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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2018
  • #1,541
SkyblueBazza said:
Not yet - but don't be too surprised if he becomes PM that he continues the practice

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If he goes on TV like Amber Rudd did and argues that the Saudi crimes are OK because it was good for British businesses then fair enough
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 1, 2018
  • #1,542
skybluetony176 said:
There does seem to be a bit of a PR offensive against Corbyn at the moment. Shows the danger of repeating fake news though on social media. That’s two Tory MP’s who’ve said things on social media then had to apologise when it turned out to be bollocks. Backfiring really isn’t it. If anything they’re strengthening Corbyn.
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At the moment? It's been going on ages
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 1, 2018
  • #1,543
Grendel said:
Mogg by the way made the classic mistake. Corbyn voted against the Anglo Irish agreement as he believed it would diminish the chances of the IRA achieving its aims and objectives.

His comrade in arms McDonnell voted against the good Friday agreement.
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Which is his right anyway? The GFA ultimately still gave primacy to the unionists
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 1, 2018
  • #1,544
Grendel said:
Given the school you went to you are utterly clueless about politics.
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Corbyn is hardly showing himself to be the communist the cretins in the media dress him up to be. He's proposed a few fairly light policies like publicly run railways. He isn't proposing a fully state owned and run economy.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,545
Grendel said:
I see through Mr Corbyn and the vile Mr McDonnell. I know the poverty and destitution they round being on a scale you wouldn’t even imagine was possible.

Only the gullible can’t see through this gruesome twosome.
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I would say only the gullible can't see what an absolute mess this government are making of the country. Is Corbyn the answer, maybe not, but he can't be worse.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,546
What time is Theresa due on?
Another week wasted.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,547
fernandopartridge said:
Corbyn is hardly showing himself to be the communist the cretins in the media dress him up to be. He's proposed a few fairly light policies like publicly run railways. He isn't proposing a fully state owned and run economy.
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You know people are scared when the personal attacks and negative campaigns happen.

Shame our government can't be positive and proactive and show what *they* would do to improve matters.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,548
SkyblueBazza said:
Not yet - but don't be too surprised if he becomes PM that he continues the practice

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Unlike Theresa the appeaser he' s already made clear he would stop all arms sales to these people.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,549
Ian1779 said:
Unlike Theresa the appeaser he' s already made clear he would stop all arms sales to these people.
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He also made it clear he’d not stay in a customs union as his ideology would not permit it. When race and morality are involved Mr Corbyn record is pretty shoddy.
 

dutchman

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,550
Ian1779 said:
Unlike Theresa the appeaser he' s already made clear he would stop all arms sales to these people.
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Didn't Tony Blair make the same promise before he was elected? It's amazing what achieving power does for people's sensibilities.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,551
dutchman said:
Didn't Tony Blair make the same promise before he was elected? It's amazing what achieving power does for people's sensibilities.
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If Corbyn did become PM and sticks to his word he'd be the first British PM since the 50s who hasn't cosied up to the Saudi regime.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,552
clint van damme said:
If Corbyn did become PM and sticks to his word he'd be the first British PM since the 50s who hasn't cosied up to the Saudi regime.
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And also the first who cosied up to the IRA
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,553
Grendel said:
And also the first who cosied up to the IRA
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I'm much more concerned by those enabling the spread of militant Islam.

I can't remember when the last IRA bomb was, I can remember all the recent Islamist attacks.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,554
clint van damme said:
I'm much more concerned by those enabling the spread of militant Islam.

I can't remember when the last IRA bomb was, I can remember all the recent Islamist attacks.
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And an ally to the terrorist organisation Hamas
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,555
Grendel said:
And an ally to the terrorist organisation Hamas
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are you not bothered that an ally of the UVF is propping up our government, or that we are mates with the Israeli regime whose military IDF has it roots in a paramilitary group that killed British soldiers?
You must be raging about them though I can't remember seeing you mention either before.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,556
clint van damme said:
are you not bothered that an ally of the UVF is propping up our government, or that we are mates with the Israeli regime whose military IDF has it roots in a paramilitary group that killed British soldiers?
You must be raging about them though I can't remember seeing you mention either before.
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Out of interest could you find one quote from Mr Corbyn condemning any enemy of the West? Also regarding his frequent criticism of the West and it’s involvement in the Middle East can you find any condemnation of the involvement of Russia?

If Mr Corbyn is so interested in preserving national security can you please explain to me why he has voted against seven anti terrorise Bills in Parliament?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,557
Grendel said:
Out of interest could you find one quote from Mr Corbyn condemning any enemy of the West? Also regarding his frequent criticism of the West and it’s involvement in the Middle East can you find any condemnation of the involvement of Russia?

If Mr Corbyn is so interested in preserving national security can you please explain to me why he has voted against seven anti terrorise Bills in Parliament?
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you and the right in general are just flipping from one smear to another.
And the problem you now have is any genuine criticism of Corbyn is getting lost in among all the Corbyn is a spy, Corbyn tripped Devon Loch nonsense.

Corbyn votes against bills, (as someone who proclaims himself a libertarian you shouldn't need to ask why), May and Cameron arm Al Nusra in Syria. As usual you ignore the tories hand in a particular mess to have a go at Corbyn.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,558
clint van damme said:
you and the right in general are just flipping from one smear to another.
And the problem you now have is any genuine criticism of Corbyn is getting lost in among all the Corbyn is a spy, Corbyn tripped Devon Loch nonsense.

Corbyn votes against bills, (as someone who proclaims himself a libertarian you shouldn't need to ask why), May and Cameron arm Al Nusra in Syria. As usual you ignore the tories hand in a particular mess to have a go at Corbyn.
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I don’t view May as an enemy of the state who has openly lauded people who have murdered uk citizens.

Given Corbyn pretty much has sided with every anti west terrorist group and openly heaps praise on regimes who brutalise and torture political openents I do not want him anywhere near our defence policy thanks.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,559
Grendel said:
I don’t view May as an enemy of the state who has openly lauded people who have murdered uk citizens.

Given Corbyn pretty much has sided with every anti west terrorist group and openly heaps praise on regimes who brutalise and torture political openents I do not want him anywhere near our defence policy thanks.
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she's probably one step removed from those that have, in more than one conflict as well. And she's allowing the arms to keep flowing to ISISs main benefactor.
Her austerity program has killed thousands as well.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,560
clint van damme said:
she's probably one step removed from those that have, in more than one conflict as well. And she's allowing the arms to keep flowing to ISISs main benefactor.
Her austerity program has killed thousands as well.
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The problem you have is you are at the same defending a man who openly applauded the death of British soldiers, imminent civilians and turns a blind eye to torture and brutality - I can assure you if these people had the communist flag Mr Corbyn would be the first to praise them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,561
Grendel said:
The problem you have is you are at the same defending a man who openly applauded the death of British soldiers, imminent civilians and turns a blind eye to torture and brutality - I can assure you if these people had the communist flag Mr Corbyn would be the first to praise them.
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and I can't take any right wing slur against him seriously. That's the problem the right now have. They've tried that much bullshit that people aren't believing anything they say.
And the more I read about the governments decision not to hold a Leverson 2 inquiry the more I'm convinced that this is nothing to do with Brexit, or the economy or national security but about Corbyns insistence that he will allow a second enquiry.
Dacres, Murdoch and cronies have given their tory puppets strict instructions to smear the man.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 2, 2018
  • #1,562
Well I've been away from the media today and we're 12minutes into the 5 o'clock news and Theresa hasn't been on yet.
There will a cut in the license fee again if they're not careful.
They may I find myself surprised to say have a point 15mins now
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 3, 2018
  • #1,563
Grendel said:
The problem you have is you are at the same defending a man who openly applauded the death of British soldiers, imminent civilians and turns a blind eye to torture and brutality - I can assure you if these people had the communist flag Mr Corbyn would be the first to praise them.
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Find me the clip of him applauding it and I'll vote Tory
 
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dutchman

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  • Mar 3, 2018
  • #1,564
Grendel said:
Out of interest could you find one quote from Mr Corbyn condemning any enemy of the West?
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And who would they be? (In your opinion)
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #1,565
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If he goes on TV like Amber Rudd did and argues that the Saudi crimes are OK because it was good for British businesses then fair enough
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Well if he changes it - he will be doing something very significant, & something that no other PM has done...Labour or Tory

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #1,566
Ian1779 said:
Unlike Theresa the appeaser he' s already made clear he would stop all arms sales to these people.
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That's just words. Actions speak louder - & every single PM wriggles their way out of a significant proportion of words they say before they're elected. Happens in every country too

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #1,567
SkyblueBazza said:
Well if he changes it - he will be doing something very significant, & something that no other PM has done...Labour or Tory

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Everything is unprecedented until it happens.
 

dancers lance

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  • Mar 6, 2018
  • #1,568
I've decided they are all full of shit, so I'm now basing my political choices solely on personal attire. May looks like someone has put a breeze block in a pair of kitten heals and Corbyn looks like the offspring of Frank Spencer and a Geography teacher, so I know which way I will be voting.....
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,569
SkyblueBazza said:
That's just words. Actions speak louder - & every single PM wriggles their way out of a significant proportion of words they say before they're elected. Happens in every country too

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Let's see how this one plays out.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,570
Ian1779 said:
Let's see how this one plays out.
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Personally I like his strongly principled approach, & many of his principles...but I suspect the Tories will cost everything out & be able to beautifully demonstrate the cost of making such principles a reality & he will never be PM

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,571
SkyblueBazza said:
I suspect the Tories will cost everything out
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lol
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,572
SkyblueBazza said:
Personally I like his strongly principled approach, & many of his principles...but I suspect the Tories will cost everything out & be able to beautifully demonstrate the cost of making such principles a reality & he will never be PM

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they didn't even cost their last manifesto.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 7, 2018
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clint van damme said:
they didn't even cost their last manifesto.
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They didn't need to...they just cost out Labour promises & scare the shit out of everyone with them

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clint van damme

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,574
SkyblueBazza said:
They didn't need to...they just cost out Labour promises & scare the shit out of everyone with them

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that worked out well, they're now hanging by a thread propped up by a bunch of creationists who took them for a billion pound bung, I say them but it was our money.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 7, 2018
  • #1,575
SkyblueBazza said:
They didn't need to...they just cost out Labour promises & scare the shit out of everyone with them

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I would suggest that their days of terrifying everyone with their sensational print media machine are numbered.
 
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