No ill carry on backing him and say your doing a good job,just like the sisu arselickers on here:facepalm:
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No ill carry on backing him and say your doing a good job,just like the sisu arselickers on here:facepalm:
I presume because sisu have shown they do not enter into talks in good faith and renege on agreed deals that's why!
Sisu have sold every single player of any value since they've been here:facepalm:
covmark
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All your posts lose all credibility (if they ever had any) after this bullshit offering
KersleyDigs
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Colonel Mustard
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Just not true.
torchomatic
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you predicted the SISU outcome well.. what is your thoughts on PH4, as this is a valid point. Everyone is calling for him to take over the club, but what do we actually know about him?.. he's into property development projects..
so is that more likely to put him the dave whelan type of owner bracket -putting his money into the club to get them into the top tier of football , out of passion for the game & the club.... or the SISU bracket of owners - treating the club as secondary while they look to make money from the potentials associated to owning the club?
hmm .. im not saying hes a bad idea as an owner.. im just asking the question, rather than lauding him as the almighty savior, without really knowing anything about him or his intentions ???
torchomatic
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NorthernWisdom
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As an American might reply, QFT.
dongonzalos
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You are right some went for free
Utter bollox.
NorthernWisdom
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AnythinghastobebetterthanRobinson.com
Brighton Sky Blue
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To be fair if he buys out ACL and transfers it all to the club then he kind of would be.
chiefdave
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Being a Coventry fan has taught me to never say it can't get any worse! Of course any chance to get shot of SISU is something to be welcomed but we'd be wise to not blindly jump in with someone we know little about. A few initial questions I think we need answers to:
The administator chap (not Appy the other guy) said PH4 didn't have the funds himself to buy the club and the article today says he's part of a consortium so who else is in it?
He's a property developer, is he buying the 50% of ACL or is CCFC, once he has control, buying the 50%?
As we know having 50% doesn't really gain a lot other than a seat at the ACL table, is there a plan to purchase the councils 50%?
Will we pay rent at the lease rate or has a new agreement either been reached already or would need to be in place to complete takeover?
Some outline of a business plan, how do than plan to run the club profitably (assuming they aren't planning to lose money), what level do they think we can reach while being sustainable?
Sure there's more but I think if the answers to those questions didn't set off any alarms 99.9% of fans would welcome him with open arms.
The administator chap (not Appy the other guy) said PH4 didn't have the funds himself to buy the club and the article today says he's part of a consortium so who else is in it?
He's a property developer, is he buying the 50% of ACL or is CCFC, once he has control, buying the 50%?
As we know having 50% doesn't really gain a lot other than a seat at the ACL table, is there a plan to purchase the councils 50%?
Will we pay rent at the lease rate or has a new agreement either been reached already or would need to be in place to complete takeover?
Some outline of a business plan, how do than plan to run the club profitably (assuming they aren't planning to lose money), what level do they think we can reach while being sustainable?
Sure there's more but I think if the answers to those questions didn't set off any alarms 99.9% of fans would welcome him with open arms.
Brighton Sky Blue
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All worthwhile questions and ones which I suspect will have been posed by ACL, the administrator, and other members of the consortium. I would like to think he has a concrete business plan which will convince people he can do better than his (hopeful) predecessors.
NorthernWisdom
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As ACL and other members of the consortium would have supposedly posed similar questions to SISU, do you trust their judgement?
bigfatronssba
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Why would Acl have got involved with the sisu takeover? It had nothing to do with them.
Why would Acl have got involved with the sisu takeover? It had nothing to do with them.
Brighton Sky Blue
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This is quite different-SISU were not also trying to take on half of ACL and were also not buying a club currently in administration. I will trust the administrator to scrutinise the bid properly and also trust the charity, legally bound by the Charity Commission, to do the same with Haskell's intentions.
NorthernWisdom
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So if the administrator decides a bid from SISU is a better option, you will accept that?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I'm not sure how SISU could bid when the vast majority of the debt is owed to themselves, but if he had strong justification that Haskell's bid was severely flawed then yes I would. I don't want preservation of the status quo and if Haskell's takeover did that then of course I wouldn't be in favour.
singers_pore
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Simple... a debt to equity swap. Means SISU can repurchase Ltd without spending a penny.
James Smith
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Personally I wouldn't like it but I'd have to accept it if everything was above board.
Colonel Mustard
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Your memory must be sub-par. The likes of Cranie, Westwood and Gunnarsson walked for free; they should have been sold.
If the administrator decides the sisu bid is best it's because its whats best for arvo not whats best for CCFC. if he decides that a bid from sisu is best the club is dead, at best we are heading to league 2. I see no way to survive as even an average league 1 club if the sisus plan really is to move us away.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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We are on BBC 1 news in a few minutes
WillieStanley
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Cries of "I can't believe they're selling all of our biggest playing assets!! Surely they're worth more here where they can help us win the league?? They didn't even bother offering a new contract!! SISU OUT!! :blue::blue::blue:"
rustyredline
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Why do you spend most of your time on here arguing with people who really don't want sisu here. You just do it for shock value I imagine. I don't think the club could last another season with sisu so I am all for a fresh owner who has done a deal to secure 50% of ACL. I think we should be hopeful about this story not feeling sorry for a company that has had certain chances but blew them in the hope they could rip off tax payers and a charity.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Please get a grip you're going to upset some people on here and you know what they're like do hope you know what you're doing?
dongonzalos
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He did say Higgs not ACL just to clear that up.
NorthernWisdom
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Another one who really is incapable of reading and leaps to all kinds of conclusions.
Perhaps I naively think some city fans would have learned not to go for the zombie pack mentality and demand new owners they know feck all about (or they know they've failed in the past and still support them for some bizarre reason!), so they can then spend however long afterwards bleating on like miserable sozzled old drug addicts about how they've been screwed over.
I could equally ask why you want to get rid of people whose views differ from yours. Pathetic that's what it is, people like you who kill the club, and then you wonder why feck all fans go when some are so nobbish towards their fellow supporters. Seriously, some of you need to get a grip and stop thinking everyone's out to get you. This ain't your fecking board anymore than it is mine, so stop trying to shut others up and either talk to them, or shut the feck up.
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rustyredline
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I was asking why you always argue sisu's corner if you want them gone? We're not just talking being dubious of new owners I was talking about their business tactics and ethics. If you really want sisu gone you don't come across like that and seem to question everything that is detrimental to sisu and then bleet that's because you're a proper fan. No need to resort to namecalling(zombie, nobbish?) something you're quick to label others with I've noticed
