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The Reverend Skyblue · Mar 18, 2018

Can't believe this is still going, I took my bow yesterday.
Just a side note I like reading Peter Hitchens makes a lot of sense to me, the others in the paper I don't read much.
Some find it hard accepting other peoples opinion on politics, it's just a waste of time really.

wingy · Mar 18, 2018

The Reverend Skyblue said:
Can't believe this is still going, I took my bow yesterday.
Just a side note I like reading Peter Hitchens makes a lot of sense to me, the others in the paper I don't read much.
Some find it hard accepting other peoples opinion on politics, it's just a waste of time really.

We are our own prejudices wherever they come from.
Seems that's the likes of Cambridge Analytica these days I agree Rev.
We are all conditioned from birth by our Environment.

martcov · Mar 18, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
Can you please spend 5 minutes not talking about Brexit.

It was West Country that turned the subject to migrants and UKIP. We were talking about Corbyn until then.

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
PETER HITCHENS: The 'patriotic' thought police came for Corbyn. You are next - Mail Online - Peter Hitchens blog

I nearly posted this earlier. But then I remembered that most who defend Corbyn and are desperate to stay in the EU have a paddy fit if anyone links anything from the Daily Mail as they are biased.

wingy · Mar 18, 2018

Astute said:
I nearly posted this earlier. But then I remembered that most who defend Corbyn and are desperate to stay in the EU have a paddy fit if anyone links anything from the Daily Mail as they are biased.

The thing is he's not alone.
Plenty of us have recognised the media agenda, seems there are plenty of Journos even from the opposite press agree.

clint van damme · Mar 18, 2018

Astute said:
I nearly posted this earlier. But then I remembered that most who defend Corbyn and are desperate to stay in the EU have a paddy fit if anyone links anything from the Daily Mail as they are biased.

I could link plenty of articles saying the same thing but though one from the mail might have more resonance for certain posters.
I'm surprised by where some of the backlash against Corbyns treatment is coming from. Quite a bit from people who don't like him or his policies but I think people are getting sick of the agenda driven bullshit and want the media to just report the facts and let them make their own mind up.

Sick Boy · Mar 18, 2018

The Reverend Skyblue said:
Can't believe this is still going, I took my bow yesterday.
Just a side note I like reading Peter Hitchens makes a lot of sense to me, the others in the paper I don't read much.
Some find it hard accepting other peoples opinion on politics, it's just a waste of time really.

I think it's a good thing that we can mostly debate as adults and I think politics will always mean that we are going to challenge each others' opinions. While I disagree with the politics of some on here, I'd happily buy them a beer as despite the fact that they are wrong they are good people.

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

Sick Boy said:
I think it's a good thing that we can mostly debate as adults and I think politics will always mean that we are going to challenge each others' opinions. While I disagree with the politics of some on here, I'd happily buy them a beer as despite the fact that they are wrong they are good people.

I am happy to debate with anyone on any matter as ling as they don't contradict themselves or start name calling.

One that happens is saying certain news outlets shouldn't be used or believed. But as soon as one of them outlets says what they want them to they quote it. As in you can't use it but I can. And how can they find an article in something they don't read?

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
I could link plenty of articles saying the same thing but though one from the mail might have more resonance for certain posters.
I'm surprised by where some of the backlash against Corbyns treatment is coming from. Quite a bit from people who don't like him or his policies but I think people are getting sick of the agenda driven bullshit and want the media to just report the facts and let them make their own mind up.

Yes some people would love the papers to forget Corbyns past.

clint van damme · Mar 18, 2018

Astute said:
Yes some people would love the papers to forget Corbyns past.

Plenty of right wingers defending him. And if Corbyns past needs a light shining on it then what is the need to make shit up?

Grendel · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
Plenty of right wingers defending him. And if Corbyns past needs a light shining on it then what is the need to make shit up?

Peter Hitchens isn’t - contrary to the ignorant view - a right winger.

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
Plenty of right wingers defending him. And if Corbyns past needs a light shining on it then what is the need to make shit up?

So what shit has been made up?

clint van damme · Mar 18, 2018

Grendel said:
Peter Hitchens isn’t - contrary to the ignorant view - a right winger.

no, but plenty of right wingers have defended Corbyn.
Hitchen holds right wing opinions on several issues but is fairly left wing on others.

clint van damme · Mar 18, 2018

Astute said:
So what shit has been made up?

the Czech spy story.
The BBC photo shopped studio back drop which seemed to have got a lot of peoples backs up.

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
the Czech spy story.
The BBC photo shopped studio back drop which seemed to have got a lot of peoples backs up.

The Czec spy story is true. Corbyn didn't know he was a spy. It is all old news.

Yes the BBC put a picture of Corbyn on a background to make him look like a Russian bitch. It was the wrong thing to do from an organisation that is supposed to be unbiased. But far worse bullshit has gone on. I have had enough of the bullshit from all sides.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2018

clint van damme said:
the Czech spy story.
The BBC photo shopped studio back drop which seemed to have got a lot of peoples backs up.

Mr Corbyn sitting on the floor on a train? They was made up wasn’t it?

I’m sure Mr Corbyn was approached by the Czech secret service by the way.

wingy · Mar 18, 2018

Grendel said:
Mr Corbyn sitting on the floor on a train? They was made up wasn’t it?

I’m sure Mr Corbyn was approached by the Czech secret service by the way.

You're not sure at all, just like the Tory MP who had to take his tweet down .

westcountry_skyblue · Mar 18, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
"I like Trump"

Hes better than the crooked Clintons!!

Astute · Mar 18, 2018

wingy said:
You're not sure at all, just like the Tory MP who had to take his tweet down .

Jeremy Corbyn reveals what he spoke to Czech spy about | Daily Mail Online

As I said nothing to do.with him being a paid spy. But certainly was.in contact.

westcountry_skyblue · Mar 18, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
To those arguing against Corbyn because of allegations related to his past with the IRA. Would you vote for him if these allegations didn't exist? If the answer is no then it looks as though the issue is constantly bought up because of an inability to attack him on policies compared with the shambles in power at the moment.

Your obviously not old enough to remember their atrocities in the 70's and 80's

Sick Boy said:
Which EU migrants get everything handed to them on a plate?

Grendel · Mar 18, 2018

wingy said:
You're not sure at all, just like the Tory MP who had to take his tweet down .

Well as Clint quoted Peter Hitchens I’m pretty sure he was as Mr Hitchens wrote in detail the other week how in the 80’s he was approached.

Sick Boy · Mar 18, 2018

How can anyone genuinely think that refugees from Syria are EU migrants- ha ha ha!!

The Reverend Skyblue · Mar 18, 2018

Sick Boy said:
I think it's a good thing that we can mostly debate as adults and I think politics will always mean that we are going to challenge each others' opinions. While I disagree with the politics of some on here, I'd happily buy them a beer as despite the fact that they are wrong they are good people.

Yes I agree mostly with that. Still got called a moron, told to grow up and also I must have a chip on my shoulder, just for expressing my opinion.
When people say Corbyn did this and did that way back yonder, I need proof and not just hearsay. What's said in an unminuted meeting is just that.
Anyway hate politics and the shitfest that surrounds it. I vote for the parties closest to my own views and have in the past voted for all the three main parties. At the moment the conservatives lie theclosest to how I feel .
I'm what is called a floating voter, but have for the last three elections voted blue

shmmeee · Mar 19, 2018

Astute said:
I nearly posted this earlier. But then I remembered that most who defend Corbyn and are desperate to stay in the EU have a paddy fit if anyone links anything from the Daily Mail as they are biased.

*sigh*

Again, the DM and the MoS have different editors and a different editorial slant. Will people stop using the MoS as proof the DM isn’t a shit rag?

It’d be like posting a Times article to prove the Sun isn’t garbage.

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 19, 2018

This thread has all gone a bit David Icke.

Astute · Mar 19, 2018

Deleted member 5849 said:
This thread has all gone a bit David Icke.

Thought it had from the start.

Astute · Mar 19, 2018

shmmeee said:
*sigh*

Again, the DM and the MoS have different editors and a different editorial slant. Will people stop using the MoS as proof the DM isn’t a shit rag?

It’d be like posting a Times article to prove the Sun isn’t garbage.

Exactly.

Look back at who has been saying so.

fernandopartridge · Mar 19, 2018

shmmeee said:
*sigh*

Again, the DM and the MoS have different editors and a different editorial slant. Will people stop using the MoS as proof the DM isn’t a shit rag?

It’d be like posting a Times article to prove the Sun isn’t garbage.

They're both owned by non domiciled (for tax avoidance purposes) Lord Rothermere who the editors of both the DM and MoS seek to appease with their editorial line. Unsurprisingly, that means that Corbyn with his awful ideas about progressive taxation is not popular with either title.

(Think we're making the same point actually)

olderskyblue · Mar 19, 2018

I'm guessing this piece from the mail on Sunday won't go down quite as well though...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-anit-Semetic-pals-smashed-moral-compass.html

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 19, 2018

olderskyblue said:
I'm guessing this piece from the mail on Sunday won't go down quite as well though...

DAN HODGES: Corbyn and anit-Semetic pals smashed moral compass | Daily Mail Online

You're right, it won't

In all seriousness I'd like to read the source report, and the background to it...

Astute · Mar 19, 2018

olderskyblue said:
I'm guessing this piece from the mail on Sunday won't go down quite as well though...

DAN HODGES: Corbyn and anit-Semetic pals smashed moral compass | Daily Mail Online

Remember that Corbyn has never done anything wrong and would never do anything wrong. And also anything from the Mail is a lie unless it backs Corbyn up.

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 19, 2018

Astute said:
Remember that Corbyn has never done anything wrong and would never do anything wrong. And also anything from the Mail is a lie unless it backs Corbyn up.

/sighs

torchomatic · Mar 19, 2018

I wonder if this was photoshopped too?

Makes me laugh all those having a go at Corbyn seem to ignore stuff like 160K being paid to the Tories by an oligarch's wife to play tennis with him. Imagine if Corbyn had done that....

Astute · Mar 19, 2018

torchomatic said:
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I wonder if this was photoshopped too?

Makes me laugh all those having a go at Corbyn seem to ignore stuff like 160K being paid to the Tories by an oligarch's wife to play tennis with him. Imagine if Corbyn had done that....

The difference is that Corbyn is one step away from being the PM. And I don't trust any of them even when they don't have a dodgy past like Corbyn.

skybluetony176 · Mar 19, 2018

Astute said:
The difference is that Corbyn is one step away from being the PM. And I don't trust any of them even when they don't have a dodgy past like Corbyn.

They all have a past. You at least have the luxury of knowing Corbyns.

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