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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 18, 2022
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What about Luke Thomas to fill his role of endless running never scoring?
 
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coop

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,402
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What about Luke Thomas to fill his role of endless running never scoring?
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No thankyou
 

larry_david

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,403
So do villa have a sell on?
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,404
better days said:
That's exactly how players talk to each other when one of them gets a big offer Hobo
Especially at our level where almost all of them will have to find another job when they finish playing
What would any of us do in their shoes?
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Its about Kelly and McFadzean not O'Hare. As for O'Hare if he goes and increases his wages that is fair enough. It is a short career.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,405
larry_david said:
So do villa have a sell on?
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No
 

better days

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,406
Hobo said:
Its about Kelly and McFadzean not O'Hare. As for O'Hare if he goes and increases his wages that is fair enough. It is a short career.
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Of course
But not long ago Kelly and Fadz were among our main men
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,407
Hobo said:
Its about Kelly and McFadzean not O'Hare. As for O'Hare if he goes and increases his wages that is fair enough. It is a short career.
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I find this “short career” narrative quite strange

Most people don’t spend their entire working life doing one job. They get promoted, they change industries, they re-train etc etc

Footballers who are lucky with injuries and look after themselves can easily have a 20 yearplaying career now. It’s not unreasonable that during that time they might have to consider what they do after they finish playing.

The short career narrative made more sense when players did well to break into first teams until early 20’s and were considered past it at 31/32. That’s just not the modern way.

It’s a highly privileged 20 years with sufficient downtime to have a plan for life outside if actually playing.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2022
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Deity said:
The short career narrative made more sense when players did well to break into first teams until early 20’s and were considered past it at 31/32. That’s just not the modern way
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Eccles is early 20s of course, and by no means an essential first teamer.

If his injuries are over him he'll do... alright. If not, he's down to non league before he knows it - that's a short career.

And if the offer comes in and you know you're a Jodi Jones away from losing your profile, you go. As potentially that three year deal is the only chance you'll ever get.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,409
Deity said:
I find this “short career” narrative quite strange

Most people don’t spend their entire working life doing one job. They get promoted, they change industries, they re-train etc etc
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most people have transferable skills from there jobs they start out in whereas with football it’s pretty specific.

The point is you’ve got about 15 years on average to make your money unless you want to get a 9-5 afterwards. That’s if you don’t get a career ending injury.

I’d take tripling my wage and being set for life than staying with one club and then having to train as a financial advisor because deity on SBT says it’s possible
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,410
larry_david said:
So do villa have a sell on?
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30% apparently
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,411
SlowerThanPlatt said:
As eloquent as ever Robbie
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Mate, at 68 I’m long past the giving a fuck stage. Sometimes the truth just has to be said.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,412
Greggs said:
30% apparently
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No they don’t. He left Villa once his contract expired and joined us on a free.
 
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larry_david

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,413
Greggs said:
30% apparently
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When greggs quotes you, you know you've asked a stupid question
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,414
AFCCOVENTRY said:
No they don’t. He left Villa once his contract expired and joined us on a free.
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Not what I've been told. A deal his agent sorted out apparently. Was something to do with Villa not triggering his extension and a deal sorted between the 2 clubs for a hefty % of any future sale. Between 30-35%
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,415
Greggs said:
Not what I've been told. A deal his agent sorted out apparently. Was something to to with Villa not triggering his extension and a deal sorted between the 2 clubs for a hefty % of any future sale. Between 30-35%
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You are still a bad man and will definitely go to Hell. It’s bad enough reading some of the crap on here without you confusing things more hahaha
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,416
Greggs said:
Not what I've been told. A deal his agent sorted out apparently. Was something to do with Villa not triggering his extension and a deal sorted between the 2 clubs for a hefty % of any future sale. Between 30-35%
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I heard it was closer to 45% plus a 10% fee for any other player we sell over £5mil

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Hobo

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,417
Deity said:
I find this “short career” narrative quite strange

Most people don’t spend their entire working life doing one job. They get promoted, they change industries, they re-train etc etc

Footballers who are lucky with injuries and look after themselves can easily have a 20 yearplaying career now. It’s not unreasonable that during that time they might have to consider what they do after they finish playing.

The short career narrative made more sense when players did well to break into first teams until early 20’s and were considered past it at 31/32. That’s just not the modern way.

It’s a highly privileged 20 years with sufficient downtime to have a plan for life outside if actually playing.
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Of course there is life after a football career. But few offer the earning potential of a top flight footballer and that window of opportunity can be very small.
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,418
SkyBlueMatt said:
I heard it was closer to 45% plus a 10% fee for any other player we sell over £5mil

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It'll be his pesky agent getting involved again. I reckon we should have enough of the fee left to get a decent u23 loan player and to finish the pitches at ryton.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,419
Hobo said:
Of course there is life after a football career. But few offer the earning potential of a top flight footballer and that window of opportunity can be very small.
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Yes, but as I've said in another thread, it's highly unlikely that any footballer, even playing in lower leagues, goes from earning £ks or high £hundreds a week drops to National Minimum wage immediately their career ends and then scrimps and scrapes through the remainder of their working life.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,420
Will be gutted to see him go, he's been a complete pro and a great player for us. Replacing his dynamism and energy will be almost impossible, but I am sure Robins knows that and will change the way we play. He'll get a good reception from me at either game, that said, I don't think our fans will show quite the same sympathy to him getting 'kicked about the park' when he's not wearing Sky Blue.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,421
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Will be gutted to see him go, he's been a complete pro and a great player for us. Replacing his dynamism and energy will be almost impossible, but I am sure Robins knows that and will change the way we play. He'll get a good reception from me at either game, that said, I don't think our fans will show quite the same sympathy to him getting 'kicked about the park' when he's not wearing Sky Blue.
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Knowing our luck he’ll score both of his annual allocation in one game
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,422
I'll say it now. It anyone claps him when he plays for Burnley our place, I will throat punch them.
Remember someone clapping Andy Morrell when he scored against us, throat punched them too.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,423
Greggs said:
I'll say it now. It anyone claps him when he plays for Burnley our place, I will throat punch them.
Remember someone clapping Andy Morrell when he scored against us, throat punched them too.
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I clapped McSheffrey when he scored against us for Scunthorpe(?). Would prefer a sculpted ice unicorn shoved up my arse though.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,424
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep believer didn’t say an amount did he and just said none would be invested in fees. Is that right?
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Basically, due to the last couple of seasons losses, which is understandable.
I guess if the fee is high enough some will be reinvested and even if it’s just the wages a portion of them could be used towards a fee to get a player on lower wages than COH is on.

I don’t get all the panic and tantrums tbh. We know SISU are not just going to pour millions into the club. We know some money is going to be pulled out of the club to pay their investors back. We are where we are. People should adjust expectations accordingly or prepare for years of frustration. We are not going to progress every season like the last few.
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,425
Tommo1993 said:
I clapped McSheffrey when he scored against us for Scunthorpe(?). Would prefer a sculpted ice unicorn shoved up my arse though.
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Both disgusting
 
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djr8369

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,426
Liquid Gold said:
Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, Leicester, Brentford, Norwich, Fulham, Leeds, Forest, Wolves?
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How many of those return money to the people who invested and how many are just money pits?

And how many other clubs in the championship and L1 have had millions poured into them and not gone up?
 

Offhegoes

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,427
So apart from various twitter rumours, nothing official yet. Certainly no bid had been accepted on Saturday afternoon as he wouldn't of played. So I take it Burnley still haven't met our valuation, or payment terms. So the rumours are that basically they expect Burnley to come back again.
He's not gone yet
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,428
Briles said:
A lot of our fans seem to think competent owners just pay money into clubs willy nilly as a "gamble" to the promise land. We've seen what happens to teams who do that.
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So tired of this meme.

Expecting the best manager we’ve had to have the same level of support he has last two seasons and the wherewithal to replace those he has to sell isn’t asking for millions to be spunked, it’s asking for the club not to go backwards and to have a sustainable income stream at this level.

Not one single poster in on here saying we should drop £5m on a player, at most they’re saying we should use some of the profit from sales to bring in young players with potential because if we don’t we’ll quickly find ourselves with no one to sell and selling players is how our club breaks even.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,429
Offhegoes said:
So apart from various twitter rumours, nothing official yet. Certainly no bid had been accepted on Saturday afternoon as he wouldn't of played. So I take it Burnley still haven't met our valuation, or payment terms. So the rumours are that basically they expect Burnley to come back again.
He's not gone yet
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Username doesn’t check out
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,430
shmmeee said:
Username doesn’t check out
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LOL - Need to change that!
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,431
djr8369 said:
How many of those return money to the people who invested and how many are just money pits?

And how many other clubs in the championship and L1 have had millions poured into them and not gone up?
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If you want to make money then football ownership isn't for you.

I apologise for wanting owners that give a shit about the success of the club and not their own bank balance. I'll remember that isn't important in future.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,432
robbiekeane said:
most people have transferable skills from there jobs they start out in whereas with football it’s pretty specific.

The point is you’ve got about 15 years on average to make your money unless you want to get a 9-5 afterwards. That’s if you don’t get a career ending injury.

I’d take tripling my wage and being set for life than staying with one club and then having to train as a financial advisor because deity on SBT says it’s possible
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So would I . But that wasn’t my point.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,433
football league world reporting the fee is just under 9m
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,434
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
football league world reporting the fee is just under 9m
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Are they at all reliable?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #1,435
shmmeee said:
Are they at all reliable?
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No idea, it’s just the first source to come out with a figure.

Coventry preparing to lose Burnley target as cost of deal revealed

Coventry City are preparing to lose playmaker Callum O'Hare with Burnley closing in on a deal worth just less than £9 million for him, TEAMtalk has revealed.
footballleagueworld.co.uk
 
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