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Transfer Rumour Panzo coming back? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date May 30, 2023
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #316
Balli001 said:
I think he lost confidence for a spell then lost his place. I think he has ability but I'd only sign him permanently not on loan
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I wouldn't , we've moved on and are recruiting better than at this stage last season . Panzo was ultimately a bad loan and didn't really offer anything for the second half of the season
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #317
SleepyGinger said:
The McNally obsession is weird
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Really weird
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #318
David O'Day said:
Panzo was fine, Doyle was just really, really good. No shame in not being able to get in the team 2nd half of last season
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Fair assessment but I don't see massive improvement in Panzo
 

Balli001

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #319
Martin180 said:
I wouldn't , we've moved on and are recruiting better than at this stage last season . Panzo was ultimately a bad loan and didn't really offer anything for the second half of the season
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I still disagree with you.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #320
Martin180 said:
Absolutely
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They play different sides of the defence ffs
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #321
Martin180 said:
Could do better also
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Yeah hopefully Binks
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #322
So much improvement in Panzo to come
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #323
Wouldn’t want him on loan again.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #324
Martin180 said:
Superb ?
Our upturn in form coincided with him being dropped for better technical players in Doyle and McNally
I hope we avoid getting him back
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Superb maybe a bit strong but he was good yes
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #325
Martin180 said:
Fair assessment but I don't see massive improvement in Panzo
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he was really good at times as well

just because because our young player of the year was better doesn't mean he wasn't good
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #326
Matt smith said:
So much improvement in Panzo to come
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Where exactly ?
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #327
Martin180 said:
Where exactly ?
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Did you watch him on that great run we had pre World Cup!

he’s a good player and has just as much potential as McNally to make it at the top level in my opinion
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #328
David O'Day said:
he was really good at times as well

just because because our young player of the year was better doesn't mean he wasn't good
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I think if we're getting another lcb it needs to be a more experienced player as when Fadz is out our back line is very young
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #329
Martin180 said:
Superb ?

Our upturn in form coincided with him being dropped for better technical players in Doyle and McNally
I hope we avoid getting him back
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He was in the side in the first upturn in form.

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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #330
Martin180 said:
I think if we're getting another lcb it needs to be a more experienced players as when Fadz is out our back line is very young
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No I do get that point, so you’d say no to the Chelsea guy?
 

Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #331
Matt smith said:
Did you watch him on that great run we had pre World Cup!

he’s a good player
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I was asking where the massive improvement was to come ?
He was athletic and physical but technically inept , improving that is difficult in the short term
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #332
Martin180 said:
I was asking where the massive improvement was to come ?
He was athletic and physical but technically inept , improving that is difficult in the short term
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Technically inept? Im sorry I disagree with that

was constantly bringing the ball forward
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #333
Matt smith said:
No I do get that point, so you’d say no to the Chelsea guy?
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No I definitely wouldn't as he is superb but without Fadz and Bidwell our back 5 would have an average age of 22/23
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #334
Martin180 said:
No I definitely wouldn't as he is superb but without Fadz and Bidwell our back 5 would have an average age of 22/23
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Have you seen him play?
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #335
Martin180 said:
I was asking where the massive improvement was to come ?
He was athletic and physical but technically inept , improving that is difficult in the short term
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Technically inept? ok
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #336
What does the tweet say?
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #337
David O'Day said:
Technically inept? ok
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Honestly don’t get the criticism of Panzo
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #338
SkyBlue_Adam said:
What does the tweet say?
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We’re looking at him basically
 

Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #339
Matt smith said:
Have you seen him play?
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Im saying I would take him , you asked if I would be opposed to it and I said I definitely wouldn't be
Please read the replies
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #340
Martin180 said:
Im saying I would take him , you asked if I would be opposed to it and I said I definitely wouldn't be
Please read the replies
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Yes I read them

you said you wanted experience ie no Panzo but you want humphries so you’ve contradicted yourself

I’m sorry that run we had pre World Cup Panzo was very good
 

PlasticPigsAtTheValley

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #341
I think people's perspective of Panzo is poisoned by a recency bias, particularly after what happened in the play-off final. He wasn't actually a bad player, he just fell out of form and was probably lacking in confidence after being displaced by Callum Doyle (who was class) in the latter half of the season. Realistically, as a left-footed CB around the age of 22-23, he currently fits our model of recruitment, and I think people have written him off far too soon. There's no doubt a decent player there imo. Definitely wouldn't mind having him back, especially for some much needed squad depth in the defensive department.
Alternatively, I also wouldn't mind taking a punt at Humphreys who would seem to offer some potentially similar qualities minus the trauma attached to Panzo due to that play-off incident
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #342
Matt smith said:
Yes I read them

you said you wanted experience ie no Panzo but you want humphries so you’ve contradicted yourself
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No you asked if I would take Humphries after I stated I would prefer an experienced player
I would absolutely take Humphries but worry about the age and experience of our back line without another older head
Please read the replies
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #343
Martin180 said:
No you asked if I would take Humphries after I stated I would prefer an experienced player
I would absolutely take Humphries but worry about the age and experience of our back line without another older head
Please read the replies
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Panzo would be a great permanent addition, clear to see he has a great relationship with Adi too
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #344
PlasticPigsAtTheValley said:
I think people's perspective of Panzo is poisoned by a recency bias, particularly after what happened in the play-off final. He wasn't actually a bad player, he just fell out of form and was probably lacking in confidence after being displaced by Callum Doyle (who was class) in the latter half of the season. Realistically, as a left-footed CB around the age of 22-23, he currently fits our model of recruitment, and I think people have written him off far too soon. There's no doubt a decent player there imo. Definitely wouldn't mind having him back, especially for some much needed squad depth in the defensive department.
Alternatively, I also wouldn't mind taking a punt at Humphreys who would seem to offer some potentially similar qualities minus the trauma attached to Panzo due to that play-off incident
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also in the play-off final if the Luton doesn't slam dunk the ball he's flicked over him and everything is fine
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #345
Matt smith said:
Panzo would be a great permanent addition, clear to see he has a great relationship with Adi too
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especially with all the new players we have.. getting someone in who knows the system and staff is almost priceless
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #346
David O'Day said:
also in the play-off final if the Luton doesn't slam dunk the ball he's flicked over him and everything is fine
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The other centre backs were really good that day remember David
 

Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #347
Matt smith said:
Panzo would be a great permanent addition, clear to see he has a great relationship with Adi too
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Its a loan deal being rumoured ?
 

Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #348
Matt smith said:
The other centre backs were really good that day remember David
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So you would have played Panzo in the playoff final ?
 

Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #349
Martin180 said:
Its a loan deal being rumoured ?
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Not necessarily, said a loan deal to rangers collapsed but nothing else

if it’s another loan I wouldn’t mind exploring another option admittedly but I’d definitely have him back
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #350
Martin180 said:
So you would have played Panzo in the playoff final ?
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No I wouldn’t have, because Doyle is better

our centre backs got dominated all game
 
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