Oh Jeremy Corbyn (7 Viewers)

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
What BS have I made up exactly? You do know that the MP who falsely accused Corbyn of selling secrets had to make a full retraction, publicly apologised and made a substantial donation to a charity of Corbyns choice? You clearly don’t which probably explains your clueless rant. You do know that the spy in question was here on diplomatic papers so had access to Westminster and therefore met multiple MP’s from all parties who funnily enough aren’t being singled out and publicly named? You clearly don’t which probably explains your clueless rant. You do know that the alleged secret was in fact a photo copy of an article that had appeared in a British tabloid? You clearly don’t which probably explains your clueless rant?

Go away and educate yourself on some of the things that have been going on over the last few weeks, while you’re at educate yourself on the things you’ve missed by allowing yourself to be come preoccupied with the bullshit around Corbyn that’s distracted you as designed to. Then like I said earlier when the penny has dropped come back to me and we’ll have an adult conversation about it.

Grown up conversation with you? :smuggrin:

All you are interested in is point scoring. One person makes a comment so you make out that it happens all the time.

Bullshit about Corbyn? Do you mean all the things you constantly defend him of?

Look back and you will see that I say about the skeletons in the closet. Or shall we go back to the Jewish thing from a few days ago? He chose a left wing unit which goes against what most Jews agree with. Not like Jeremy to go to an extreme is it.....

Or are you still saying that he is perfect and it is everyone else making him look dodgy?

martcov · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Have you considered that we know the truth but can't use it as evidence as it has come from another spy?

It is said that half of those expelled from other countries are known spies. The situation is and always has been complex.

Yes, of course I have. Putin will have also, which is why he demands an inquiry.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
Ha ha ha. Says it all.

So what does it say?

Lord Sugar has put a lot of money into the Labour party. But it has stopped because of what has been going on. He didn't mention it before the election as he didn't want it to cause any harm to Labours chances.

Sugar is a Jew. He knows what he is talking about. But of course you will know much more than him.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

martcov said:
Yes, of course I have. Putin will have also, which is why he demands an inquiry.

So he can find out who the spy is?

martcov · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
So he can find out who the spy is?

Either we give our sources or methods up, or we admit that we cannot prove anything.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Grown up conversation with you? :smuggrin:

All you are interested in is point scoring. One person makes a comment so you make out that it happens all the time.

Bullshit about Corbyn? Do you mean all the things you constantly defend him of?

Look back and you will see that I say about the skeletons in the closet. Or shall we go back to the Jewish thing from a few days ago? He chose a left wing unit which goes against what most Jews agree with. Not like Jeremy to go to an extreme is it.....

Or are you still saying that he is perfect and it is everyone else making him look dodgy?

No one is perfect. Especially true of MP’s. However Corbyn has not handed over secrets to spies and only Corbyn attending a Jewish ceremony could be portrayed as anti Semitic. Most Jews don’t agree with them by the way, just the ones with the loudest voices like Sugar. Go and educate yourself on the difference between anti Zionist and anti Semitic. The anti Semitic card gets played far too often in place of anti Zionist.

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

martcov said:
No, but I think that a dark clandestine organisation is behind Salisbury. Most probably to do with Russia with Putin‘s knowledge. I also think we seem to be having difficulties in proving it. I hope we have something to put on the table in answer to Russia‘s demands, otherwise this could be embarrassing.

We don’t have to put anything to Russia - we have the belief of all western intelligence agencies - we owe them nothing.

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

martcov said:
Either we give our sources or methods up, or we admit that we cannot prove anything.

Give out mr source up? Are you serious?

Jesus Christ you really are mad aren’t you? Hey Mr Putin we know as we have this informant he used to work in the KGB he’s been operating undercover for western alliances for years - that’s why they were under surveillance - his address sure Vlad here it is mate

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
No one is perfect. Especially true of MP’s. However Corbyn has not handed over secrets to spies and only Corbyn attending a Jewish ceremony could be portrayed as anti Semitic. Most Jews don’t agree with them by the way, just the ones with the loudest voices like Sugar. Go and educate yourself on the difference between anti Zionist and anti Semitic. The anti Semitic card gets played far too often in place of anti Zionist.

Me educate myself?

Maybe if you looked further than the end of your nose you would see the truth.

Jewdas: political activists who make fun of establishment Judaism

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Corbyn Meets Far-Left Group Who Called For Destruction of Israel and Attacked Critics as "Non-Jews" - Guido Fawkes

Go educate yourself. There is enough here to start with.

I don't see Corbyn as racist. I have never said he is. But he is very good at doing the wrong thing. It was good that he met up with Jewish people. But Jewdas?

Do you know what they stand for? And have you said out loud what their name is.......

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
Give out mr source up? Are you serious?

Jesus Christ you really are mad aren’t you? Hey Mr Putin we know as we have this informant he used to work in the KGB he’s been operating undercover for western alliances for years - that’s why they were under surveillance - his address sure Vlad here it is mate

I suppose he is all for the Russians having a private chat with the daughter who has made a surprising recovery from the poisoning.......

Sick Boy · Apr 4, 2018

A Labour voter using Guido Fawkes? Seriously?

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Millions won't vote for Corbyn as they don't trust his past. So how can policies be more important than the man?

To me the policy matters more which is why I wouldn't mind him being replaced if it meant someone else put through the same ideas.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Me educate myself?

Maybe if you looked further than the end of your nose you would see the truth.

Jewdas: political activists who make fun of establishment Judaism

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Corbyn Meets Far-Left Group Who Called For Destruction of Israel and Attacked Critics as "Non-Jews" - Guido Fawkes

Go educate yourself. There is enough here to start with.

I don't see Corbyn as racist. I have never said he is. But he is very good at doing the wrong thing. It was good that he met up with Jewish people. But Jewdas?

Do you know what they stand for? And have you said out loud what their name is.......

I said educate not read some one sided misrepresented articles in newspapers.

Here’s some pointers. Go and learn the difference between Ultra orthodox, orthodox and so called Liberal Jews. Go and learn about Zionism. Go and learn about the creation of the state of Israel. If you do all that you’ll learn A) a lot of things that don’t get printed in the British press and B) the difference between anti Semitic and anti Zionist.

martcov · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
Give out mr source up? Are you serious?

Jesus Christ you really are mad aren’t you? Hey Mr Putin we know as we have this informant he used to work in the KGB he’s been operating undercover for western alliances for years - that’s why they were under surveillance - his address sure Vlad here it is mate

I said that is the situation we are in. I didn’t say give up our source, but the demands for an inquiry put us in a sticky position.

You are the one who invented that.

chiefdave · Apr 4, 2018

Sick Boy said:
A Labour voter using Guido Fawkes? Seriously?

BBC News were using them last night. Another sign of how far journalism has fallen.

martcov · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
I suppose he is all for the Russians having a private chat with the daughter who has made a surprising recovery from the poisoning.......

More crap. You and Grendel are claiming that I said give up our sources. Which, of course, I didn’t. Maybe you should work for the Express? You’d fit in great.

chiefdave · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Jeremy Corbyn attends event hosted by far-Left Jewish group | Daily Mail Online

Sums it up really, you've got the Daily Mail and Tim Sculthorpe playing the anti-Semitism card for someone attending an event by a Jewish group!

Or to put it another way a non Jewish person is stating Corbyn is anti-Semitic (defined as hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews) and using as evidence Corbyn attending a Passover celebration held by a group of Jews.

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

martcov said:
More crap. You and Grendel are claiming that I said give up our sources. Which, of course, I didn’t. Maybe you should work for the Express? You’d fit in great.

You didn’t say “give up our sources”

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

chiefdave said:
Sums it up really, you've got the Daily Mail and Tim Sculthorpe playing the anti-Semitism card for someone attending an event by a Jewish group!

Or to put it another way a non Jewish person is stating Corbyn is anti-Semitic (defined as hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews) and using as evidence Corbyn attending a Passover celebration held by a group of Jews.

The established Jewish community and its main paper are hugely critical of this attendance. It’s inappropriate and typical Corbyn.

Sick Boy · Apr 4, 2018

chiefdave said:
BBC News were using them last night. Another sign of how far journalism has fallen.

And some try and claim there hasn't been a large shift to the right as well.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
The established Jewish community and its main paper are hugely critical of this attendance. It’s inappropriate and typical Corbyn.

That’s because they’re anti Zionist, as are a lot of the Jewish community. The so called “established” community isn’t. Doesn’t mean they’re right when they label people like Corbyn and non Jews with opinions in line with anti Zionist Jews anti Semitic.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

Sick Boy said:
A Labour voter using Guido Fawkes? Seriously?

Do you use the Daily Mail?

Google search and first few on list. But yeah give me a list of aites not to use that you can when it backs up your case.

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
That’s because they’re anti Zionist, as are a lot of the Jewish community. The so called “established” community isn’t. Doesn’t mean they’re right when they label people like Corbyn and non Jews with opinions in line with anti Zionist Jews anti Semitic.

That’s interesting Tony so how many are against having a homeland in Israel there was a survey done recently - what percentage was it?

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
I said educate not read some one sided misrepresented articles in newspapers.

Here’s some pointers. Go and learn the difference between Ultra orthodox, orthodox and so called Liberal Jews. Go and learn about Zionism. Go and learn about the creation of the state of Israel. If you do all that you’ll learn A) a lot of things that don’t get printed in the British press and B) the difference between anti Semitic and anti Zionist.

So are you saying that Jewdas is the perfect platform for Jewish people and not against the thoughts of most Jews? Because as you know that is my point and not what you are insinuating

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

chiefdave said:
BBC News were using them last night. Another sign of how far journalism has fallen.

And yet still no reply to yesterdays question on a subject you brought up.

Hey ho hope it is forgotten about.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

chiefdave said:
Sums it up really, you've got the Daily Mail and Tim Sculthorpe playing the anti-Semitism card for someone attending an event by a Jewish group!

Or to put it another way a non Jewish person is stating Corbyn is anti-Semitic (defined as hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews) and using as evidence Corbyn attending a Passover celebration held by a group of Jews.

So what you do is miss the points being made and pick one small part out.

Then you deny that you are only here to defend Corbyn.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
That’s interesting Tony so how many are against having a homeland in Israel there was a survey done recently - what percentage was it?

You tell me. You clearly think you know.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
That’s interesting Tony so how many are against having a homeland in Israel there was a survey done recently - what percentage was it?

LA LA LA LA

He doesn't want to know about the truth.

Grendel · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
LA LA LA LA

He doesn't want to know about the truth.

The disturbing thing is Zionist is considered a throwaway remark that justifies racism

What’s even more disturbing is the likes of Mr Corbyn and his supporters (seems UKIP Tony is a convert to the cause) are happy to criticise human rights in Israel but less so in China, Venuzeala, North Korea and Russia

I cannot think why.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
You tell me. You clearly think you know.

OK Tony.

Why was it good that Corbyn chose an extreme left wing section to meet with that most Jews don't agree with?

Why didn't he choose a more orthodox section?

Does the name JEWDAS mean anything to you?

Is it good that they are anti monarchy?

JEWDAS describes itself as a “radical” group that “opposes capitalism” and wants to “overthrow the state" How do you defend that?

Don't you see a common link?

Of course you don't.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
So are you saying that Jewdas is the perfect platform for Jewish people and not against the thoughts of most Jews? Because as you know that is my point and not what you are insinuating

Most Jews? What does that even mean? Quantify it into something meaningful.

The vocal Jews protesting against Corbyn are a certain type of Jew. They’re not ultra orthodox, some may be orthodox but the majority are liberal Jews. Liberal Jews are Zionist and will lash out at anyone with non Zionist views and label those who are non Jews as anti Semitic. It’s an abuse of the term. Jewdas is a far left Jewish group with non Zionist views mainly made up of young Jews whose only weapon is humour. Yet you’re buying all the they’re the bad guys nonsense and using Corbyns meeting them in an argument that Corbyn is some how anti Semitic.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

Grendel said:
The disturbing thing is Zionist is considered a throwaway remark that justifies racism

What’s even more disturbing is the likes of Mr Corbyn and his supporters (seems UKIP Tony is a convert to the cause) are happy to criticise human rights in Israel but less so in China, Venuzeala, North Korea and Russia

I cannot think why.

Human rights are important until it is something to do with someone who needs defending. Then it is something to be ignored.

Astute · Apr 4, 2018

skybluetony176 said:
Most Jews? What does that even mean? Quantify it into something meaningful.

The vocal Jews protesting against Corbyn are a certain type of Jew. They’re not ultra orthodox, some may be orthodox but the majority are liberal Jews. Liberal Jews are Zionist and will lash out at anyone with non Zionist views and label those who are non Jews as anti Semitic. It’s an abuse of the term. Jewdas is a far left Jewish group with non Zionist views mainly made up of young Jews whose only weapon is humour. Yet you’re buying all the they’re the bad guys nonsense and using Corbyns meeting them in an argument that Corbyn is some how anti Semitic.

Humour?

So what is funny about what they preach?

And you are still chatting shit about what I have said. I said that it is good that he met up with Jews. But why did he choose the far left Jewdas? Why not mainstream?

He is either clueless or doesn't care what he does.

Sick Boy · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
Do you use the Daily Mail?

Google search and first few on list. But yeah give me a list of aites not to use that you can when it backs up your case.

If you want to use the likes of GF and Breitbart then that's your choice I guess.

skybluetony176 · Apr 4, 2018

Astute said:
LA LA LA LA

He doesn't want to know about the truth.

That’s funny. I bet you hadn’t even realised that there’s different factions of the Jewish faith until I pointed it out to you. I’ve told you what they are and suggested that you educate yourself on them. You’re still using terms like “Most Jews” with absolutely no idea of how the Jewish faith is made up and what their varying views are despite me telling you what the different factions are and inviting you to go and educate yourself on them. La la la indeed.

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