Our Weakest Position (2 Viewers)

RoboCCFC90

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Most strikers have bad patches , he will be fine
This is Haji’s longest baron spell since he’s been at the club, 14 games he’s now played without a goal.

This isn’t just a bad patch unfortunately, he’s missed guilt edge chances.

He’s only contributed one assist in those 14 games and the matches in which he’s contributed a good performance can likely be counted on one hand.

No matter what way you look at, it’s a problem and for Haji’s sake he needs a spell on the bench.
 

Skyblue Bangkok

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This is Haji’s longest baron spell since he’s been at the club, 14 games he’s now played without a goal.

This isn’t just a bad patch unfortunately, he’s missed guilt edge chances.

He’s only contributed one assist in those 14 games and the matches in which he’s contributed a good performance can likely be counted on one hand.

No matter what way you look at, it’s a problem and for Haji’s sake he needs a spell on the bench.
Hopefully at another club
 

southern_comfort

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This is Haji’s longest baron spell since he’s been at the club, 14 games he’s now played without a goal.

This isn’t just a bad patch unfortunately, he’s missed guilt edge chances.

He’s only contributed one assist in those 14 games and the matches in which he’s contributed a good performance can likely be counted on one hand.

No matter what way you look at, it’s a problem and for Haji’s sake he needs a spell on the bench.
And for the clubs sake, this isn’t a rehearsal for the promotion it could be our only chance in decades
Play Simms and stick with it
 

shmmeee

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CB is by far our weakest position.
 

Evo1883

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This is Haji’s longest baron spell since he’s been at the club, 14 games he’s now played without a goal.

This isn’t just a bad patch unfortunately, he’s missed guilt edge chances.

He’s only contributed one assist in those 14 games and the matches in which he’s contributed a good performance can likely be counted on one hand.

No matter what way you look at, it’s a problem and for Haji’s sake he needs a spell on the bench.


Simms alone had 2 long spells last season without scoring now look at him

Wright will be fine on or off the bench , my point was that he will be fine he has too much quality to not be
 

Evo1883

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This is Haji’s longest baron spell since he’s been at the club, 14 games he’s now played without a goal.

This isn’t just a bad patch unfortunately, he’s missed guilt edge chances.

He’s only contributed one assist in those 14 games and the matches in which he’s contributed a good performance can likely be counted on one hand.

No matter what way you look at, it’s a problem and for Haji’s sake he needs a spell on the bench.
Btw if it isnt just a bad patch then what is it ? Not sure i understand what youre saying
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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The players who racked up all the wins earlier this season will soon all be fit. We also have a couple of new players to support them. We may cock up against Leicester (but imo, that's more likely to be because of Bobby Thomas' absence). Once he is back and we have BTA and Torp fit, we'll kick on again. Won't be easy, but this league never was.
 

Great_Expectations

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Simms starting will get us over the line.

Especially with a more dynamic and fresh 3 behind him. We now have the ability to change wingers and the ‘10’ when things aren’t working, and by the looks of it get balls into the box quicker which benefits Simms.

His clumsy touches often overshadow the other good bits he does. He’s far from the finished article but give him consistent game time when he’s fully fit and he’s proven he’ll score goals.

Honestly much rather see him with his characteristic elephant first touch a few times a game than an under confident and zero value add Wright starting.
 

RoboCCFC90

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Btw if it isnt just a bad patch then what is it ? Not sure i understand what youre saying
Haji is not the player we need Haji to be.

Haji was brought in for big money, to replace a player who was one of the best players for this club post Premier League era and despite having 40 goals in 106 games he’s flattered to deceive.

As I’ve said in previous posts, Haji is highly inconsistent in his goal scoring patches, but more than that when he’s not scoring goals, he’s not contributing with assists, notable performances, or anything of note. He’s offered 1 assist in 14 games where’s he scored 0.

The player we need, needs to be influential in as many moments we need him, whether that’s turning in performances where he looks a constant threat and is dangerous, or providing assists for team mates, or better yet scoring goals - right now he’s doing none of the three.

Gyokeres didn’t always score goals, but he provided assists and looked more of a threat going forward which allowed other players to excel - I see none of this with Haji currently.

Players go through baron spells you’re right, but they usually offer something of note. Haji is not, we can’t keep defending him on this.

You know me personally off this forum, you know I’ve been all over the country supporting the club and its players for many years (even in the worst times), like you and many others, I’m not the type of person who usually jumps onto a player with such ease or frustration, but with Haji, I’m sorry to say his attitude looks all wrong and of an individual who doesn’t want to be here, which shows in his performances and I’m at a point where you take what you can get and see him move on.
 

Evo1883

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Haji is not the player we need Haji to be.

Haji was brought in for big money, to replace a player who was one of the best players for this club post Premier League era and despite having 40 goals in 106 games he’s flattered to deceive.

As I’ve said in previous posts, Haji is highly inconsistent in his goal scoring patches, but more than that when he’s not scoring goals, he’s not contributing with assists, notable performances, or anything of note. He’s offered 1 assist in 14 games where’s he scored 0.

The player we need, needs to be influential in as many moments we need him, whether that’s turning in performances where he looks a constant threat and is dangerous, or providing assists for team mates, or better yet scoring goals - right now he’s doing none of the three.

Gyokeres didn’t always score goals, but he provided assists and looked more of a threat going forward which allowed other players to excel - I see none of this with Haji currently.

Players go through baron spells you’re right, but they usually offer something of note. Haji is not, we can’t keep defending him on this.

You know me personally off this forum, you know I’ve been all over the country supporting the club and its players for many years (even in the worst times), like you and many others, I’m not the type of person who usually jumps onto a player with such ease or frustration, but with Haji, I’m sorry to say his attitude looks all wrong and of an individual who doesn’t want to be here, which shows in his performances and I’m at a point where you take what you can get and see him move on.

I dont fully agree with you on this but i agree some time on the side might be in store , either way i back haji to come back to being what he was for us
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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I would argue LB is our weakest position just based on the drop off after Dasilva.

Think Wright and Simms are both decent strikers. Wright is a massive confidence player and looks to be in his own head. Thought it was telling Lampard’s actions when he was taken off.

Simms gets a bit of a bad rap as feel he is a good striker for us and bar last season has a good record. Feel many other championship teams, he would be a starter for.

Do feel as though nether really suit how we play with Rudoni as don’t think either are great in the hold up play needed when he vacates the 10 position. Personally think we need to assess how we want play as don’t think we are currently playing to their strengths (compare how direct we’ve been compared to earlier in the season).
 

Lamps

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So you cant be happy being 1st, and be pissed at poor performances at the same time?

I mean, a month ago people were saying, we're 12 points clear and people still finding things to moan about.
Then, we're 10 points clear...
We're 8 points clear...

How long, on this current run of form until its, we're 3 points behind second?
I wouldn't consider people raging at the results as being happy. As you say some were moaning when we were winning nearly every game.

And yes the gap is smaller. I would be worried if there was no visible reason for it. Nearly everyone said they would be very happy if we were near the top after our November and December games. Yet we're still top with a gap even though we've had injuries to most of our 1st choice attacking players, had the flu hang around for a few weeks which caused a lot of problems and now another suspension.

Nearly everyone's back from injury. We've added new players including with Prem experience. If the results don't pick up before someone gets within a couple of points of I will consider the possibility of moving down the table. We've got 4 home games out of the next 6 games. Our 2 away games are Norwich and QPR. If the gap has closed after these 6 games I'll be looking for my white flag and how many points are needed for 6th.
 

Offhegoes

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Yes Simms has a decent goals/mins ratio.
Yes Wright has 8 and "the boys are backing him"

But neither are ruthless/hungry enough to get us over the line.

They are too soft and have zero killer instinct.

We needs somebody who has a real presence and a strikers instinct. No idea who - but I'd honestly have Bamford and Piroe in over either of these two and be more confident of us converting balls into the box and ruthlessly putting away loose balls (a fair few at Charlton after good saves that out forwards just stared at)
20 months ago Simms & Wright terrorised the Wolves defence, so I don't agree with that. The way Frank likes to play, the central striker is not always going to blossom. We have a fox in the box in Simms. We have a pacey forward in Haji, and we have the energy of BTA. Of course we could upgrade, but to get better than any of those 3 would cost £15-20 million minimum. Sell Wright, and tempt Josh Sargent from Norwich. That's one move I'd be happy with.
 

skybluejeff

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Not sure this will go down well with some. But it's there for all to see.

Out Weakest position currently, on form, is up front. You can all belly ache as much as you want, but they aren't top 2 material there.

We'd be miles clear with an effective forward.
I think the main problem is the hold up play is not good enough.
 

Cally Fedora

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That’s what happens when you have two players who can’t hold the ball up and you keep playing it in to their feet. Of course you have to do it occasionally and they should be better but both thrive on balls in behind.
 

Hincha

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CB is by far our weakest position.

I think the CBs get a rough time of it when the midfield isn't pressing well.

When Liverpool lost 7/8 domestic games earlier this season everyone was saying how bad Van Dijk/Konate were playing when in fact they were just getting exposed way more because of the changes in midfield no longer providing protection.

Our weakest position is CM as nobody can replicate Torp's role. 2nd is LB as the same goes with JDS - but he isn't made of weetabix so it's usually only an issue when he gets a mindless straight red.

Luckily, as per the Guardian article, it looks like the club know this and are acting upon it.
 

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