Our strikers…… (5 Viewers)

The current strikers? Good enough or not?

  • Good enough. YES

    Votes: 20 14.3%
  • Not good enough. NO

    Votes: 120 85.7%

  • Total voters
    140

Lamps

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Fook me this voting is similar to the GK one. I was delighted when we brought in Rushworth. This time I'm part of the 60 odd %. Shit. A striker like Wright who has been struggling since last year, Simms and BTA must be world beaters 🤔
 

skybluecam

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Wright is good enough. If the plan is for him to be first choice I don't think it's a "glaring weakness" at all.

The issue is we have too many players for the position (Wright, Simms, BTA, Bassette) and of those Wright & Simms are on big wages while BTA is probably on a decent one too. So I assume we'd have to get rid to bring in another really.
 

chickentikkamasala

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What idiots they are. They should try and get the ball to our prolific strikers.
And I see that as exactly the issue, why the hell sprint forward, take on 2/3 players then look back and pass it back to a defender?

Possession? Wear the opposition down? God knows but it’s frustrating to watch at times

Attack can be the best form of defence. Slowing the game down and wearing the opposition out is not the way forward.

A new striker with this style of play won’t make a bit of difference at all.
 

quinn1971

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Don’t get all this we’re desperate for a striker, if wright stays fit he’ll get the goals we need, 12 in 29 games, he’d of got 20 easily, hopefully he doesn’t miss too many games and stays fit, he’ll be fine
 

shepardo01

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*No.
Not for our style of play.

(Wright has got something - when fit he's very good. But not as a lone striker feeding off crosses. Far better coming in off the left. Yes he is good enough - NOT as a 9 - unless opposition play a high line and we alter our style of play to get it forward down the middle!!

We have stunted Bassette's progress. He is one to play in behind high lines. (Never tried to do this)

Simms - would love him to do well. Has Everything you want physically to be the type of number 9 we need. But soft as anything, no desire to get in and sniff a loose ball, and no killer instinct.

BTA - poor touch, too many touches, brings defenders back into play with this. Can't finish.
 

Lamps

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Wright is good enough. If the plan is for him to be first choice I don't think it's a "glaring weakness" at all.

The issue is we have too many players for the position (Wright, Simms, BTA, Bassette) and of those Wright & Simms are on big wages while BTA is probably on a decent one too. So I assume we'd have to get rid to bring in another really.
Wright is certainly good enough. The big question is if he is going to be fit enough. We're going into the 2025 season with our only striker we can rely on struggling with fitness since 2024. August happens tomorrow. Our 1st game is just over a week away. Do we risk our other strikers that got a total of 10 goals between them last season keeping up with the pace until Wright is fit?

Excuse me. I'm not right in the head but I still can't understand those who think this could be a good move.
 

Samo

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Wright - Yes on his day and if you can keep him fit.
BTA - Can't do the simple stuff but can be explosive off the bench.
Simms - If he still cannot motivate himself he needs to go.
Bassette - Potential but not ready, loan him out.

= No
 

skybluecam

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Wright is certainly good enough. The big question is if he is going to be fit enough. We're going into the 2025 season with our only striker we can rely on struggling with fitness since 2024. August happens tomorrow. Our 1st game is just over a week away. Do we risk our other strikers that got a total of 10 goals between them last season keeping up with the pace until Wright is fit?

Excuse me. I'm not right in the head but I still can't understand those who think this could be a good move.
I'm being pragmatic

In an ideal world we keep Wright, sell one of Simms/BTA, loan Bassette. Then recruit a new striker and start the season with the three that leaves us. But that's entirely dependant on making those outs happen.
 

RegTheDonk

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Not having seen Haji yet, can only hope he's resting so he's fully recovered and can show some passion from the off, as he has some quality. Shame BTA can't pass his energy onto Simms, I'd have voted yes if that was the case.
 

SkyBlueBarmy84

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Just for some perspective…

When Hamer left, we spent 12 months arguing that the midfield was the weak link. If only that was sorted, we would be challenging. Today, we all feel we have a wealth of riches in midfield (relatively speaking)…

Then we decided it was our defence that was the main issue, and if we only had a decent left back - in particular - it would all be fine. Then Bidwell had a little run of form, and JDS came good at the end of the season for a few games, and we signed Brau / KKH.

We then spent the last 3 months saying the lack of a decent goalkeeper - in Dovin’s absence - was the main reason we wouldn’t be promoted this season. We now have Rushworth. Sorted.

So, now I guess it’s the forward line’s turn…

There is no denying that Simms has been out of form for an entire season, and Wright was abysmal during the playoffs (injured perhaps?) - but we all know that, on their day, they can be very good/effective (anyone remember the game against Wolves in the FA Cup QF?)

They might hit form at the start of the season. Or they might not. Either way, when you consider the squad improvements over the last few years, we have systematically improved the weaker areas of the squad…

I imagine we’re actively looking at other options up-front, but - if not - I trust that the club is making prudent decisions, within our budget parameters, and the management team is backing our current strikers to ‘come good’ again. Until something changes, then we should continue to back them too.

#PUSB
 

quinn1971

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Just for some perspective…

When Hamer left, we spent 12 months arguing that the midfield was the weak link. If only that was sorted, we would be challenging. Today, we all feel we have a wealth of riches in midfield (relatively speaking)…

Then we decided it was our defence that was the main issue, and if we only had a decent left back - in particular - it would all be fine. Then Bidwell had a little run of form, and JDS came good at the end of the season for a few games, and we signed Brau / KKH.

We then spent the last 3 months saying the lack of a decent goalkeeper - in Dovin’s absence - was the main reason we wouldn’t be promoted this season. We now have Rushworth. Sorted.

So, now I guess it’s the forward line’s turn…

There is no denying that Simms has been out of form for an entire season, and Wright was abysmal during the playoffs (injured perhaps?) - but we all know that, on their day, they can be very good/effective (anyone remember the game against Wolves in the FA Cup QF?)

They might hit form at the start of the season. Or they might not. Either way, when you consider the squad improvements over the last few years, we have systematically improved the weaker areas of the squad…

I imagine we’re actively looking at other options up-front, but - if not - I trust that the club is making prudent decisions, within our budget parameters, and the management team is backing our current strikers to ‘come good’ again. Until something changes, then we should continue to back them too.

#PUSB
problem is we haven’t got forwards that suit our system, start the season with simms or BTA and your Going to get found out the same as last season, we got away with not having one because we scored goals from all over ( finished 4th top scorers ) just can’t see us getting another one in ?
 

WebbCCFC

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Wright - yes despite being a bit of an unknown in Lampard’s system
Simms/BTA - sell or loan one. If sell then reinvest, if loan then maybe look at someone like Jayden Danns
Bassette - loan
 

SkyBlueBarmy84

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problem is we haven’t got forwards that suit our system, start the season with simms or BTA and your Going to get found out the same as last season, we got away with not having one because we scored goals from all over ( finished 4th top scorers ) just can’t see us getting another one in ?
In theory, Simms could suit our play - he has all of the attributes - he just doesn’t seem to deploy them consistently.

We desperately need him to hold the ball up better, and/or occupy defenders more consistently - to allow the midfield/wide players to swarm the defence.

He’s done it in a handful of games - ie Wolves QF* - but never with enough consistency. It’s so frustrating.

*let’s just ignore the open goal from 2 yards. It was offside. Definitely. And he knew it. Good bantz, Ellis.
 

Lamps

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Was a joke based on taking over the Doyle thread talking about strikers…
I'm sorry but as you're a new member I will admit I don't see concealed jokes because of my autism. My gift is numbers and working out information given. Without seeing someone's face I haven't got a clue if someone is taking the piss or being serious.
 

fatso

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Don’t get all this we’re desperate for a striker, if wright stays fit he’ll get the goals we need, 12 in 29 games, he’d of got 20 easily, hopefully he doesn’t miss too many games and stays fit, he’ll be fine
Ideally we'd play Wright on the left, where he's far more of a goal threat than EMC, and have another CF up front.
 

fatso

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EMC got more goals and assists than Haji did at LW last season. Haji’s best position is also upfront.
EMC scored 5 league goals last season, I'd bet that Wright would score more than 5 if played on the left wing.

Although the argument is irrelevant now as FL implied that we arnt looking at strikers in this window.
 

SAJ

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Or is it our style of play? 🤔
Our style of play now certainly doesn’t suit Simms. A good percentage of his goals are when the ball is played just in front of him and he hits it first time like against Man U.
2 seasons ago Simms and Wright scored 38 goals between them which will always get you a reasonable way up the league but even then it took months for Simms to get going whoever ends up as a striker in any team needs for the team to play to their strengths if that stricter is to score loads.
The reason Rudoni scored loads last season is once Lampard arrived we played to his strengths. We either have to find a striker that suits our style or accept they are not going to be prolific but someone else scores.
 

steve101

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I know this is not a popular concensus but I think BTA will do okay for us if he starts regularly and down the middle. I think he just needs to get on a little run to get going.
If he starts v Hull I think he will score 2.
 

baldy

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I know this is not a popular concensus but I think BTA will do okay for us if he starts regularly and down the middle. I think he just needs to get on a little run to get going.
If he starts v Hull I think he will score 2.

What a precise prediction - if that brainless over-excited puppy scores 2 I'll eat my hat
 

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