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clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,611
BackRoomRummermill said:
The whole point of using this particular Nerve agent by Russia was to let the UK know they can what they want anywhere and at any time , otherwise just shoot the guy and be done with it . Very clever by the Russians as they know JC response would be , they have tried to create division and failed
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You think the Russians did this to prompt a certain response from Corbyn?! Nurse!!
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,612
clint van damme said:
You think the Russians did this to prompt a certain response from Corbyn?! Nurse!!
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That’s the point he has not shown solidarity and shown any credentials , any of JC cronies been on RT lately ?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,613
BackRoomRummermill said:
Saw the speech , made an opinion which is shared by Sky News and the BBC . Not even looked at twitter or Facebook

Are you suggesting everyone’s making it up ?
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Where have sky news or the BBC said they share your opinion? They’ve reported on people like you who have failed to actually grasp what Corbyn has said. He’s said that he wants due process followed to international law and then the response of that due process to go further than the easy route of expelling some diplomats that won’t be missed and freezing some assets that won’t be missed. The PM has tried to shortcut an easy route rather than doing what needs doing and in the manner it needs doing. She’s also let every other nation of the hook in doing anymore than just paying lip service giving empty support.

The Russian government has now committed a radiation and chemical attack on British soil and both times the PM has done little more than wag her finger and call Putin a little scamp with punitive measures that won’t deter him from repeating this action again.

The whole world needs to hold Putin to task on this using international law. Only Corbyn has made this point and others seek to hoodwink people into thinking he’s the soft touch when all along it’s the PM who is letting Russia of the hook. A few sacrificial lambs to the slaughter before sweeping it under the carpet is what the PM is attempting to do and most worryingly people like you allow her to do it in plain sight.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,614
BackRoomRummermill said:
That’s the point he has not shown solidarity and shown any credentials , any of JC cronies been on RT lately ?
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what are you talking about solidarity? He wants to see the evidence. That's how to do things properly. See my comparison with David Kelly and WMDs, you thought the same about him didn't you?

Are you happy that the tories have held onto the 820 thousand pounds worth of donations from Russian oligarchs in the light of what has happened or should return it in the spirit of solidarity?
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,615
clint van damme said:
what are you talking about solidarity? He wants to see the evidence. That's how to do things properly. See my comparison with David Kelly and WMDs, you thought the same about him didn't you?

Are you happy that the tories have held onto the 820 thousand pounds worth of donations from Russian oligarchs in the light of what has happened or should return it in the spirit of solidarity?
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I just cannot fathom why the much of the western world as well as a size of Labour MP’s has supported the UK government stance by squarely blaming Russia yet JC hasn’t ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,616
BackRoomRummermill said:
I just cannot fathom why the much of the western world as well as a size of Labour MP’s has supported the UK government stance by squarely blaming Russia yet JC hasn’t ?
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Let's have a wild guess

'Jerry's a Trot!'

Go on, you know it makes you feel better.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,617
BackRoomRummermill said:
I just cannot fathom why the much of the western world as well as a size of Labour MP’s has supported the UK government stance by squarely blaming Russia yet JC hasn’t ?
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What;s difficult to understand? There is a proper procedure, he wants to see it followed.
He stood in a minority against the Iraq war, I think it's fair to say most people agree with his stance.
What's the harm in waiting for proper process to take its course?
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,618
We're toothless .
The rest is rhetoric.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,619
just in case this has distracted anyone, the tories have just cut free school meals. As a bribe to the DUP to get it passed Northern Ireland children will be exempt.
The same DUP who said they must be treated exactly the same as British citizens on the mainland. Bit of good fortune that this seems to have distracted everyone!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,620
clint van damme said:
What;s difficult to understand? There is a proper procedure, he wants to see it followed.
He stood in a minority against the Iraq war, I think it's fair to say most people agree with his stance.
What's the harm in waiting for proper process to take its course?
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May doesn’t want proper process to take place because that would mean holding Putin and Russia to account in accordance to international law. Much better to hoodwink people like BRR into believing she’s being tough by using empty gestures portrayed as punishment in plain sight and then her cronies hoodwink people like BRR into believing that Corbyn is being soft for not backing the PM in what is in actual fact letting Putin and Russia of the hook. I doubt that the rest of the western worlds leaders will back calls for due process in line with international laws either. They’re all breathing a sigh of relief that May is letting him of the hook so they don’t have to do what needs doing either.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,621
clint van damme said:
What;s difficult to understand? There is a proper procedure, he wants to see it followed.
He stood in a minority against the Iraq war, I think it's fair to say most people agree with his stance.
What's the harm in waiting for proper process to take its course?
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No he hasn’t even denied they did it - he just supports enemies of the State.

Dont try and pretend this anti British wanker has any moral high ground.

As far as morality goes he is in the cess pit.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,622
Grendel said:
No he hasn’t even denied they did it - he just supports enemies of the State.

Dont try and pretend this anti British wanker has any moral high ground.

As far as morality goes he is in the cess pit.
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I like how he is simultaneously the greatest threat to Britain since Hitler and a half granddad-half geography teacher hybrid. Modern Britain-no criticism or scrutiny or you're a traitor.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,623
Grendel said:
No he hasn’t even denied they did it - he just supports enemies of the State.

Dont try and pretend this anti British wanker has any moral high ground.

As far as morality goes he is in the cess pit.
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He really isn't ,he's pragmatic and principled.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,624
wingy said:
He really isn't ,he's pragmatic and principled.
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Yes very. His principals regarding the EU haven’t changed at all with the wonderlust for power.

His support of an organisation who dragged female informers in front of their screaming children out of their homes to shoot them through the head on a deserted beach shows a man of amazing integrity
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,625
Putin is in an election. He will win, but May is falling into his trap. Russian TV is portraying the UK as anti Russian and Putin the innocent victim and protector of Russia. He will win by even more and in the end it will turn out that someone else will have done it. Whoever that is is blissfully unaware that they did it. The UK will look stupid and more isolated coming into Brexit. Trump is staying clear of anything anti Putin and has sacked Tillerson after he said there would be a reaction against Russia. Wouldn’t like to be in May‘s position.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,626
Grendel said:
Yes very. His principals regarding the EU haven’t changed at all with the wonderlust for power.

His support of an organisation who dragged female informers in front of their screaming children out of their homes to shoot them through the head on a deserted beach shows a man of amazing integrity
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you really should be embarrassed typing that when you support boris and theresa.
And are you saying you don't want the due process followed so the truth can be established? You'd rather trail by tabloid?
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,627
Grendel said:
Yes very. His principals regarding the EU haven’t changed at all with the wonderlust for power.

His support of an organisation who dragged female informers in front of their screaming children out of their homes to shoot them through the head on a deserted beach shows a man of amazing integrity
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As does selling arms to Saudi. Poor people in the Yemen. Amazing integrity on our part. I understand it, but politics isn’t just about integrity. Don’t like some of the things done in our name.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,628
Grendel said:
Yes very. His principals regarding the EU haven’t changed at all with the wonderlust for power.

His support of an organisation who dragged female informers in front of their screaming children out of their homes to shoot them through the head on a deserted beach shows a man of amazing integrity
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While Mrs May arms a regime that targets hospitals and schools for the blind for aerial bombing.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,629
martcov said:
Putin is in an election. He will win, but May is falling into his trap. Russian TV is portraying the UK as anti Russian and Putin the innocent victim and protector of Russia. He will win by even more and in the end it will turn out that someone else will have done it. Whoever that is is blissfully unaware that they did it. The UK will look stupid and more isolated coming into Brexit. Trump is staying clear of anything anti Putin and has sacked Tillerson after he said there would be a reaction against Russia. Wouldn’t like to be in May‘s position.
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So you oppose Merkels conviction of Russian guilt and support of Britain?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,630
Brighton Sky Blue said:
While Mrs May arms a regime that targets hospitals and schools for the blind for aerial bombing.
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I see. So that’s wrong but supporting the death of British civilians on their own soil isn’t? And again let’s be adult about this. If those said hospitals and schools were in Israel Mr Corbyn would be offering buy one missile get another free
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,631
Macron has just come out and aligned with Corbyn's response, 'moderates' don't know where to turn.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,632
Grendel said:
I see. So that’s wrong but supporting the death of British civilians on their own soil isn’t? And again let’s be adult about this. If those said hospitals and schools were in Israel Mr Corbyn would be offering buy one missile get another free
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I asked you last time to find me the evidence of him personally supporting that and you struck a blank. We are facilitating war crimes in other parts of the world because, as Amber Rudd put it, 'it's good for the economy'. That is a much more real problem than an old guy in a scratchy jumper.

Let's try again. Find me somewhere Corbyn said 'I want British civilians dead'. Won't hold my breath.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,633
Ian1779 said:
Macron has just come out and aligned with Corbyn's response, 'moderates' don't know where to turn.
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I’m sure he has. Appeasement and cowardice flows through the bloodline.

The two spineless wonders deserve each other.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,634
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I asked you last time to find me the evidence of him personally supporting that and you struck a blank. We are facilitating war crimes in other parts of the world because, as Amber Rudd put it, 'it's good for the economy'. That is a much more real problem than an old guy in a scratchy jumper.

Let's try again. Find me somewhere Corbyn said 'I want British civilians dead'. Won't hold my breath.
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Ok. Let’s start with this.

Did the IRA kill innocent British civilians - yes or no?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,635
Grendel said:
I’m sure he has. Appeasement and cowardice flows through the bloodline.

The two spineless wonders deserve each other.
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what have you got against following proper procedure? Surely if a proper enquiry establishes Russian guilt they have nowhere to hide and the UK can expect unequivocal international support for any sanctions taken?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,636
Grendel said:
Ok. Let’s start with this.

Did the IRA kill innocent British civilians - yes or no?
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Yes.
Did the Israelis?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,637
clint van damme said:
what have you got against following proper procedure? Surely if a proper enquiry establishes Russian guilt they have nowhere to hide and the UK can expect unequivocal international support for any sanctions taken?
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So was proper procedure followed with Livenenkto?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,638
Grendel said:
Ok. Let’s start with this.

Did the IRA kill innocent British civilians - yes or no?
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Yes. Mr Corbyn is also a British civilian. Why does he want himself and his constituents dead?
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,639
clint van damme said:
what have you got against following proper procedure? Surely if a proper enquiry establishes Russian guilt they have nowhere to hide and the UK can expect unequivocal international support for any sanctions taken?
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It may not give him the answer he really wants.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,640
clint van damme said:
Yes.
Did the Israelis?
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Why answer a question with one?

So we establish that they did.

If someone was arrested protesting against a convicted murderer would you agree they supported these actions - yes or no?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,641
Ian1779 said:
It may not give him the answer he really wants.
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Livenentko?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,642
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes. Mr Corbyn is also a British civilian. Why does he want himself and his constituents dead?
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Pathetic. Did they kill innocent civilians yes or no? Let’s bring Patrick Magee into this? What do you think of him? Good or bad guy?
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,643
Grendel said:
Livenentko?
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Oh so you want the truth.... who would have thought.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,644
Grendel said:
Pathetic. Did they kill innocent civilians yes or no? Let’s bring Patrick Magee into this? What do you think of him? Good or bad guy?
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How is it pathetic I said yes. The real question is why would he want his own people and himself dead? Why has he not moved into a safehouse in Cork to plan the next bombing?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 14, 2018
  • #1,645
Grendel said:
So was proper procedure followed with Livenenkto?
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eventually, May initially refused an inquiry because she didn't want to upset the Russians! It concluded that it all liklihood he was killed by the Russians with Putins knowledge.
 
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