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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #176
TomRad85 said:
The Bundesliga is obviously a level down from the Premiership in general. Outside of Bayern who i still consider to be the best club team in the world right now.

How much do you think you'd have to pay for JCH right now?
Same question for our strikers?

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It's a top 5 euro league. It's not a drop down like championship to league 1.

Jch worth 1m? Around same as we sold Chaplin for.

Horses for courses. Some players click at a club and it doesn't happen foe them elsewhere.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #177
covcity4life said:
It's a top 5 euro league. It's not a drop down like championship to league 1.

Jch worth 1m? Around same as we sold Chaplin for.
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Haha 1m alright then. You'd do well to get him for 5m right now.

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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #178
TomRad85 said:
Haha 1m alright then. You'd do well to get him for 5m right now.

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If you say so
 

TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #179
covcity4life said:
If you say so
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No you would.

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Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #180
covcity4life said:
It's a top 5 euro league. It's not a drop down like championship to league 1.

Jch worth 1m? Around same as we sold Chaplin for.

Horses for courses. Some players click at a club and it doesn't happen foe them elsewhere.
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£1m for a player who scored more than Toney in league 1 - ok
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #181
Grendel said:
£1m for a player who scored more than Toney in league 1 - ok
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They bought him for more than that didn’t they?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #182
£1.25m

Jonson Clarke-Harris transfer recap: Reaction as Gas forward joins Peterborough

The star-striker had an offer on the table from Bristol Rovers but has left to join the League One promotion hopefuls
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #183
SlowerThanPlatt said:
They bought him for more than that didn’t they?
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I’d say £3-4m up front
 

Evo1883

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #184
Toney cost Brentford 5 million plus 10 million in add ons .

Harris scored more and is 1 year older

I'd say Pete was right 3 -4 Mill upfront with add ons
 

covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #185
Fair enough my valuation low I can accept that

Regardless considering how club has done since then not sure why we should regret it

He didn't score that amount for us so maybe if we kept him we wouldn't be in championship right now?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #186
covcity4life said:
Fair enough my valuation low I can accept that

Regardless considering how club has done since then not sure why we should regret it

He didn't score that amount for us so maybe if we kept him we wouldn't be in championship right now?
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Guess if we hadn’t got rid of Maddison we not be either - thank god for Shipley
 
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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #187
Grendel said:
Guess if we hadn’t got rid of Maddison we not be either - thank god for Shipley
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Maddison is a international level talent jch is not. We don't even know if jch is championship level yet.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #188
covcity4life said:
Fair enough my valuation low I can accept that

Regardless considering how club has done since then not sure why we should regret it

He didn't score that amount for us so maybe if we kept him we wouldn't be in championship right now?
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I'm not quite sure why people keep saying look how we've done since as an argument. I'm banging my against a brick wall but it's completely unrelated.
He didn't score that amount for us because we didn't realise what we had. That is the mistake.

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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #189
Evo1883 said:
Toney cost Brentford 5 million plus 10 million in add ons .

Harris scored more and is 1 year older

I'd say Pete was right 3 -4 Mill upfront with add ons
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Toney only played 32 games tbf, he was on track to score more over a season.

Being able to score 30 goals at any pro level is some going though
 

Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #190
covcity4life said:
Maddison is a international level talent jch is not. We don't even know if jch is championship level yet.
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Guess it’s a good job we have biamou and not Adam Armstrong then
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #191
Grendel said:
Guess it’s a good job we have biamou and not Adam Armstrong then
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We'd never have gone up with Jacob Murphy, thank God we had Jobello instead.

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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #192
Grendel said:
Guess it’s a good job we have biamou and not Adam Armstrong then
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Biamou isn't our first choice striker. I doubt if we had Armstrong he would be 3rd or 4th choice

Edit in case ppl misunderstand Armstrong wouldn't play the Biamou role of 3rd 4th choice striker.
 
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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #193
You can't have a go at MR for getting rid when he went on to have success without him

You can wiah he had stayed personally but ultimately unless JCH smashes it in championship you cannot say MR got it wrong in grand scheme of things
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #194
TomRad85 said:
We'd never have gone up with Jacob Murphy, thank God we had Jobello instead.

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Lol
 

clint van damme

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #195
TomRad85 said:
Haha 1m alright then. You'd do well to get him for 5m right now.

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but that doesn't mean he'd be worth 5 million if he'd stayed with us.
Sometimes the move is best for both parties and I think that was the case with him.
 
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NortonSkyBlue

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #196
TomRad85 said:
I'm not quite sure why people keep saying look how we've done since as an argument. I'm banging my against a brick wall but it's completely unrelated.
He didn't score that amount for us because we didn't realise what we had. That is the mistake.

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He didn't score that amount for us because he couldn't be bothered half the time, went down like a lead weight most of the time and we did realise what we had. That is why he was off loaded.
Well done to him since though and that is him rectifying his mistake.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #197
clint van damme said:
but that doesn't mean he'd be worth 5 million if he'd stayed with us.
Sometimes the move is best for both parties and I think that was the case with him.
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I don't think it was the best for both parties. For him maybe, not for us. Can't see how JCH coming off the bench last season would have seen us any worse off than bringing either of the deadly duo on.

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clint van damme

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #198
TomRad85 said:
I don't think it was the best for both parties. For him maybe, not for us. Can't see how JCH coming off the bench last season would have seen us any worse off than bringing either of the deadly duo on.

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I don't disagree wit that, but coming off the bench and doing better than Max or Baka doesn't mean we'd have had a 5 million Championship striker on our hands.
 
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procdoc

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #199
Of course in hindsight it may have been a mistake to let JCH go. No one (including Grendel) said they thought he’d go on to be a prolific goal scorer. We done fine without him and he’s done fine without us.
There are countless players throughout history that were let go only to blossom elsewhere, that’s football
 

TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #200
clint van damme said:
I don't disagree wit that, but coming off the bench and doing better than Max or Baka doesn't mean we'd have had a 5 million Championship striker on our hands.
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No I don't disagree with that either. His path has led him to be worth that much. But what we would have at an absolute minimum is a better option off the bench currently. If you look at it that way it's not a glaring error, but it still is one, in my eyes.

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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #201
TomRad85 said:
No I don't disagree with that either. His path has led him to be worth that much. But what we would have at an absolute minimum is a better option off the bench currently. If you look at it that way it's not a glaring error, but it still is one, in my eyes.

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So you are saying that JCH would have been willing to sit on the bench then for the whole season
 

stupot07

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #202
Surely Charlie Wyke is the best striker in League one? 25 goals all from open play at 137 minutes per goal..JCH has 31, but 10 were penalties so scored 4 less from open play than Wyke. 21 at 186 minutes per goal is still impressive but not as lethal as Wyke.



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stupot07

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #203
TomRad85 said:
No I don't disagree with that either. His path has led him to be worth that much. But what we would have at an absolute minimum is a better option off the bench currently. If you look at it that way it's not a glaring error, but it still is one, in my eyes.

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He was one of our highest earners. We couldn't afford to have someone on his wage on the bench.

Had we not offloaded JCH were wouldn't have had the funds in the wage bill to strengthen elsewhere. Ffs just give it up and move on.

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Skybluefaz

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #204
stupot07 said:
Surely Charlie Wyke is the best striker in League one? 25 goals all from open play at 137 minutes per goal..JCH has 31, but 10 were penalties so scored 4 less from open play than Wyke. 21 at 186 minutes per goal is still impressive but not as lethal as Wyke.



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Wyke looked a cart horse for Sunderland when they played us at St Andrews. Are we now valuing him as a 5 million pound player? It's a ridiculous argument playing out here. As obvious as it seems to say we should have kept him, there is nothing to say we would have won the league with him. It is what it is.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #205
stupot07 said:
He was one of our highest earners. We couldn't afford to have someone on his wage on the bench.

Had we not offloaded JCH were wouldn't have had the funds in the wage bill to strengthen elsewhere. Ffs just give it up and move on.

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I have moved on you weirdo, I couldn't really give 2 shits about JCH. It just so happens a discussion broke out whether letting him go was an error, I can't see any argument for it not being as we'd absolute kill for a player with his goal record over the last couple of seasons. If Peterbrough had a player not called JCH on their books doing what he's done and we signed him, everyone would be going bananas with excitement.

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TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #206
Ccfcisparks said:
So you are saying that JCH would have been willing to sit on the bench then for the whole season
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Well no, I think he'd have got plenty of game time actually and probably had enough opportunity to nail down a starting spot. The current crop aren't pulling up any trees are they.

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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #207
TomRad85 said:
Well no, I think he'd have got plenty of game time actually and probably had enough opportunity to nail down a starting spot. The current crop aren't pulling up any trees are they.

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Anything else you can tell us that you've seen in your crystal ball
 

TomRad85

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #208
Ccfcisparks said:
Anything else you can tell us that you've seen in your crystal ball
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Doesn't need a crystal ball, just eyes and a brain. So you're halfway there.

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stupot07

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #209
TomRad85 said:
I have moved on you weirdo, I couldn't really give 2 shits about JCH. It just so happens a discussion broke out whether letting him go was an error, I can't see any argument for it not being as we'd absolute kill for a player with his goal record over the last couple of seasons. If Peterbrough had a player not called JCH on their books doing what he's done and we signed him, everyone would be going bananas with excitement.

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You say you have moved on yet you're still commenting on it.


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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #210
TomRad85 said:
We'd never have gone up with Jacob Murphy, thank God we had Jobello instead.

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jobello had never been in a losing City team until his sub appearance vs Forest thus season.
 
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