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  • Start date May 16, 2013
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valiant15

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #176
lordsummerisle said:
I'm saying I predicted that they would be no good for us, never wanted them in the first place, and don't want them now.

Didn't need to be fucking Nostradamus to predict the behaviour of a hedge-fund with previous against them being led by a bloke who had been turned down by more punters than an 88 year old aids ridden whore.

We know nothing about PH4 either really, could be good, but very little real information on him out there, but will be lauded for a bit I expect.

Give you three years though Valiant if things not going well before you're calling him "a property developing c**t, HIV, Aids boy".
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No ill carry on backing him and say your doing a good job,just like the sisu arselickers on here:facepalm:
 
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psgm1

Banned
  • May 16, 2013
  • #177
Deleted member 5849 said:
How come ACL will talk with Haskell but will only talk with the administrator and not SISU?
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I presume because sisu have shown they do not enter into talks in good faith and renege on agreed deals that's why!
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #178
'Arselickers' I'm one away from a line here!
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #179
Colonel Mustard said:
Football club sells two players it purchased. With breaking news like that, I'm surprised the entire fanbase didn't see the light.
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Sisu have sold every single player of any value since they've been here:facepalm:
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #180
valiant15 said:
I turned against them after they sold fox and dann, it was obvious what their plan was after that. Why have i got a selective memory? How would you know about me shouting people down if you only joined this forum recently?
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All your posts lose all credibility (if they ever had any) after this bullshit offering
 
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KersleyDigs

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #181
lordsummerisle said:
Don't know, he's probably a c-unit.
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Send him an email: paul@drpartners.com
 

Colonel Mustard

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #182
valiant15 said:
Sisu have sold every single player of any value since they've been here:facepalm:
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Just not true.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #183
And yet PH4 is the King of Kings.

valiant15 said:
I wasnt aware people can predict the future..
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luwalla

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #184
lordsummerisle said:
We know nothing about PH4 either really, could be good, but very little real information on him out there, but will be lauded for a bit I expect
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you predicted the SISU outcome well.. what is your thoughts on PH4, as this is a valid point. Everyone is calling for him to take over the club, but what do we actually know about him?.. he's into property development projects..

so is that more likely to put him the dave whelan type of owner bracket -putting his money into the club to get them into the top tier of football , out of passion for the game & the club.... or the SISU bracket of owners - treating the club as secondary while they look to make money from the potentials associated to owning the club?

hmm .. im not saying hes a bad idea as an owner.. im just asking the question, rather than lauding him as the almighty savior, without really knowing anything about him or his intentions ???
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #185
Ah, playing SISU Abuse Bingo again?

ajsccfc said:
'Arselickers' I'm one away from a line here!
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #186
luwalla said:
you predicted the SISU outcome well.. what is your thoughts on PH4, as this is a valid point. Everyone is calling for him to take over the club, but what do we actually know about him?.. he's into property development projects..

so is that more likely to put him the dave whelan type of owner bracket -putting his money into the club to get them into the top tier of football , out of passion for the game & the club.... or the SISU bracket of owners - treating the club as secondary while they look to make money from the potentials associated to owning the club?

hmm .. im not saying hes a bad idea as an owner.. im just asking the question, rather than lauding him as the almighty savior, without really knowing anything about him or his intentions ???
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As an American might reply, QFT.
 
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Ashdown1

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #187
Anythinghastobebetterthansisu.com
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #188
Colonel Mustard said:
Just not true.
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You are right some went for free
 
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valiant15

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #189
Colonel Mustard said:
Just not true.
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Utter bollox.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #190
Ashdown1 said:
Anythinghastobebetterthansisu.com
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AnythinghastobebetterthanRobinson.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #191
torchomatic said:
And yet PH4 is the King of Kings.
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To be fair if he buys out ACL and transfers it all to the club then he kind of would be.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #192
Being a Coventry fan has taught me to never say it can't get any worse! Of course any chance to get shot of SISU is something to be welcomed but we'd be wise to not blindly jump in with someone we know little about. A few initial questions I think we need answers to:

The administator chap (not Appy the other guy) said PH4 didn't have the funds himself to buy the club and the article today says he's part of a consortium so who else is in it?

He's a property developer, is he buying the 50% of ACL or is CCFC, once he has control, buying the 50%?

As we know having 50% doesn't really gain a lot other than a seat at the ACL table, is there a plan to purchase the councils 50%?

Will we pay rent at the lease rate or has a new agreement either been reached already or would need to be in place to complete takeover?

Some outline of a business plan, how do than plan to run the club profitably (assuming they aren't planning to lose money), what level do they think we can reach while being sustainable?

Sure there's more but I think if the answers to those questions didn't set off any alarms 99.9% of fans would welcome him with open arms.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #193
All worthwhile questions and ones which I suspect will have been posed by ACL, the administrator, and other members of the consortium. I would like to think he has a concrete business plan which will convince people he can do better than his (hopeful) predecessors.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #194
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All worthwhile questions and ones which I suspect will have been posed by ACL, the administrator, and other members of the consortium. I would like to think he has a concrete business plan which will convince people he can do better than his (hopeful) predecessors.
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As ACL and other members of the consortium would have supposedly posed similar questions to SISU, do you trust their judgement?
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • May 16, 2013
  • #195
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Deleted member 5849 said:
As ACL and other members of the consortium would have supposedly posed similar questions to SISU, do you trust their judgement?
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Why would Acl have got involved with the sisu takeover? It had nothing to do with them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #196
Deleted member 5849 said:
As ACL and other members of the consortium would have supposedly posed similar questions to SISU, do you trust their judgement?
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This is quite different-SISU were not also trying to take on half of ACL and were also not buying a club currently in administration. I will trust the administrator to scrutinise the bid properly and also trust the charity, legally bound by the Charity Commission, to do the same with Haskell's intentions.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #197
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I will trust the administrator to scrutinise the bid properly
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So if the administrator decides a bid from SISU is a better option, you will accept that?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #198
Deleted member 5849 said:
So if the administrator decides a bid from SISU is a better option, you will accept that?
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I'm not sure how SISU could bid when the vast majority of the debt is owed to themselves, but if he had strong justification that Haskell's bid was severely flawed then yes I would. I don't want preservation of the status quo and if Haskell's takeover did that then of course I wouldn't be in favour.
 

singers_pore

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #199
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not sure how SISU could bid when the vast majority of the debt is owed to themselves, but if he had strong justification that Haskell's bid was severely flawed then yes I would. I don't want preservation of the status quo and if Haskell's takeover did that then of course I wouldn't be in favour.
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Simple... a debt to equity swap. Means SISU can repurchase Ltd without spending a penny.
 

James Smith

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #200
Deleted member 5849 said:
So if the administrator decides a bid from SISU is a better option, you will accept that?
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Personally I wouldn't like it but I'd have to accept it if everything was above board.
 

Colonel Mustard

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #201
valiant15 said:
Utter bollox.
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Your memory must be sub-par. The likes of Cranie, Westwood and Gunnarsson walked for free; they should have been sold.
 
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Noggin

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #202
Deleted member 5849 said:
So if the administrator decides a bid from SISU is a better option, you will accept that?
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If the administrator decides the sisu bid is best it's because its whats best for arvo not whats best for CCFC. if he decides that a bid from sisu is best the club is dead, at best we are heading to league 2. I see no way to survive as even an average league 1 club if the sisus plan really is to move us away.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #203
We are on BBC 1 news in a few minutes
 

WillieStanley

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #204
Colonel Mustard said:
Your memory must be sub-par. The likes of Cranie, Westwood and Gunnarsson walked for free; they should have been sold.
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Cries of "I can't believe they're selling all of our biggest playing assets!! Surely they're worth more here where they can help us win the league?? They didn't even bother offering a new contract!! SISU OUT!! :blue::blue::blue:"
 
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rustyredline

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #205
Deleted member 5849 said:
how much more directly I can say 'I do not want SISU here' and 'SISU have failed' without those words being read as 'I love SISU and am bumming Fisher'!
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Why do you spend most of your time on here arguing with people who really don't want sisu here. You just do it for shock value I imagine. I don't think the club could last another season with sisu so I am all for a fresh owner who has done a deal to secure 50% of ACL. I think we should be hopeful about this story not feeling sorry for a company that has had certain chances but blew them in the hope they could rip off tax payers and a charity.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #206
rustyredline said:
Why do you spend most of your time on here arguing with people who really don't want sisu here. You just do it for shock value I imagine. I don't think the club could last another season with sisu so I am all for a fresh owner who has done a deal to secure 50% of ACL. I think we should be hopeful about this story not feeling sorry for a company that has had certain chances but blew them in the hope they could rip off tax payers and a charity.
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Please get a grip you're going to upset some people on here and you know what they're like do hope you know what you're doing?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #207
He did say Higgs not ACL just to clear that up.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #208
rustyredline said:
Why do you spend most of your time on here arguing with people who really don't want sisu here. You just do it for shock value I imagine.
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Another one who really is incapable of reading and leaps to all kinds of conclusions.

Perhaps I naively think some city fans would have learned not to go for the zombie pack mentality and demand new owners they know feck all about (or they know they've failed in the past and still support them for some bizarre reason!), so they can then spend however long afterwards bleating on like miserable sozzled old drug addicts about how they've been screwed over.

I could equally ask why you want to get rid of people whose views differ from yours. Pathetic that's what it is, people like you who kill the club, and then you wonder why feck all fans go when some are so nobbish towards their fellow supporters. Seriously, some of you need to get a grip and stop thinking everyone's out to get you. This ain't your fecking board anymore than it is mine, so stop trying to shut others up and either talk to them, or shut the feck up.
 
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rustyredline

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #209
Deleted member 5849 said:
I could equally ask why you want to get rid of people whose views differ from yours. Pathetic that's what it is, people like you who kill the club, and then you wonder why feck all fans go when some are so nobbish towards their fellow supporters.
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I was asking why you always argue sisu's corner if you want them gone? We're not just talking being dubious of new owners I was talking about their business tactics and ethics. If you really want sisu gone you don't come across like that and seem to question everything that is detrimental to sisu and then bleet that's because you're a proper fan. No need to resort to namecalling(zombie, nobbish?) something you're quick to label others with I've noticed
 

I'mARealWizard

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  • May 16, 2013
  • #210
Deleted member 5849 said:
Seriously, some of you need to get a grip and stop thinking everyone's out to get you. This ain't your fecking board anymore than it is mine, so stop trying to shut others up and either talk to them, or shut the feck up.
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He's talking to you Nick!
 
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