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Our chances of success this coming season... (1 Viewer)

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Paxman II

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  • Jun 13, 2015
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1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #2
1. Us
2. Not sure, but sheff utd and possibly Millwall.
3. Us
4. Sheff Utd. (Us with some success)
5. There's always an underdog that will be up there, but sheff utd and swindon.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #3
ccfc92 said:
1. Us
2. Not sure, but sheff utd and possibly Millwall.
3. Us
4. Sheff Utd. (Us with some success)
5. There's always an underdog that will be up there, but sheff utd and PNE.
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Preston went up?
 

Bob Latchford

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #4
Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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Whilst Sisu are still owners of CCFC...success will never be achieved under their tenure.
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #5
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Preston went up?
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Sorry :facepalm: Swindon I meant :facepalm:
 

Otis

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #6
ccfc92 said:
Sorry :facepalm: Swindon I meant :facepalm:
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Yeah and when I got married I meant 'I don't' and not 'I do!'
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #7
I fail to see the point of these questions/threads until we know what players are brought in over the summer.

The week before the first game of the season, is when we will have a good idea of our chances.

Similar team to last season + Mowbray = Who knows?
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #8
Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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1. Us, Sheffield United, Scunthorpe, Swindon, Fleetwood, Bradford, you'd probably include the promoted teams in that
2. Wigan, Sheffield United, Millwall, Blackpool, Barnsley, possibly Doncaster, Peterborough,
3. By best facilities do you mean biggest ground? Or do you mean newest ground? Or do you mean grounds that's have a casino and exhibition hall but have nothing to do with the football club?
4. Based on last season's attendances Sheff United, Wigan, Millwall, Blackpool, Bradford, Barnsley, Us.
5. Sheffield United, Wigan, millwall, Peterborough, Doncaster, Barnsley, Swindon, then us trying to breach top 6.

As ccfc says too early to say at the minute, the bookies have us 11th at the minute, as we currently stand that is about right,


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Covstu

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #9
Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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For me it has to be a cocktail of these factors, teams like Sheff Utd and Wigan have the edge (albeit Wigan could drop further)
 

WONDERLAMPS

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #10
stupot07 said:
1. Us, Sheffield United, Scunthorpe, Swindon, Fleetwood, Bradford, you'd probably include the promoted teams in that
2. Wigan, Sheffield United, Millwall, Blackpool, Barnsley, possibly Doncaster, Peterborough,
3. By best facilities do you mean biggest ground? Or do you mean newest ground? Or do you mean grounds that's have a casino and exhibition hall but have nothing to do with the football club?
4. Based on last season's attendances Sheff United, Wigan, Millwall, Blackpool, Bradford, Barnsley, Us.
5. Sheffield United, Wigan, millwall, Peterborough, Doncaster, Barnsley, Swindon, then us trying to breach top 6.

As ccfc says too early to say at the minute, the bookies have us 11th at the minute, as we currently stand that is about right,


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Blackpool?! Are you kidding?
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #11
FRY-CCFC said:
Blackpool?! Are you kidding?
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Tbh, I couldn't remember whether they're still getting parachute payments or not. If they are then they will have one of the biggest turnovers in the league.


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mighty quinn

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #12
Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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All I i know if we don't improve from the utter shambolic dross of last season. We will certainly be relegated.
 

WONDERLAMPS

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  • Jun 13, 2015
  • #13
stupot07 said:
Tbh, I couldn't remember whether they're still getting parachute payments or not. If they are then they will have one of the biggest turnovers in the league.


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Oyston has basically stopped putting money in. Hence why they did so poorly last year. They had 7 players with a week to go before the start of last season.
 

Paxman II

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #14
Blackpool don't have a pot to piss in.
By facilities I'm thinking strictly football. (best stadia?)
The idea of these questions are based on facts we know with no correlation to what team we might field apart from the last question which is an early judgement call.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #15
Last season we lost to 5 teams who finished below us, had we won those games we would have been in the play-offs thats how tight this league is. i am certain we will have a better squad and be better all round than last season so i think we will atleast be knocking on the play-off door.
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Jun 14, 2015
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Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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1. We have the most proven manager, though I like Cooper at Swindon and Adkins has a strong record at this level.

2. I think we will be top 6/7 - however you would think Wigan with parachute payments. I'd agree with another poster that Blackpool should be up there too, for the same reason. Millwall probably up there, sheff utd as well. Talk of investment going into Bradford so could be one to watch.

3. Hard to say but we must be up there, along with any club who have recently been in the PL or champ.

4. Bradford have sold loads of season tickets due to the slashed prices. I'd like to think with a bit of success we can be up there. Probably sheff utd though

5. I honestly think we will, and that's based on blind faith in Mowbray. Other than us, sheff Utd and Millwall. I fancy Wigan to struggle along with Blackpool. I'd expect Peterborough, Bradford and Swindon to be up there again
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #17
Not sure how anyone can assume anything yet ? We have what should be a decent manager but at the moment he hasn't got any players apart from a bunch of kids. Ask again on 15th July ?!
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #18
Far too early to predict
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #19
Bob Latchford said:
Whilst Sisu are still owners of CCFC...success will never be achieved under their tenure.
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Oh please give it a rest for one day. We are indeed owned by people who dont put our club front and center but seriously what does all this SISU bashing actually achieve before a season where we have our best manager in place since we were a PL club?

Change the record please and I mean that in the politest possible way.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #20
Paxman II said:
1. Which teams have the best managers in place?
2. Which teams have the biggest budgets?
3. Which teams have the best facilities?
4. Which teams can call on the most support?
5. Finally - which teams do you think will be in for a shout at promotion?
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1. Best managers Sheff Utd (adkins) and Us
2. Budget - Millwall and Sheff Utd maybe Bury at the rate there spending
3. facilities - Us and Sheff utd
4. Support - Us, sheff utd and Bradford
5. Bradford, Millwall, Sheff Utd, Barnsley and I hope us
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #21
ccfc1234 said:
Oh please give it a rest for one day. We are indeed owned by people who dont put our club front and center but seriously what does all this SISU bashing actually achieve before a season where we have our best manager in place since we were a PL club?

Change the record please and I mean that in the politest possible way.
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8 years of taking the piss out of fans, I'd say justifies posts like these.

Appointing TM, doesn't automatically mean anything.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #22
ccfc92 said:
8 years of taking the piss out of fans, I'd say justifies posts like these.

Appointing TM, doesn't automatically mean anything.
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They have been bad so as a result you think all topics can hijacked and turned into SISU out threads? I personally would rather talk about the thread rather than all the noise the sisu bashing causes and in turn ruins threads. Have a SISU are rubbish tread if you like but to read about sisu in nearly every thread from the same people i have to wonder why they bother and ifthey think its constructive to a fan base thats fed up as it is.
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #23
ccfc1234 said:
They have been bad so as a result you think all topics can hijacked and turned into SISU out threads? I personally would rather talk about the thread rather than all the noise the sisu bashing causes and in turn ruins threads. Have a SISU are rubbish tread if you like but to read about sisu in nearly every thread from the same people i have to wonder why they bother and ifthey think its constructive to a fan base thats fed up as it is.
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Read the title of the thread. Then read the comment you replied to. Very relevant.

As has been said by many, myself included, on this thread, let's see how we get on over the summer, and see how much TM is backed, before getting over excited.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #24
ccfc92 said:
Read the title of the thread. Then read the comment you replied to. Very relevant.

As has been said by many, myself included, on this thread, let's see how we get on over the summer, and see how much TM is backed, before getting over excited.
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Agree and until then I hope the SISU haters will hold their tongue and not try and depress our fan base more than we are already
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #25
ccfc1234 said:
Agree and until then I hope the SISU haters will hold their tongue and not try and depress our fan base more than we are already
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this.
 
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Macca

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #26
I expect a better season but would be hugely surprised with any better than 12th place. Top 6 and I'll give TM a nosh, teeth out
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 14, 2015
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just gives you an idea of how radical a top 6 finish would be in our non too recent history
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #28
ccfcway said:
just gives you an idea of how radical a top 6 finish would be in our non too recent history
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Out of that, I count 4 top 8 finishes....
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #29
ccfc92 said:
Out of that, I count 4 top 8 finishes....
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4 top 8 finishes in 45 years. We had one about 10 years ago, we are about due a 7th or 8th
 
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ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #30
ccfcway said:
4 top 8 finishes in 45 years. We had one about 10 years ago, we are about due a 7th or 8th
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I'm not being funny, but how we are a bottom half team in this league staggers me.

Maybe ccfc1234 could answer me why?
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #31
ccfc92 said:
I'm not being funny, but how we are a bottom half team in this league staggers me.
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it doesnt matter what league we are in, we seem to be a bottom half team

Imagine if we actually had some success
 

ccfc92

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #32
ccfcway said:
it doesnt matter what league we are in, we seem to be a bottom half team

Imagine if we actually had some success
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All it takes is someone to come in and grab the club by the scruff of the neck and say "We are a winning club"

If TM is that person, then I'm looking forward to the success.....
 

Paxman II

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  • Jun 14, 2015
  • #33
Apart from number 5 thrown in for a bit of added fun, the questions are very relevant. It has nothing to do with what players we yet bring in to the club. Either TM is one of the top managers or he is not? Whether we own our stadium or not it's all about our facilities compared to everyone else. probably the best stadium and very good training facilities too at Ryton compared to everyone else? Budget wise I think we still have one of the 'better' budgets in this league. Support? Well that semi final with Crewe...need we say more? Big city means major support is there if the touch paper is lit.

My own feeling is that TM will galvanise the team into a winning formula consistently, much as he did in the brief time he had at the end of last season. Just on manager reputation alone I think top 6 is certainly doable regardless of the fact he has not yet added to his squad.
I hope we keep the negativity supressed for once, forget SISU for now and accept we have a new season with a known entity in control and not some wannabe from lower leagues or Scotland, or even a scout in charge!
Get off to a good start and like someone has already alluded to - a few more wins last season against teams lower than us would have put us top 6, proving this league should be there for the taking.
 

Covstu

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  • Jun 15, 2015
  • #34
Paxman II said:
Apart from number 5 thrown in for a bit of added fun, the questions are very relevant. It has nothing to do with what players we yet bring in to the club. Either TM is one of the top managers or he is not? Whether we own our stadium or not it's all about our facilities compared to everyone else. probably the best stadium and very good training facilities too at Ryton compared to everyone else? Budget wise I think we still have one of the 'better' budgets in this league. Support? Well that semi final with Crewe...need we say more? Big city means major support is there if the touch paper is lit.

My own feeling is that TM will galvanise the team into a winning formula consistently, much as he did in the brief time he had at the end of last season. Just on manager reputation alone I think top 6 is certainly doable regardless of the fact he has not yet added to his squad.
I hope we keep the negativity supressed for once, forget SISU for now and accept we have a new season with a known entity in control and not some wannabe from lower leagues or Scotland, or even a scout in charge!
Get off to a good start and like someone has already alluded to - a few more wins last season against teams lower than us would have put us top 6, proving this league should be there for the taking.
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Any team can win this league from day 1, its not like the premier league where a few names are pretty much nailed on at the start. Every team in the league will be going into the start of the season with promotion in mind. If you have a good team morale and spirit then that goes a long way in achieving this.

I hope we dont replace the whole team and try and just add to key areas, its a 2 year project but we might in the playoffs this year.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 15, 2015
  • #35
We are in our best position for years for this season. It now depends on who is brought in. For many years we have had poor overpaid players for the vast majority of the time. To go with this we have had managers that are not as good as we thought when they came to us, and this is after not being happy with most of them that has come to our club. The playing budget has not been left to the manager alone. We have been run by people that don't have much of a clue about football. And we have been treated as second class citizens by our club. But a lot has changed in the last few months.

We have a manager that changed a relegation bound club to one that could win games with only bringing in 1 player.

He has mainly a blank canvas as lots were out of contract.

He only signed on his terms. This gave him a big say in everything that happens to do with the playing side.

Our manager has good contacts in the game.

Our budget should be bigger than most in this division.

There are many good other reasons also. Like we have some good young players coming through. They will be used as back up and get experience before breaking into the 1st team hopefully.
 
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