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Otis

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #176
robbiethemole said:
The difference with cricket is the camera is facing directly down the pitch, enabling a true line of flight of the ball, the only way to be sure if Haji was onside would be to have a camera directly at 90 degrees to the pitch. Obviously that will never be the case, but maybe a 'flying eye' style one might have kept up with pace with the game, and given a birdseye view over the pitch
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Yeah, I was thinking that. Like they have in American Football.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #177
Otis said:
Yeah, I was thinking that. Like they have in American Football.
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there's so much money sloshing around in footy, surely they should have the best tech money can buy, not rely on outdated, manipulatable equipment, an old Polaroid would be more accurate than the crap used on Sunday
 

rob9872

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #178
blunted said:
Shit, can somebody tell me which pill to take to see the truth.
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The bitterest ... but if I took it for 100 years, I couldn't feel anymore ill!
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #179
blunted said:
£500k for winning the semi, £1 million for losing the final or £2 million if we won ( I think). Add TV money and merchandise and massive gates until the end of season. A few bob then. A lot for us, Sweet FA for the Manc clubs.
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So about £2m then.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #180
Has anyone actually come out and proved it was actually offside because from the photos I’ve seen there’s nothing that proves even his toe is offside, can’t get it changed but at least get it explained, can’t they ask for at least the audio to be released ?
 
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shepardo01

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #181
quinn1971 said:
Has anyone actually come out and proved it was actually offside because from the photos I’ve seen there’s nothing that proves even his toe is offside, can’t get it changed but at least get it explained, can’t they ask for at least the audio to be released ?
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No!
Quite a few people are just lapping up the incorrectly drawn lines (the one over AWBs foot) and saying, ahh, it was so close but he is offside be a toe-nail.....
When he wasn't bloody offside!!!
 
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quinn1971

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #182
shepardo01 said:
No!
Quite a few people are just lapping up the incorrectly drawn lines (the one over AWBs foot) and saying, ahh, it was so close but he is offside be a toe-nail.....
When he wasn't bloody offside!!!
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Exactly, nothing from the club or anyone ?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #183
rob9872 said:
The bitterest ... but if I took it for 100 years, I couldn't feel anymore ill!
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I think I'm suffering shell shock still, I think this is what it must of felt like, I am being light hearted by the way before people jump on my back
 
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JoeCCFCPUSB

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #184
just spotted Peter Bankes at the trafford centre wearin a united shirt with Jaap Stam on the back...
 

shepardo01

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #185
From 17:33 in this video ...another good angle...
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #186
JoeCCFCPUSB said:
just spotted Peter Bankes at the trafford centre wearin a united shirt with Jaap Stam on the back...
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Can't be, the twat is on VAR at Arsenal tonight
 
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Ashdown

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  • Apr 23, 2024
  • #187
Fuck this Bankes cheat, he will know it, his family and friends will know it. He is just another in a long line of gutless wankers leaned on by big business to favour the super rich. Soulless individual who will have to live with his actions, I hope some conscience weevil fucks his brain up the prick !
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #188
Ashdown said:
Fuck this Bankes cheat, he will know it, his family and friends will know it. He is just another in a long line of gutless wankers leaned on by big business to favour the super rich. Soulless individual who will have to live with his actions, I hope some conscience weevil fucks his brain up the prick !
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Best post on here since Sunday.
 

Mcbean

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #189
You can’t rock the FA boat or we will
Suffer for it and there’s a lot of people doing it without the club being involved - let’s see where it takes us - sadly there have been a number of similar instances in the Prem -should there be any investigation it will open a massive can of worms which the FA / Prem couldn’t survive and there’s a lot of very rich people who have a lot to lose
 
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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #190
shepardo01 said:
From 17:33 in this video ...another good angle...
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hmmmm
 
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Frank Sidebottom

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #191

Not sure about Peter Bankes, But this is the ref from Sunday Rob Jones opening a new flower shop in Marple on Friday..... I did hear a rumour that Peter may have cut the ribbon on a new Vape shop in Stretford on Saturday Morning.... but sadly I don't have any evidence of that.
 
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Jim

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #192
So the ref that gave us the penalty and didn’t call the goal offside…?
 

Robinshio

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #193
Jim said:
So the ref that gave us the penalty and didn’t call the goal offside…?
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the only poor decision from the ref was to not send their keeper off
he had 2 opportunities
1. Directly after the booking, he should have walked
2, in the penalties, because he effectively told the ref he was going to cheat, and then did in my mind is a red card offence as it was so premediated
 

usskyblue

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #194
There really isn’t a conspiracy, it’s the technology and the implementation that’s the issue.

This Hackett interview is very enlightening. VAR can’t accurately determine offsides as close as a toenail because the system being used simply doesn’t have that level of accuracy

Former Premier League and FIFA referee Keith Hackett on VAR decision-making, after Coventry City's dramatic FA Cup semi-final. - Former Premier League and FIFA referee Keith Hackett on VAR decision-making, after Coventry City's dramatic FA Cup semi-f

BBC CWR's Carson Wishart chats to the former PGMOL head, after a sour ending at Wembley.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #195
usskyblue said:
There really isn’t a conspiracy, it’s the technology and the implementation that’s the issue.

This Hackett interview is very enlightening. VAR can’t accurately determine offsides as close as a toenail because the system being used simply doesn’t have that level of accuracy
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This is the key thing for me. I've been saying since they brought it in the maths doesn't add up. You simply can't get the level of accuracy they're using it for.

Quite surprised this hasn't been picked up on more over the last few years as is something factual rather than claiming the officials are useless or there's a conspiracy against certain clubs.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #196
usskyblue said:
There really isn’t a conspiracy, it’s the technology and the implementation that’s the issue.

This Hackett interview is very enlightening. VAR can’t accurately determine offsides as close as a toenail because the system being used simply doesn’t have that level of accuracy

Former Premier League and FIFA referee Keith Hackett on VAR decision-making, after Coventry City's dramatic FA Cup semi-final. - Former Premier League and FIFA referee Keith Hackett on VAR decision-making, after Coventry City's dramatic FA Cup semi-f

BBC CWR's Carson Wishart chats to the former PGMOL head, after a sour ending at Wembley.
www.bbc.co.uk
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So you go to the refs initial desicion as its to close to call, VaR wasn't intended for these millimetre/millisecond desicions, The club should be challenging this and want the decision reversed, compo being offered and a final place at the expense of Man U and we say fuck off but we'll take the money though and it gets global recognition
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #197
It either needs to be binned off or only used when it’s overly obvious a mistake has been made by the referee.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #198
Gynnsthetonic said:
So you go to the refs initial desicion as its to close to call, VaR wasn't intended for these millimetre/millisecond desicions, The club should be challenging this and want the decision reversed, compo being offered and a final place at the expense of Man U and we say fuck off but we'll take the money though and it gets global recognition
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I doubt the club will do anything to challenge it at this point.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #199
The court of arbitration for sport would look into it maybe, Court of Arbitration for Sport - Wikipedia
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #200
Sick Boy said:
I doubt the club will do anything to challenge it at this point.
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They're very quiet, I wouldn't want to be reinstated, the moment has gone, challenge it and I'm sure a lot of clubs will be behind us, VaR light is the way forward on clear and obvious desicions only
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #201
@SimonGilbert where are you. We need your help
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #202
That offside still irks me, but I’d never want to see the club going down the legal route to try and get an outcome out of this (more competition money or final place etc.,)

We’ve seen numerous times with decisions worse than that one that nothing gets done, and eventually just puts the club in a bad light (look at the criticism Forest are getting right now for exploring a public challenge to VAR decisions, and Liverpool got for asking for a replay). I’ve seen almost complete unity across all (non Man U) fans all over the world that we were robbed or deserved the final, no need to sour it by looking like chancers/victims feeling hard done by, or vindictively going after the referees/officials.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #203
HadjiChippo said:
That offside still irks me, but I’d never want to see the club going down the legal route to try and get an outcome out of this (more competition money or final place etc.,)

We’ve seen numerous times with decisions worse than that one that nothing gets done, and eventually just puts the club in a bad light (look at the criticism Forest are getting right now for exploring a public challenge to VAR decisions, and Liverpool got for asking for a replay). I’ve seen almost complete unity across all (non Man U) fans all over the world that we were robbed or deserved the final, no need to sour it by looking like chancers/victims feeling hard done by, or vindictively going after the referees/officials.
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You've just had a referee say it's inconclusive and impossible to call, someone has to make a stand sooner or later.
Offer us a place in the Europa sheild as compensation
 
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MalcSB

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #204
The FA will do FA about this. They certainly can’t explain or justify it, it‘s inexplicable and unjustifiable.
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #205
Gynnsthetonic said:
You've just had a referee say it's inconclusive and impossible to call, someone has to make a stand sooner or later.
Offer us a place in the Europa sheild as compensation
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That’s never happening. What compensation do you give the side who we replace? (England can’t be given an extra European place arbitrarily)

It’s over. Offsides are already changing next season, we just have to accept that VAR likely fucked us out of a final, but a different referee on a different day doesn’t give the 93 min pen and we probably lose 3-2. Swings and roundabouts.
 

edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #206
We need to move on. Nothing will happen.

Just make sure it is brought up loud & clear in the build up to our next match at Wembley. Just so it's fresh in everyone's mind.
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #207
Having just listened to Keith Hackett, there is no way that the on field decision should have been overturned given the technology available.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #208
We let it go now. Every real football fan in the country knows who won, but that’s it.
We have another important game tonight, so let’s get on with it. PUSB
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #209
HadjiChippo said:
That’s never happening. What compensation do you give the side who we replace? (England can’t be given an extra European place arbitrarily)

It’s over. Offsides are already changing next season, we just have to accept that VAR likely fucked us out of a final, but a different referee on a different day doesn’t give the 93 min pen and we probably lose 3-2. Swings and roundabouts.
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The penalty was a penalty. Seen by the Referee and would have been reviewed by VAR and not overturned.
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #210
HadjiChippo said:
That’s never happening. What compensation do you give the side who we replace? (England can’t be given an extra European place arbitrarily)

It’s over. Offsides are already changing next season, we just have to accept that VAR likely fucked us out of a final, but a different referee on a different day doesn’t give the 93 min pen and we probably lose 3-2. Swings and roundabouts.
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The hand ball was a stonewall penalty lol.
This was corruption of the highest order, but the good thing is now, and largely due to Nottingham Forest, fans now think VAR is corrupt, so good luck to the PL and FA from now on. They brought their own problems
 
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