Actually, if you make a claim, it is up to you to justify it, not others to prove that it is not true.
A few facts for you,
I don't read any tabloids
I was educated and achieved a very good degree from a Russell group university and now teach A level philosophy.
I was not interested in the Czech spy allegation at all. Insufficient evidence IMO
We don't need to fabricate anything against Corbyn. He is on record over the decades taking unprincipled and unpatriotic positions. I judge him on these facts, not allegations.
I have no problem about him being cautious and saying, If, if, if, but he should then suggest he will support certain measures against Russia under conditions. He should not be muddying the waters with anti-western tropes.
If he has counter evidence he should present it. If he has reservations he should attach conditions which, if met, will lead him to condemn Russia.
You said Germany don’t Mart - is that right or wrong?
The notion ISiS and it’s rise has anything to do with Britain’s economic relationship with the Saudi regime is the absurdity. Grow up I thought you taught in schools and did not play a bit part in a sixth form debating society.
People who are wealthy and trade with the U.K. have and in many cases continue to fund ISIS. Wealthy people from Saudi, Qatar and Kuwait were almost exclusively ISIS sole funders in the early days and it was done so with the leaders of these countries blessing so long as ISIS were fighting Assad in Syria they didn’t care what else they were doing. These are all people we do business with either as governments or private businesses.The notion ISiS and it’s rise has anything to do with Britain’s economic relationship with the Saudi regime is the absurdity. Grow up I thought you taught in schools and did not play a bit part in a sixth form debating society.
I agree, but such information is not going to be discussed in public is it?Actually, if you make a claim, it is up to you to justify it, not others to prove that it is not true.
Didn’t they turn Saudi down? Which is why they came to May. They are also not selling tank spares toTurkey for their German tanks.
They have been selling ships... ( amongst other things ) maybe they didn’t have what Saudi needs to bomb people or didn’t want to sell them? Don’t know.
We know with some certainty that weapons we have sold to 'allies' in the region have ended up in IS' hands, either through capture or smuggling. We also know that the Saudi coalition has fought alongside Al Qaeda in Yemen. Go further back and the decision to pillage Iraq at America's behest unquestionably exacerbated anti-Western sentiment and created the power vacuum needed for an extremist group to take advantage.
In your world of guilt by association Mrs May supports the bombing of schools and hospitals. Why has she not been carted off to The Hague?
Why hasn’t Macron, Merkel and whoever forms the failed governments of Italy and Spain? All are increasing sales to saudi. Are you saying the whole of the EU should be dragged to The Hague?
Seriously you sound very silly.
Why haven’t you read my link which exposes either your ignorance or outright lies on this subject?
Why hasn’t Macron, Merkel and whoever forms the failed governments of Italy and Spain? All are increasing sales to saudi. Are you saying the whole of the EU should be dragged to The Hague?
Seriously you sound very silly.
I did read your link. Did you? It said the latest German exports to Saudi were boats and trucks. That is as opposed to planes and bombs etc.. I was quoting from your link.
Did you read my link which had a graph showing who by far sells the most to Saudi?
Out of interest Ian, Brighton, Clint, mart does anyone Not sell arms to the Saudis?
Spain has sold 650 million in weapons in Saudi Arabia since 2015
I hope JC gets really bad press on this issue , it will keep labour out of power
He will get bad press from who you would expect to give it. Luckily their grip on the opinion of the nation becomes ever weaker.I hope JC gets really bad press on this issue , it will keep labour out of power
Am I missing something?
I heard him strongly condemn the act, I also heard him strongly advocate that the perpetrators should be punished. I've seen him not oppose any of the actions taken so far.
His spokesman has, meanwhile, maybe needed firmer language but has still said that it's most likely that Russia is directly or indirectly responsible. Boris Johnson was on the radio this morning saying similar!
I've also heard an option from the Prime Minister that the attack is due to loss of control, rather than direct Russian involvement.
Is the leader of the opposition wrong to ask what cobnversations have been had with Russia and other organisations who can help- to identify where this came from?
Is there actually a story here, other than one blown up by the mindless simplicity of black & white?!?
Personally, I don't think the time was right to ask about donations, but the general philosophy appears to be a condemnation of an attack, and a desire to get the full picture while involving allies. What is missing there?!?
I wonder what people had have said if the police man had died?
The perps could probably be locked up right now If CCTV hadn't been wound down in cost cutting measure.
Well, whatever. The points still stands. The paramedics suffered ill effects from exposure as did members of the public. This could have been so much worse and yet could still prove to be. This is a relatively new nerve agent so who knows what the longer term effects of exposure will be.He wasn't a 'policeman' as such, he was acting as Skripal's personal bodyguard.
Yet strangely as yet (and hopefully never)not an effective Killer (choice of weapon ).Well, whatever. The points still stands. The paramedics suffered ill effects from exposure as did members of the public. This could have been so much worse and yet could still prove to be. This is a relatively new nerve agent so who knows what the longer term effects of exposure will be.
why?
Maybe he's waiting to see the evidence before jumping to conclusions, like he did with the Iraq war.
Shame you didn’t listen to what he actually said. My guess is you listened to some well selected sound bites on Twitter or Facebook that have tried to push an agenda, or maybe just someone’s opinion on either who haven’t actually heard anything of what he actually said but they posted a picture with it so as per Twitter/Facebook law if it has a picture with it it must be true. Listen to his commons reply in full. Them words again, in full. He condemned it in equal measure to anyone on the opposite side of the commmons, held TM to account on what she has said and done and basically said her response doesn’t go far enough and the investigation doesn’t go back far enough.
This is beautiful the likes that berated me for critising JC for his ineffective response as well as lack of solidarity have now moved the conversation conviently away from his defence of not blaming Russia .
Are you that thick ?
Yes. Really.Really
Are you thick? May has just issued a joint statement with France, Germany and USA basically saying what Corbyn said yesterday you dopey c**t.
Salisbury attack: Joint statement from the leaders of France, Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom - GOV.UK
Ah ,but then the Hyperbole at Westminster cannot pervade through the media and domestic audience. Like I said somewhere else 'Pragmatic'.Are you thick? May has just issued a joint statement with France, Germany and USA basically saying what Corbyn said yesterday you dopey c**t.
Salisbury attack: Joint statement from the leaders of France, Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom - GOV.UK
Yes. Really.
At least you're consistent with your fuckwittery, football or otherwise.JC has not said much today which is a shame , could do with more actions from the man , further his outing as a complete clown and his clown followers, good job he has a sensible rearguard in his party for the sake of labour .
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