McSheff didn't ask to leave. I think it's b een covered on here in the past but in interviews at the time he states that he hasn't asked to go. Micky Adams didn't want him to go. The board did.

Manchester_sky_blue said:
Mifsud is the obvious one, McSheffrey possibly but he did have a reasonable spell for Birmingham to begin with, I still don't believe he wanted to go anyway, club wanted the cash for him and that was that. Tabb, Never set the world alight post Cov.

Too early to say on Bigi, he's got time on his side and I hope it does work out for him.

Arguably Marlon King, we were't the high point of his career admittedly but he's struggled since he left.
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Hobo

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Bobby Parker, Callum Davenport, Jay Tabb and Gael Bigirimana should have all stayed longer.
 
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Spagbol

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What was that song it use to finish with, "..... A partridge on the left wing". Never forget that right back we had Danny Thomas with a crunching tackle against man utd winning the ball off the then England captain Bryan robson, he went to spurs and broke his leg, never really played again always thought he would be an England regulars. that was one player we should have held onto!
 
Grendel

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Davenport and Misfud clearly are stand out ones. Ferguson as well.

Side issue but I always thought konjic was useless.
 
lewys33

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Grendel said:
Davenport and Misfud clearly are stand out ones. Ferguson as well.

Side issue but I always thought konjic was useless.
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Am I the only one who thought misfud was fast and that was it? The number of shots he had on target were awful! Wilson will become a much better player in my opinion. He would have eventually burnt out at Cov as well.
 
harvey098

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Davenport is the biggest one for me. He looked like he could go on and be an England centre half. In 2010 he signed for amateur side "Wooten Blue Cross" at the age of 28 and is still there now.

Chris Kirkland as well for me. know he's played a league above us for the majority of his career but promised so much more.
 
covmark

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lewys33 said:
Am I the only one who thought misfud was fast and that was it? The number of shots he had on target were awful! Wilson will become a much better player in my opinion. He would have eventually burnt out at Cov as well.
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Get where you're coming from, but his 2 goals against man united will forever be etched in my memory. Should have had a hat-trick as well, with that little flick that hit the post.
Ahh good times.
 
Hobo

Hobo

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lewys33 said:
Am I the only one who thought misfud was fast and that was it? The number of shots he had on target were awful! Wilson will become a much better player in my opinion. He would have eventually burnt out at Cov as well.
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Agree no awareness of what was around him, often took the wrong option.
 
Grendel

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Hobo said:
Agree no awareness of what was around him, often took the wrong option.
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The decision to get rid of Adebole and shunt Misfud onto the wing finished him - I'm with the guy who blamed Coleman - he was never the same once that clown took charge.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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The 8-0 win at HR. He was fantastic that night.

rondog1973 said:
What cup game? I do remember his goal against a highly fancied Reading side, where he ran the length of the pitch before curling it into the top corner from the edge of the box.
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fernandopartridge

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Darren Huckerby - I know he looks back fondly at his time with Norwich, but he mostly played in the Championship with them. He never ever hit the heights he did here again.

Noel Whelan - career completely fizzled out once he went, there was still a player in there too.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Can't remember. Two things stand out for me that night; how great Partridge was. And my mate who was in Cyprus asked me to text him if we scored...I was texting him for most of the evening!

Monners said:
Rushden & Diamonds I think it may have been. Didn't Sheffers get a hatrick?
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Sterling Archer

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The same Danny Fox, Jay Tabb and Gary McSheffrey that went on to win promotions with their respective clubs and also appear in the Premier League? Yep, I bet they're gutted they left us to miss out on our fun adventure to League One and Northampton. Sleepless nights for the pair of them.

Some of you need to remove your Sky Blue tinted specs I'm afraid.
 
covcity4life

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Sterling Archer said:
The same Danny Fox, Jay Tabb and Gary McSheffrey that went on to win promotions with their respective clubs and also appear in the Premier League? Yep, I bet they're gutted they left us to miss out on our fun adventure to League One and Northampton. Sleepless nights for the pair of them.

Some of you need to remove your Sky Blue tinted specs I'm afraid.
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tell me about it!

only ones i can think should have stayed are

westwood(went to prem but hardly played in last 3 years, careers are short, playing first team football must mean more than extra casha t that age surely?)

king(we might have been a different prospect had he stayed and brum were not the team they were years previous)

jutkiewitz(first name on team sheet for us, not had bad boro career though)

mifsud(what a silly man)
 
lewys33

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Sterling Archer said:
The same Danny Fox, Jay Tabb and Gary McSheffrey that went on to win promotions with their respective clubs and also appear in the Premier League? Yep, I bet they're gutted they left us to miss out on our fun adventure to League One and Northampton. Sleepless nights for the pair of them.

Some of you need to remove your Sky Blue tinted specs I'm afraid.
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Yes I am sure they all enjoyed their time warming the bench.
 
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Monners

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Garry Thompson, Andy Blair, Paul Dyson, the very unfortunate and talented Danny Thomas and most of all Gary GIllespie - very talented player who had to sit around and wait for Hansen to get injured at Liverpool.
 
Sterling Archer

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lewys33 said:
Yes I am sure they all enjoyed their time warming the bench.
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Lets have a look at each players career since leaving City

Jay Tabb
- Left in January 2009 for Reading. In 4 years made 105 appearances including the opportunity testing himself in his career by playing 12 games in the Premier League. During his time at Reading he won a football league championship winners medal. After finding himself struggling for first team football he joined Ipswich on loan last season before completing a permanent deal. A mixture of starts and sub appearances for Ipswich so far this season in a team chasing a play off place.

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Playing for Coventry City in that time on (no doubt) smaller wages and experiencing a relegation to League One, two seasons with -10pts and a move to Northampton at a club with severe off the field issues.


Danny Fox
- Left in July 2009 for Celtic. An unsuccesful half a season with Celtic saw him try his hand at Champions League football before joining Burnley in the second half of the season to play Premier League football. Relegation followed and then a full season starting for Burnley. He then moved to Southampton and was a starting full back for them in their promotion to the Premier League with a runners up medal. Last season he made 20 appearances for Southampton in the Premier League but now finds himself behind Luke Shaw in the pecking order, no doubt picking up a handsome wage.

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Playing for Coventry City in that time on (no doubt) smaller wages and experiencing a relegation to League One, two seasons with -10pts and a move to Northampton at a club with severe off the field issues.


Gary McSheffrey

Left Coventry in the summer of 2007 and returned in 2010. During this time, McSheffrey won promotion to the Premier League on two occasions with two Championship runners up medals, one season of which he was an integral member of the side. In Birminghams first season back in the Prem, McSheffrey played in 32 of the 38 Premier League games, testing himself at the highest level. When injuries and first team opportunities hampered his last 18 months at Birmingham, he had a couple of loan spells at Forest and Leeds, winning another Runners Up medal, this time for Leeds from League One, before signing back for Coventry on a permanent deal.

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In the same time, McSheffrey could've been on a lower wage bumbling around 17th to 19th every season for a club whose fans either treat him as a god or a war criminal.




You're right, they definitely all should've stayed at Coventry City.
 
lewys33

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Sterling Archer said:
Lets have a look at each players career since leaving City

Jay Tabb
- Left in January 2009 for Reading. In 4 years made 105 appearances including the opportunity testing himself in his career by playing 12 games in the Premier League. During his time at Reading he won a football league championship winners medal. After finding himself struggling for first team football he joined Ipswich on loan last season before completing a permanent deal. A mixture of starts and sub appearances for Ipswich so far this season in a team chasing a play off place.

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Playing for Coventry City in that time on (no doubt) smaller wages and experiencing a relegation to League One, two seasons with -10pts and a move to Northampton at a club with severe off the field issues.


Danny Fox
- Left in July 2009 for Celtic. An unsuccesful half a season with Celtic saw him try his hand at Champions League football before joining Burnley in the second half of the season to play Premier League football. Relegation followed and then a full season starting for Burnley. He then moved to Southampton and was a starting full back for them in their promotion to the Premier League with a runners up medal. Last season he made 20 appearances for Southampton in the Premier League but now finds himself behind Luke Shaw in the pecking order, no doubt picking up a handsome wage.

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Playing for Coventry City in that time on (no doubt) smaller wages and experiencing a relegation to League One, two seasons with -10pts and a move to Northampton at a club with severe off the field issues.


Gary McSheffrey

Left Coventry in the summer of 2007 and returned in 2010. During this time, McSheffrey won promotion to the Premier League on two occasions with two Championship runners up medals, one season of which he was an integral member of the side. In Birminghams first season back in the Prem, McSheffrey played in 32 of the 38 Premier League games, testing himself at the highest level. When injuries and first team opportunities hampered his last 18 months at Birmingham, he had a couple of loan spells at Forest and Leeds, winning another Runners Up medal, this time for Leeds from League One, before signing back for Coventry on a permanent deal.

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In the same time, McSheffrey could've been on a lower wage bumbling around 17th to 19th every season for a club whose fans either treat him as a god or a war criminal.




You're right, they definitely all should've stayed at Coventry City.
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Well done you for looking everything up. Tell me more about how we were relegated to league 1 in 2009!!

Just to clarify I never said any of the above players should not have left. They may have all had "a good year" but none have set the world on fire realistically. At the end of the day they are footballers. I would rather play every game and be loved by the fans, than play a handful and be "1 of those players" that gets forgotten after a short breath. Personal choice.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie

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Showing my age here I know but how about Bobby Gould, never really set the world on fire at either Arsenal or West Ham after leaving City?
 
runner

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Without doubt, Dion Dublin ... Robbie Keane, to biggest impact losses, to a lesser extent McCallister.
 
The Philosopher

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Reading the thread title another way (i.e. players who should maybe should have stayed (or not been let go)) my left-field candidate is:

Onandi Lowe.

Caught with a car full of drugs and then had his contract terminated.

Unbelievable fact is that he was later found NOT GUILTY. (it could be argued that he may have had a case against the club for wrongful dismissal but that's a different story).

A perverse fact is that Lee Hughes was kept on by WBA when he was going through the legal process at around that time and only had his contract terminated when he was found GUILTY. Marlon King divides opinion, there may be similar parallels with other players.

At the time, we had picked him up from League One Rushden and he had been banging in goals for fun and generally terrorising the defences in the division. (49 goals in 90 app acording to wiki and 27 in 65 for Jamaica, including playing in the recent World Cup. More interesting is that he was often used as a central defender). 2 games for us, 1 goal.

Had he been kept on whilst only a suspect he may well have played like a man on fire. He didn't know that he was going to get away with it, he may have thought "this is my last big payday before going away, I need to earn some money, I need to get some win / goal bonus" or "I need to get the best legal team I can - need money"?

I'm not sure whether Archie Knox was still with the club. If I remember correctly he had a reputation of being Sir Alex's man for guiding wayward young footballers. I may be wrong though. In anycase, Onandi Lowe was needing strong management.

Anyway, in my opinion, he could / should have stayed (either by attempting to reconcile with the club (I think he went AWOL once), or by the management trying to mentor / nurture him). His stat's don't lie.

If he had been kept on, I cannot imagine many opposition Championship defenders being over the moon seeing his name on the Coventry team sheet. "(oh great, I'm marking a huge drug dealing Yardie goal machine with a point to prove and nothing to lose)"

I think Ched Evans was in a situation where he was on bail yet played out of his skin until found guily and locked up.

Placing moral views aside, a 29 year old Onandi Lowe kept on in Eric Black's exciting side (great wingers and creative players which would have suited his style of play) and with Big Archie as his mentor......
 
fernandopartridge

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lewys33 said:
Well done you for looking everything up. Tell me more about how we were relegated to league 1 in 2009!!

Just to clarify I never said any of the above players should not have left. They may have all had "a good year" but none have set the world on fire realistically. At the end of the day they are footballers. I would rather play every game and be loved by the fans, than play a handful and be "1 of those players" that gets forgotten after a short breath. Personal choice.
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Yes, I am sure it really bothers them.
 
Sterling Archer

Sterling Archer

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lewys33 said:
Well done you for looking everything up. Tell me more about how we were relegated to league 1 in 2009!!

Just to clarify I never said any of the above players should not have left. They may have all had "a good year" but none have set the world on fire realistically. At the end of the day they are footballers. I would rather play every game and be loved by the fans, than play a handful and be "1 of those players" that gets forgotten after a short breath. Personal choice.
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Your sarcastic tone of a response implied they shouldn't have left because they simply "enjoyed just sitting on a bench".

Oh and how dare I counter your sarcasm "fact-fuelled" and well thought reponse with some actual facts about what each player got up to. This is an internet football discussion forum where people discuss football. Ground breaking, I know.

Feel free to point out where I said we got relegated in 2009. All of them went to play at a higher level with varying success including promotions and appearances in the Premier League on a higher wage. All of which they wouldn't have achieved had they "stayed at Coventry City like they should have" (what this thread is actually all about).

Ask 99.999999% of professional footballers what they would rather do and you will soon realise your "I would rather play every game and be loved by the fans, than play a handful and be "1 of those players" that gets forgotten after a short breath. Personal choice." is an absolute fallacy in modern day football. Even then, I'd argue playing in promotion winning sides is better than playing for us in the late 00's, its an argument I'm very confident of winning that one actually.

Its a short career to these guys so they try and make as much money as possible, which is human general nature.

The issue here is they all evidently had better careers than if they'd had stayed with us unless:
a) You think everyone that plays for us is a fan and loves the club as much as you and I
b) They don't see their job as a, you know, job
c) They were deluded

Like I said, Sky blue tinted specs.
 
skybluepm2

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David Thompson..one of my all time favourite players! Didn't really achieve anything here but the fans loved him. Definitely should've gone on to better things but injuries eventually got the better of him, damn shame! Scored some belters our Thommo!
 
Sterling Archer

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I loved Thommo as well but it wasn't moving for Blackburn that halted his career, it was the fact he was made out of biscuits.

Thought of very highly and fondly from Blackburn as well, got into the England squad (without getting a cap) if i remember rightly.

Cracking little player.
 
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